Jeremiah Williams to visit
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Yes, I believe that is the case. I don't think he's a grad transfer and it's his second transfer, but he didn't play at all last year due to an achilles injury
Plus probably won’t be ready to start the season because of the Achilles tear. Also needs to be distanced from the Iowa State gambling scandal (why the UI AD forced the coaches to cut him loose).
If he can clear all the hoops (no pun intended), he’s a really solid player. Not a really good shooter but he can defend and facilitate.
Some of the items being thrown around and fans buy as gospel, is somewhat laughable OR shows how inept people are to believe the smoke screens
A) Brad Underwood and Illinois coaches are not dumb recruiters. They know good basketball players when they see it. What I find somewhat ironic, is that Illinois, typically one of the Top 5 most talented rosters of the B1G, since Lou Henson was coach, suddenly has a conscience, when it comes to some sort of character concerns.
This is the same Illinois program that recruited Andre Curbelo, knowing full well he was a character risk from Day 1, Game 1, but suddenly Jeremiah Williams, a Chicago kid, who was at Iowa State for less than 1 year, is a character risk??? LMAO......any reasonably good research, would show that the gambling allegations tossed around at the Iowa and Iowa State AND other Iowa colleges and universities, was primarily involving other sports. Williams played ZERO games at Iowa State after getting injured last summer/fall.
B) Illinois just wanted to take another available guard that became available AFTER Williams visited and committed. Which Underwood and Illinois has every right to do. BUT, Illinois has to tread very lightly here, Jeremiah Williams is a Chicago legacy kid....and Illinois fans know full well, that they can't play games around a Chicago school kid....which leads to the next crucial point....for RU fans, maybe this matters or it doesn't BUT it is enormous from my perspective short and long term.
C) Simeon HS in Chicago......if you are a RU basketball fan, you probably are like "so what"????
Simeon HS, in terms of true HS basketball, is probably a Top 3 HS in all of the USA. It is not the BS created factories that tried to duplicate what Oak Hill Academy in VA, did 30 to 40 years ago.
If you believe in places like Monteverde or places in Florida like IMG Academy that just buy kids, that's fine, but there's no true value recruiting from a factory, unless you know that player BEFORE they get there.
In terms of Simeon HS in Chicago, it has a legendary name and Illinois HAS to use some sort of Public Relations spin, to explain away taking Williams, then getting him to commit, then needing some reason for dropping him.
Even if Williams was injured and wasn't healthy, does anyone for 1 minute believe that Illinois didn't know his injury situation....OR that they didn't know the Iowa related gambling rumors surrounding all of the Iowa programs??? These coaches are paid millions of dollars to know. Illinois knows pretty much every Chicago area kid.
If you are RU AND you want to recruit the Midwest AND you get a kid from Simeon HS in the process, you absolutely take Jeremiah Williams and run.
Simeon is THAT valuable of an inroads that RU could never accomplish without being in the B1G....if Williams doesn't pan out as a 30 MPG starter, so what, I personally could care less.....He's probably capable of playing 15 to 25 MPG and being able to defend, rebound and playmake.
RU could have two Illinois kids on its roster in 2024-25, with Jeremiah Williams AND Top 100 recruit, Lathan Sommerville. Sommerville was placed at schools in ATL like the Skills Academy, but he is a Illinois resident or HS athlete, in terms of his true roots.
I believe Sommerville and his family are from Peoria Illinois, when Sommervilles Dad played at Bradley University. So when the B1G tournament or other games get played at United Center, RU can say they have 2 kids out of their 13 from the state. They now have a reason to stop by Simeon to say hello and not getting a strange look like "who are you and why are you here"....???
This is a long term huge upside item. Simeon produces CBB players year in and year out. Some of the legendary names are Derrick Rose and further back, Nick Anderson, from the Flying Illini Final Four team in 1989.
If Williams doesn't have to sit out, it's an immediate take IMO.....even if he somehow had to sit out, he's still a take in my opinion.
There's ZERO downside to Jeremiah Williams as a Simeon HS product, short term, long term, or in any way, from a RU hoops perspective. Recruiting the Midwest, New England Prep school circuits, down into Georgia or Florida along with tristate area in our backyard, just expands the brand of RU. 100% a take folks.....
A) Brad Underwood and Illinois coaches are not dumb recruiters. They know good basketball players when they see it. What I find somewhat ironic, is that Illinois, typically one of the Top 5 most talented rosters of the B1G, since Lou Henson was coach, suddenly has a conscience, when it comes to some sort of character concerns.
