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Joe Nolan on Third Down is Worse than the Train Whistle

Left early, not because of the score, but because of the incessant noise. I have stayed to the bitter end of 70 point loses. Decided that I won’t renew next year and told them so on the game experience survey.
 
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Left early, not because of the score, but because of the incessant noise. I have stayed to the bitter end of 70 point loses. Decided that I won’t renew next year and told them so on the game experience survey.
Where can I find a game experience survey? I would like the athletic department to know my thoughts of the Wisconsin game experience.

Doubt anyone in athletic department will read what I share and probably has as much impact as Pat's RAC renovation survey, but I'd to fill it in anyway.
 
Left early, not because of the score, but because of the incessant noise. I have stayed to the bitter end of 70 point loses. Decided that I won’t renew next year and told them so on the game experience survey.
Apparently there has been thousands of complaints about this and it seem like Rutgers does not care as they have doubled down on the noise with the Horn, Music, and buffoon on the mic. And this is after SOME people were saying that the noise has gotten tolerable after the first two games this year.
 
They need to get rid of the Penn State guy pronto:

• The music cutups suck
• We dont even do the Metallica third down Bell anymore on half the downs
• All the big downs are a mix of 5 songs its awful

And for the love of effing god can we pleast figure out the R-U chant and how to teach the student section to do it right. Band? Cheerleaders?

Yes nitpicky but it’s what makes everything so great about CFB
 
They need to get rid of the Penn State guy pronto:

• The music cutups suck
• We dont even do the Metallica third down Bell anymore on half the downs
• All the big downs are a mix of 5 songs its awful

And for the love of effing god can we pleast figure out the R-U chant and how to teach the student section to do it right. Band? Cheerleaders?

Yes nitpicky but it’s what makes everything so great about CFB
Someone is going to have a seizure or freak out with all of this going on in 10 seconds.
 
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I honestly don't understand what's so hard about this. Why are the basics and non-negotiables seemingly so out of reach here?
  • The R...U... chant - When done right, is goosebump inducing. This hasn't been fixed since the students were moved in '09.
  • For Whom the Bell Tolls on 3rd down - A tradition dating back 20+ years across several regimes, is being phased out.
  • The Bells Must Ring - Nobody knows what version we'll get and when it'll be played. Each year it changes.
  • Joe Nolan on PA - Used to be well done. Simple and succinct. "It is 3rd down...AND SEVEN." Not drawn out over 11 seconds.
The music/in-game stuff is going to change year to year - as it should. But can we not uphold some semblance of tradition? I flew up for the Washington game and was wowed by the game production - best I've seen in 20+ years of going to games. What followed this past Saturday was a reversion to the usual sideshow. At least I didn't hear Click Click Boom more than once. (I counted 18x vs. Maryland in '21)
 
I honestly don't understand what's so hard about this. Why are the basics and non-negotiables seemingly so out of reach here?
  • The R...U... chant - When done right, is goosebump inducing. This hasn't been fixed since the students were moved in '09.
  • For Whom the Bell Tolls on 3rd down - A tradition dating back 20+ years across several regimes, is being phased out.
  • The Bells Must Ring - Nobody knows what version we'll get and when it'll be played. Each year it changes.
  • Joe Nolan on PA - Used to be well done. Simple and succinct. "It is 3rd down...AND SEVEN." Not drawn out over 11 seconds.
The music/in-game stuff is going to change year to year - as it should. But can we not uphold some semblance of tradition? I flew up for the Washington game and was wowed by the game production - best I've seen in 20+ years of going to games. What followed this past Saturday was a reversion to the usual sideshow. At least I didn't hear Click Click Boom more than once. (I counted 18x vs. Maryland in '21)
Fixing it isn't hard. It is easy in an athletic department having smart leadership and capable, empowered managers. Clearly, the Rutgers athletic department has lacked both for years.

Does the athletic department want to know what the fans think? Have a junior staffer - maybe even a student intern - read TKR and send a fan experience report to the athletic director 2 days after each football and basketball game.

Let's imagine your bullet points were part of the report that landed on the ADs desk this morning.
  • AD meets with head of spirit team. AD says we need to revive the RU chant. They watch videos of what it once was. AD instructs spirit team coach to come up with a plan and agrees to allocate money for R and U signs for the cheerleaders to hold up to stimulate the chant.
  • AD tells his game day guy to end the horn and replace with For Whom the Bell Tolls. AD calls Joe and says were changing the 3rd down routine. Quick "3rd and 7" from Joe, then the bells.
Simple enough but beyond the capability of the Rutgers athletic department I'm afraid.
 
Filled out the survey, lambasted Joe Nolan and the overall third down sound production.
 
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This place has always had its share of whine, but at the moment it's just a total b*tchfest. You guys must be a total disaster on game day.
 
