John Severe Transfering from Fordham
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We need guard depth what are you talking about? Idk how tall severe is but we also have no height at guard.
Can he shoot or did he lose it too like the other NYC shooter on our team?
Pikiell probably knows him from HS recruiting. Will be interesting to see if he has any interest.
That is interesting - you have to have a fair amount of discipline and be on top of things to get your 4 year degree in 3 years - it does not necessarily mean that you are a genius - but it would seem to indicate that when needed, you are able to focus and deliver. Basketball career at Fordham may not have been perfect - but if he is maturing, he will be of value on some program.
Fordham had a lot of disciplinary problems with Severe and his progress was higher earlier in his career because they were rebuilding and without depth....that forced him to play a ton of minutes, take a ton of shots and eventually they restocked the roster and relied on Severe less and less as Fordham started to improve this year.....Severe is a player that "hunts" down offensive shots, which is fine when your program doesn't have other options to score....as Ryan Rhoomes improved his game (a player RU, SHU and SJU passed on or didn't recruit hard enough earlier in the process), they leaned on Rhoomes more and Severe less and less....as a one-year "grier" type of rental, maybe if a Corey Sanders departed, but I would not take Severe over Mike Williams.
The Rutgers fan base has to adjust its thinking. Never say never, but Steve Pikiell is here to BUILD the program. It is not a quick fix and he is not a quick fix guy. In his mind building the right way is the only way to go. Quick fixes via transfer simply is not how he has ever done business. His goal is not to go .500 next year. It's to "go dancing" in 3 or 4.
For this upcoming season, at this late stage, bringing in a one year transfer is a good move rather than throwing a 4 year scholarship at a low rated high schooler who's going to clog up a roster spot for years. Far be it for me to quote Bob Hurley but there was an article posted somewhere today where he advocated this strategy for Pikiell. Get some hold the for graduate transfers this year to plug immediate holes and then you'll be able to replace their spots next year after hitting the recruiting trail. Speaking in generalities here, I'll defer to others more knowledgable about Severe and how he would fit.
these 5th year players can act as a bridge to get you by. I know some seem against like Greene Rice but if you need the right fit it can work out...can you imagine how worse RU would have been if Grier didnt show up this year.
...yeah we would have probably only won 1 BE game.
In all seriousness, Grier hurt more than he helped. NO D. He forced shots in the 2nd half and outside a 3-4 game stretch he couldn't shoot. Batie would have been better.
He helped a helluva lot more than Goode who is the type of HS player that would still be available at this point and is definitely clogging up a roster spot. If you think you're going to land a Jeff Greer or Eli Carter then by all means sign him but highly doubt we are going to find a building block HS player at this point. And it beats just not using the scholarship at all and going into the season down one roster spot like we did this year. Where is the next Robert Lumpkins!?!
I think a better bet might be LaSalle. Dr. John does a lot with transfers like him.
He will be looking for a place where he can make a legitimate high visibility contribution
- a contribution that will showcase him & shine a brighter, more dazzling light on... John Severe
.... and help to reposition him as "John Severe - talented basketball player - not to be overlooked"
Rutgers needs lots of help - but a good portion of the help that will be needed will be happening somewhat outside of the brightest part of the spotlight
- it will be noticed by those with a trained eye - but it will not be headline grabbing /dazzling.
- a contribution that will showcase him & shine a brighter, more dazzling light on... John Severe
.... and help to reposition him as "John Severe - talented basketball player - not to be overlooked"
Rutgers needs lots of help - but a good portion of the help that will be needed will be happening somewhat outside of the brightest part of the spotlight
- it will be noticed by those with a trained eye - but it will not be headline grabbing /dazzling.
Interesting, I would think a kid who was honor roll and graduated in 3 years wouldn't be a problem. Perhaps he is difficult to coach? Seems like he took a leave from the team at one point for personal reasons and was suspended once for violating team rules.
Said it before and will say it again. The shot-happy defense-averse Grier that played for RU was the same player that suited up for FAU as a freshman. Does that make me dubious about Severe's potential here? Yep. 7 ppg and disciplinary issues????
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So....losing out on this guy wouldn't be that severe of a problem ?
But bringing him in might cause severe headaches ?
Pass.
I don't want Severe at RU. He didn't have a great 3 years at Fordham. He took most of the shots as a frosh, hardly played as a soph and this past year averaged 7 ppg. His shooting % was not very good at all. I think it is terrific that he graduated in 3 years but we already have Nigel Johnson, Mike Williams, Justin Goode and possibly Bullock at the two guard a few minutes a game. We also still might have Tripp from NYC. I just don't see the need for another 2 guard at this time. If guys transfer out or a guy who is an out of this world player becomes available are the only way I would consider adding another 2 guard.