This is the same Illinois program that recruited Andre Curbelo, knowing full well he was a character risk from Day 1, Game 1, but suddenly Jeremiah Williams, a Chicago kid, who was at Iowa State for less than 1 year, is a character risk??? LMAO......any reasonably good research, would show that the gambling allegations tossed around at the Iowa and Iowa State AND other Iowa colleges and universities, was primarily involving other sports. Williams played ZERO games at Iowa State after getting injured last summer/fall.
B) Illinois just wanted to take another available guard that became available AFTER Williams visited and committed. Which Underwood and Illinois has every right to do. BUT, Illinois has to tread very lightly here, Jeremiah Williams is a Chicago legacy kid....and Illinois fans know full well, that they can't play games around a Chicago school kid....which leads to the next crucial point....for RU fans, maybe this matters or it doesn't BUT it is enormous from my perspective short and long term.
C) Simeon HS in Chicago......if you are a RU basketball fan, you probably are like "so what"????
Simeon HS, in terms of true HS basketball, is probably a Top 3 HS in all of the USA. It is not the BS created factories that tried to duplicate what Oak Hill Academy in VA, did 30 to 40 years ago.
If you believe in places like Monteverde or places in Florida like IMG Academy that just buy kids, that's fine, but there's no true value recruiting from a factory, unless you know that player BEFORE they get there.
In terms of Simeon HS in Chicago, it has a legendary name and Illinois HAS to use some sort of Public Relations spin, to explain away taking Williams, then getting him to commit, then needing some reason for dropping him.
Even if Williams was injured and wasn't healthy, does anyone for 1 minute believe that Illinois didn't know his injury situation....OR that they didn't know the Iowa related gambling rumors surrounding all of the Iowa programs??? These coaches are paid millions of dollars to know. Illinois knows pretty much every Chicago area kid.
If you are RU AND you want to recruit the Midwest AND you get a kid from Simeon HS in the process, you absolutely take Jeremiah Williams and run.
Simeon is THAT valuable of an inroads that RU could never accomplish without being in the B1G....if Williams doesn't pan out as a 30 MPG starter, so what, I personally could care less.....He's probably capable of playing 15 to 25 MPG and being able to defend, rebound and playmake.
RU could have two Illinois kids on its roster in 2024-25, with Jeremiah Williams AND Top 100 recruit, Lathan Sommerville. Sommerville was placed at schools in ATL like the Skills Academy, but he is a Illinois resident or HS athlete, in terms of his true roots.
I believe Sommerville and his family are from Peoria Illinois, when Sommervilles Dad played at Bradley University. So when the B1G tournament or other games get played at United Center, RU can say they have 2 kids out of their 13 from the state. They now have a reason to stop by Simeon to say hello and not getting a strange look like "who are you and why are you here"....???
This is a long term huge upside item. Simeon produces CBB players year in and year out. Some of the legendary names are Derrick Rose and further back, Nick Anderson, from the Flying Illini Final Four team in 1989.
If Williams doesn't have to sit out, it's an immediate take IMO.....even if he somehow had to sit out, he's still a take in my opinion.
There's ZERO downside to Jeremiah Williams as a Simeon HS product, short term, long term, or in any way, from a RU hoops perspective. Recruiting the Midwest, New England Prep school circuits, down into Georgia or Florida along with tristate area in our backyard, just expands the brand of RU. 100% a take folks.....
Theres a thread on that, but you need to wade through hundreds of posts on scoring of former RU players to find the answer, which appears to be yes.
Not sure if it was mentioned already, but not only did Jeremiah miss the entire '22-'23 season at Iowa State with an achilles injury, he also missed the end of the '21-'22 season at Temple with a shoulder injury that required surgery. So we've yet to see him in a game after he's recuperated from either one of the injuries. I guess he'll work out for the coaches though if he's able to.
(He injured the shoulder on 2/7/22 at South Florida and then missed 7 of Temple's last 8 games, including their final game in the conference tournament, and then had shoulder surgery after the season. He was expected to make a full recovery, so hopefully he did.)
(He injured the shoulder on 2/7/22 at South Florida and then missed 7 of Temple's last 8 games, including their final game in the conference tournament, and then had shoulder surgery after the season. He was expected to make a full recovery, so hopefully he did.)
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