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Isiah Whitehead signs with an agent and is off to NBA....

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Hope for his sake he was promised to be selected as a 1st rounder as he was marginal 1st round / 2nd round pick by many accounts several days ago........
 
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I think he'll get drafted but my guess is High 2nd not first.

He'll make a team though----kid can play.
 
He's a solid player. Anyone know why he is only grade as a mid second pick. He's a great shooter with long range and has enough size to play solid d and get his shot off. What am I missing?
 
He's a solid player. Anyone know why he is only grade as a mid second pick. He's a great shooter with long range and has enough size to play solid d and get his shot off. What am I missing?

Knock is not an explosive enough athlete (not my opinion just what I've heard)

This is what I meant when Corey was looking at the NBA--it's good to look I guess but it is close to impossible to make the NBA. Hell Whitehead is an amazing talent. I'm thrilled he's leaving because he is that good and his leaving is crushing to SHOE (and to SHOE fans, yes it is--you guys were easy sweet 16 picks for next year, now making the Dance is going to be a challenge). Yet he's not going in the 1st round, and 2nd round picks have a lot of work to do to stay in the league for more than cup of coffee.

It's great to have ambitions but unless you are a Kentucky-like 1 and done type of player, the NBA should not be something that is expected by any player. Making the NBA is far more challenging than making the NFL.
 
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He's a solid player. Anyone know why he is only grade as a mid second pick. He's a great shooter with long range and has enough size to play solid d and get his shot off. What am I missing?

He took a big step forward this past season but still has work to do to develop the kind of consistency that will make him a capable NBA level player.

I really think the young man would have benefitted a lot by coming back to SHU for another year. But if it's time to go it's time to go.
 
Heard he played really well in that pre-draft evaluation camp, so perhaps he pushed himself into the first round. No link, saw it on tv. One of the color guys who was at the camp said it... perhaps Bilas.
 
Knock is not an explosive enough athlete (not my opinion just what I've heard)

I'm thrilled he's leaving because he is that good and his leaving is crushing to SHOE (and to SHOE fans, yes it is--you guys were easy sweet 16 picks for next year, now making the Dance is going to be a challenge). Yet he's not going in the 1st round, and 2nd round picks have a lot of work to do to stay in the league for more than cup of coffee.

Petty and childish -- great characteristics for someone, ostensibly over 40 years of age, to have. I wouldn't recommend spending your lunch money betting that RU MBB will beat Seton Hall any time soon.
 
Petty and childish -- great characteristics for someone, ostensibly over 40 years of age, to have. I wouldn't recommend spending your lunch money betting that RU MBB will beat Seton Hall any time soon.

Whats childish? That I can't stand SHOE's sport teams? Boo fracking hoo. Why should I want SHOE to win?

Yes I hope you lose. Sorry!
 
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Some people think I am crazy, but I think Isaiah's soph year was the best I have ever seen a SHU kid play. He was great. Clearly imo superior to Dunn in the BE schedule. Other than the lack of explosiveness which is mentioned accurately above, I don't know what he lacks. (He could tighten up his handle.) He shot threes at around 42% in the BE, made some passes you wouldn't believe, played D great. In our opening BET game, he didn't play great. Then, in the last 90 seconds, he got a critical rebound, was fouled and made the shots, then he blocked the CU PG's shot in the paint and recovered it, got fouled and hit the shots, and for good measure, he got the next rebound too...whatever it takes. He was a Dean's List student too. And though so many blamed him (unfairly) for our problems last year, he kept his mouth shut, played through an average OOC, then exploded in the BE season.

But, his leaving though painful, is so far from crushing. We return four solid starters, and another F good enough to start. We lose Isaiah and Gordon. The rest of the returnees that play will be no more than Jrs this year. We bring in some good players and have a better kid on tap for the next season.
 
Some people think I am crazy, but I think Isaiah's soph year was the best I have ever seen a SHU kid play. .

I think you're right especially the 2nd half of the year. I saw someone compare him to Barrett today. I think he was far better than Barrett IMHO.

You guys lost your starting back court, including the guy who was likely going to be the BE POY. Going to be pretty tough to replace.
 
You Seton Hall people feeling disrespected--this is the Rutgers basketball board. Your own board displays far more animus towards Rutgers (remember all those Little Red Schoolhouse references) than we do towards SHOE. There are a few SHU posters that are here regularly, and add to the discussion, but to the soreheads--get lost.
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Whitehead was outstanding n Big East games this past season. I wish him luck. I am glad that he is leaving so we do not have to play against him anymore. He was 21 in March so I think he made a good decision.
 
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Some people think I am crazy, but I think Isaiah's soph year was the best I have ever seen a SHU kid play. He was great. Clearly imo superior to Dunn in the BE schedule. Other than the lack of explosiveness which is mentioned accurately above, I don't know what he lacks. (He could tighten up his handle.) He shot threes at around 42% in the BE, made some passes you wouldn't believe, played D great. In our opening BET game, he didn't play great. Then, in the last 90 seconds, he got a critical rebound, was fouled and made the shots, then he blocked the CU PG's shot in the paint and recovered it, got fouled and hit the shots, and for good measure, he got the next rebound too...whatever it takes. He was a Dean's List student too. And though so many blamed him (unfairly) for our problems last year, he kept his mouth shut, played through an average OOC, then exploded in the BE season.