I honestly don't understand what's so hard about this. Why are the basics and non-negotiables seemingly so out of reach here?
  • The R...U... chant - When done right, is goosebump inducing. This hasn't been fixed since the students were moved in '09.
  • For Whom the Bell Tolls on 3rd down - A tradition dating back 20+ years across several regimes, is being phased out.
  • The Bells Must Ring - Nobody knows what version we'll get and when it'll be played. Each year it changes.
  • Joe Nolan on PA - Used to be well done. Simple and succinct. "It is 3rd down...AND SEVEN." Not drawn out over 11 seconds.
The music/in-game stuff is going to change year to year - as it should. But can we not uphold some semblance of tradition? I flew up for the Washington game and was wowed by the game production - best I've seen in 20+ years of going to games. What followed this past Saturday was a reversion to the usual sideshow. At least I didn't hear Click Click Boom more than once. (I counted 18x vs. Maryland in '21)
To this point - move the students back to the corner where the visitors are. More cohesion with the rest of the stadium.

Another nitpick - why on earth are we getting rid of Glory Days blaring over the loudspeakers immediately after we win. Was very excited for Glory Days to be played after beating washington and they played some nonsense garbage.

These are little things that make a huge difference. The Penn State guy is overdoing it and is not good. Shouldve been fired after he accidently played the Lion Roar a few years ago.

Schools like Nebraska, VaTech, Wisconsin, Michigan….

They have traditions and they dont F with it. We have traditions that we build for 20 years+ and it gets blown up
 
This place has always had its share of whine, but at the moment it's just a total b*tchfest. You guys must be a total disaster on game day.
You don't think the Joe Nolan and game day production complaints are valid? From where I sit in the club, the speakers are apparently right in line with my ears. His 3rd down call is (1) annoying (2) useless (3) breaks up an element the crowd enjoys- making noise and the Metallica For Whom the Bell Tolls.

Don't see any of this as being over the top. Just keep let them destroying everything about our game day traditions and smile and say all is well is your approach?
 
You don't think the Joe Nolan and game day production complaints are valid? From where I sit in the club, the speakers are apparently right in line with my ears. His 3rd down call is (1) annoying (2) useless (3) breaks up an element the crowd enjoys- making noise and the Metallica For Whom the Bell Tolls.

Part of what I said in my survey response:

The third down noise generation HAS to be changed. The idea is to get the crowd involved so that the noise generated by the crowd is constant up to the snap. Instead, you have Joe Nolan with his: "IIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTSSSSSSSSSSSS TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD DDDDDDDDDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNNNNN" combined with blaring music, sometimes the train horn, sometimes some other sound effects mixed in, then BAM. Cut out 15-20 seconds before the snap and there's no crowd noise.
 
It's not really something that has occupied my thoughts, which is a garbled way of saying that it doesn't really matter to me.
 
It's not really something that has occupied my thoughts, which is a garbled way of saying that it doesn't really matter to me.
Fair enough. Different fans have different things that matter to them. As a fairly even-keeled kind of fan, my head was ready to explode halfway through the second quarter with Nolan. Even my wife, who is very easy going said he was annoying AF. She busted out laughing as we were walking out past the practice field and Nolan did his schtick--she said something like, he is getting one last one in for you to enjoy.
 
To this point - move the students back to the corner where the visitors are. More cohesion with the rest of the stadium.

Another nitpick - why on earth are we getting rid of Glory Days blaring over the loudspeakers immediately after we win. Was very excited for Glory Days to be played after beating washington and they played some nonsense garbage.

These are little things that make a huge difference. The Penn State guy is overdoing it and is not good. Shouldve been fired after he accidently played the Lion Roar a few years ago.

Schools like Nebraska, VaTech, Wisconsin, Michigan….

They have traditions and they dont F with it. We have traditions that we build for 20 years+ and it gets blown up
He does not want tradition. He wants cookie cutter crap. His defense for playing the lion roar was that he copied his sound board from PSU. He gets a new job running game day operations and cuts and pastes his prior employers sound board. I know DJ's that have entirely different soundboards, effects, laptops etc for different venues and this guy mails it in. Watched the last PSU home game. It sounded like he was running the ops. Same exact crap minus the lion roar. But if he had his way. it would still play.

Glory Days did not play after the washington win. He decided it more important to play a Christmas Carol. A freaking Christmas Carol!
 
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He does not want tradition. He wants cookie cutter crap. His defense for playing the lion roar was that he copied his sound board from PSU. He gets a new job running game day operations and cuts and pastes his prior employers sound board. I know DJ's that have entirely different soundboards, effects, laptops etc for different venues and this guy mails it in. Watched the last PSU home game. It sounded like he was running the ops. Same exact crap minus the lion roar. But if he had his way. it would still play.

Glory Days did not play after the washington win. He decided it more important to play a Christmas Carol. A freaking Christmas Carol!
The Christmas carol was so insane
 
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I kind of hear what you are saying, but he is a NY TV personality and he does the same thing for the NY Jets. It's not like they got Fred from the grocery store to announce at the stadium.
Thanks for this. I've thought for years they were the same but wasn't sure. And I've only heard the voice at Jets games on tv.
 
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