Jim Delany says B1G winner should not be in Playoffs
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You're the idiot. For some unknown reason the B1G once again gave you the easiest crossover schedule. Then once again you scheduled a light OOC for the umpteenth time.
Blame your AD, blame your coach or blame the B1Gschedule makers for your easy schedule. But the playoff committee has stated you schedule lightly you'll be penalized for it. Welcome to finally paying for your easy scheduling. Don't bitch it's helped you out the past 5yrs.
Of course he never said it. Delany would be perfectly happy if OSU, Mich, PSU and Wisconsin all make it (I'm just saying).
What he doesn't want, and what none of us should want, is a BIG rep getting smoked.
End the 4 team playoff if winning your conference doesn't matter.
Make it 8 teams, the P-5 conference champions , one non p-5 conference champ
and 2 at large based on rankings
I'm not a big fan of the Nits but if they beat the Badgers, they should jump over Ohio St and Michigan where the playoff invites are concerned .
If Wisconsin takes the B1G Title , same scenario
Make it 8 teams, the P-5 conference champions , one non p-5 conference champ
and 2 at large based on rankings
I'm not a big fan of the Nits but if they beat the Badgers, they should jump over Ohio St and Michigan where the playoff invites are concerned .
If Wisconsin takes the B1G Title , same scenario
... or just get rid of the playoffs, forget the BCS, play the bowl games as aligned, then pick up two teams from the bowl champions and let them play one final title game.
If every Conference Champ made the playoffs this weekend would be phenomenal. 20 teams would still be alive.
B1G Conference Play:
Penn State 8-1
Michigan 7-2
Wisconsin 7-2
Head-To-Head Matchups:
Michigan beat Wisconsin by 7 points
Michigan beat Penn State by 39 points
Penn State and Wisconsin haven't played yet
Michigan 2-0
Wisconsin 0-1
Penn State 0-1
Conference Points Scored:
Michigan 492
Penn State 439
Wisconsin 340
Conference Points Given Up:
Michigan 150
Wisconsin 164
Penn State 273
Conference Point Differential:
Michigan +342
Wisconsin +176
Penn State +166
Best OOC Win:
Michigan beat Colorado by 17 points
Worst OOC Loss:
Pittsburgh beat Penn State by 3 points
Michigan is much closer to Washington than
Wisconsin or Penn State is to Michigan.
According to teamrankings.com, the B1G plays some of the strongest schedules in the country(see link below).
1 Ohio State
2 Michigan
3 Alabama
4 LSU
5 Wisconsin
https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/schedule-strength-by-other
Schedule Strength of Committee Top 10:
01 Alabama 3rd strongest schedule
02 Ohio State 1st strongest schedule
03 Clemson 9th strongest schedule
04 Washington 17th strongest schedule
05 Michigan 2nd strongest schedule
06 Wisconsin 5th strongest schedule
07 Penn State 14th strongest schedule
08 Colorado 11th strongest schedule
09 Oklahoma 10th strongest schedule
10 Oklahoma State 49th strongest schedule
Wow, PSUPOWER, I'm impressed by the objective analysis, well done!
OSU beat Wisky 59-0 in the B1G championship game. You guys beat Wisky 59-0, and we'll talk. Otherwise, UM is rightfully ahead of you.
And how do you decide the last 2 teams to play one final title game? Rankings? Just more subjectivity.
128 teams is way too many to compete at the same level. But, until those 128 teams are divided up into more competitive groups, a playoff system must be in place to give all 128 of those teams a chance at the national title.
Since the 10 FBS Conferences are not equal, it would be impractical to base the entire FBS playoff field solely on conference winners.
If two or three of the best teams in the country appear to be from the same conference or division, all of those great teams are more deserving of a playoff spot than many conference champions that are clearly not top 10 teams.
14-team conferences like the ACC & SEC only play 8-game conference slates, where some of their best teams don't always play each other. Occasionally, there are FBS independents that are great teams. Frequently, 14-team conferences like the ACC, B1G & SEC have two teams that are much better than any Group of 5 team or Big 12 team, where only 10 teams reside despite the name Big 12.
Let's get the best 8 teams in a playoff to decide the national champion on the field. Some years there are 4 great teams. Other years there are 5 great teams. Some years there are 6 great teams. And other years there are 7 great teams.
With an 8-team playoff system that gives teams extra credit for winning their conference beyond their record and overall Strength Of Schedule, a great team can earn a true national championship on the field by winning 3 playoff games. This would be much better than the 4-team playoff system that we have now.
I have always been in favor of an 8 team playoff. Much less likely to leave out a deserving team, plus it would give a non Power 5 team a chance. For example, if Houston had won all their AAC games, they would have gone undefeated and would have deserved a seat at the table based on their convincing wins vs Oklahoma and Louisville.
The real disconnect today with the conference playoffs vs. the Championship playoffs is that the conference championship qualifiers are based on very objective pre-established rules, while the committee picks the playoff teams based on subjective criteria that include things such as strength of schedule and OOC outcomes.
The real disconnect today with the conference playoffs vs. the Championship playoffs is that the conference championship qualifiers are based on very objective pre-established rules, while the committee picks the playoff teams based on subjective criteria that include things such as strength of schedule and OOC outcomes.
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>#29 Penn St.-Big Ten<
>#7 Rutgers Big Ten<
http://stats.ncaa.org/rankings/change_sport_year_div
>#29 Penn St.-Big Ten<
>#7 Rutgers Big Ten<
http://stats.ncaa.org/rankings/change_sport_year_div
Or just get rid of the final game, play 20 bowls, and that's it. The season is too long as it is. All of this is about cheap, live TV programming.
Given what they did against Michigan and Wisconsin to end the year, and given what they did against Alabama and Oregon, it looks like the committee used the proper judgment putting who they thought was the best team in the playoff. Guess what? They were right.
People have selective memory when it comes to that playoff scenario. Ohio State probably wouldn't have been in simply beating Wisconsin in a squeaker. Yes, the committee cited the 13th data point, but they did so also adding that Ohio State looked impressive. A one-point win over Wisconsin? Baylor probably gets in. It wasn't just the conference championship. It was a combination of eye test, conference championship and lack of an impressive resume for Baylor/TCU to separate itself from that Ohio State team.
Honestly I feel like the 2014 example justifies why the committee should and would put this Ohio State team in. It's one of the four best teams, a fact no one disputes, and that's the purpose of the committee according to its own protocol. The conference title for Ohio State in 2014 was only one of several reasons they cited for them.
Guy is clueless. Could not even acknowledge the name of the team that won.
Open Mouth insert foot.
I always thought this was the way to go, but there's no turning back now.