But, his leaving though painful, is so far from crushing. We return four solid starters, and another F good enough to start. We lose Isaiah and Gordon. The rest of the returnees that play will be no more than Jrs this year. We bring in some good players and have a better kid on tap for the next season.

You would know. I thought he got better and better as the season went on and was obviously phenomenal in the BET. It was unfortunate to see him,(and the whole team really) end on such a low note in the dance.

You'll definitely have a good team this year without him. How good is difficult to assess right now though. Whitehead was a difference maker in most of the big wins. You need a new go-to guy to emerge.
 
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If you are watching the NBA playoffs, a lot of these playoff teams can use a Whitehead type of player that can give you 14-19 minutes a night and force the opponent to guard them and respect their shot. I don't believe that he'll fall into the 2nd round, too many teams are starved for offense off the dribble ....if Kyle Anderson got drafted late 1st round by the Spurs and he still cannot move at a speed that can help a team, I don't see any reason why Whitehead cannot help a Toronto/Cleveland/Boston or Miami type of playoff team.

Ironically, Villanova's Josh Hart went back to school and I think he a bonafide 10-12 year NBA player.....strange times indeed because I would have drafted Hart ahead of Whitehead based on his ability to defend and adapt to any system.
 
Whitehead will be a first round talent. Explosive to the hole. If he gets into an organization with good vets/coaching/system he'll be a stud at the next level.
 
I'm not quite sure where the lack of explosiveness is coming from., but if that's the word I'll take it. That being said, look at the back end of the first round for last years draft. I think Whitehead is better and can be a better NBA player than those guys. For example, Tyus Jones was a first round last year. He had a fantastic season his freshman year, but he does not have the measurables that Whitehead has. If I was drafting in the late first round, I would definitely go after a 6 foot 5 guard who can shoot from way behind the arc and plays tough defense. Personally, I think teams get caught up with the name on the front of the college uniform sometimes.
 
Gotta give credit to SHU and Willard,too. Willard takes people and gives them roles. For instance, made Whitehead play point. Now hes telling Carrington, go play pointguard. Point guard is a great position.Jordan told mack, play point or the next level is going to be tough to break. Mike Williams would probablu be better transitioning to point,too. Next level is too big.

I do not hold anything against SHU. I like seeing a high level of basketball be played. Desi Rod,Carrington,Delgado are all potential big league players if they keep working.
 
My biggest knock on Whitehead is understanding what a good shot is and what isn't.

NBA body-----athletic----plays hard----all that stuff is there.
 
My biggest knock on Whitehead is understanding what a good shot is and what isn't.

NBA body-----athletic----plays hard----all that stuff is there.

I hear you, but at this point in the NBA, he is the majority when it comes t knowing that. A lot of people take horrible shots in the nba, but if they go in, is it still a horrible shot?Lol. Curry takes horrible shots.
 
Not for him they aren't----you and I yes but no for him

That is exactly my point,lol. The majority of Curry shots are not shots a hs coach would teach yoou to t ake, but they go in. Whitehead is surrounded by people in the nba who take bad shots. He fits right in.
 
Some people think I am crazy, but I think Isaiah's soph year was the best I have ever seen a SHU kid play. He was great. Clearly imo superior to Dunn in the BE schedule. Other than the lack of explosiveness which is mentioned accurately above, I don't know what he lacks. (He could tighten up his handle.) He shot threes at around 42% in the BE, made some passes you wouldn't believe, played D great. In our opening BET game, he didn't play great. Then, in the last 90 seconds, he got a critical rebound, was fouled and made the shots, then he blocked the CU PG's shot in the paint and recovered it, got fouled and hit the shots, and for good measure, he got the next rebound too...whatever it takes. He was a Dean's List student too. And though so many blamed him (unfairly) for our problems last year, he kept his mouth shut, played through an average OOC, then exploded in the BE season.

But, his leaving though painful, is so far from crushing. We return four solid starters, and another F good enough to start. We lose Isaiah and Gordon. The rest of the returnees that play will be no more than Jrs this year. We bring in some good players and have a better kid on tap for the next season.[/QUOT
Let's not turn this into another pissing contest with Seton Hall, They lost a great player Rutgers would have loved to have. Right now, The Hall is a better program. Good luck to them. And goodluck to Whitehead.


Good for Whitehead. Let's not allow this to become another pissing contest. Seton Hall has a stronger program than Rutgers right now. Nothing lasts forever.
 
You Seton Hall people feeling disrespected--this is the Rutgers basketball board. Your own board displays far more animus towards Rutgers (remember all those Little Red Schoolhouse references) than we do towards SHOE. There are a few SHU posters that are here regularly, and add to the discussion, but to the soreheads--get lost.TL

Alas, the good old days. Do you realize that the Little Red Schoolhouse references occurred more than 10 years ago, along with the South Orange Community College references? I guess we're getting old.
 
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