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Joseph Gause to Transfer

Knight Shift said:
http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/i...eph_gause_to_transfer.html#incart_river_index

Quentin's brother, who is a walk-on, is transferring for financial reasons. Good luck, Joseph.
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Geez....$14,000 for NJ residents and $29,000 for out-of-state ?
One question: Has the pay for professors increased by the same incredible percentages since I went to RU back in the 70s ?
Oh yeah...one more question: Who exactly CAN afford to send their kids to RU these days?
Oh yeah....one more: Rutgers is still a STATE school, right ? It didn't go private and I just missed the news, right ?
 
mdk01 said:
SUNY Albany (FCS football) tuition $6470. . RU out of state $29521.

Any questions?

Good luck to him
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That's the deal. Article inferred that if Quentin hit his payday with the Eagles, that Quentin would have helped out, but that has not happened. This does not open up a scholarship since Joseph was still a walk on.
 
Kbee3 said:
Geez....$14,000 for NJ residents and $29,000 for out-of-state ?
One question: Has the pay for professors increased by the same incredible percentages since I went to RU back in the 70s ?
Oh yeah...one more question: Who exactly CAN afford to send their kids to RU these days?
Oh yeah....one more: Rutgers is still a STATE school, right ? It didn't go private and I just missed the news, right ?
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29k is still pretty reasonable for an upper echelon State University for an out-of -stater, dude.

(And dude, do you understand economics and psychology? Humans find value in nice things. In this case big buildings, manicured landscapes, power football: that cost money. You realize the government is writing a blank check in loans right? School have no incentive to stop jacking tuitition)
 
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Kbee3 said:
Geez....$14,000 for NJ residents and $29,000 for out-of-state ?
One question: Has the pay for professors increased by the same incredible percentages since I went to RU back in the 70s ?
Oh yeah...one more question: Who exactly CAN afford to send their kids to RU these days?
Oh yeah....one more: Rutgers is still a STATE school, right ? It didn't go private and I just missed the news, right ?
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Is the $14,000 tuition plus room and board
U o I is around $31,000 with room and board and the engineering adds another $2,000 and the Chinese pay $42 to $45 plus travel which is why the student population is at 10%
 
Kbee3 said:
Geez....$14,000 for NJ residents and $29,000 for out-of-state ?
One question: Has the pay for professors increased by the same incredible percentages since I went to RU back in the 70s ?
Oh yeah...one more question: Who exactly CAN afford to send their kids to RU these days?
Oh yeah....one more: Rutgers is still a STATE school, right ? It didn't go private and I just missed the news, right ?
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My daughter went to F.I.T. in NYC, another SUNY school

Tuition in state-$6500 per year
Out of state-almost $20,000 per year

School cost money. Unless you vote for Bernie.:victory:
 
ru78 said:
Is the $14,000 tuition plus room and board
U o I is around $31,000 with room and board and the engineering adds another $2,000 and the Chinese pay $42 to $45 plus travel which is why the student population is at 10%
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Yes. You'd have to add room and board.

BTW, the SUNY Albany complete cost in-state comes to around $20-21,000. That's 8k less than RU TUITION alone for out-of-state. And RU isn't out of line.
 
colbert17 said:
My daughter went to F.I.T. in NYC, another SUNY school

Tuition in state-$6500 per year
Out of state-almost $20,000 per year

School cost money. Unless you vote for Bernie.:victory:
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1, How's their football team?

2. And school would still cost you money. It would just have to filter through an extra layer of bureaucracy,
 
colbert17 said:
My daughter went to F.I.T. in NYC, another SUNY school

Tuition in state-$6500 per year
Out of state-almost $20,000 per year

School cost money. Unless you vote for Bernie.:victory:
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Oh....I voted for Bernie.
 
Kbee3 said:
Geez....$14,000 for NJ residents and $29,000 for out-of-state ?
One question: Has the pay for professors increased by the same incredible percentages since I went to RU back in the 70s ?
Oh yeah...one more question: Who exactly CAN afford to send their kids to RU these days?
Oh yeah....one more: Rutgers is still a STATE school, right ? It didn't go private and I just missed the news, right ?
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NJ has pulled the funding rug out from under RU, as so many state's have done in the past 15 years. Just for a frame of reference, when I graduated from Rutgers Law School 25+ years ago, the state funded 75% of the school's tuition. Today it provides only 15%! It's a crushing blow to the children of the working and middle class. I doubt I would have gone to law school if tuition were at today's rates. RU undergrad has suffered a similar fate, with state funding down to about 25%.
 
Sounds like a very classy father, but out of state tuition is a big sacrifice if there are alternatives in-state at a fraction of the cost. Best of luck to JoJo and Quentin.
 
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Kbee3 said:
Geez....$14,000 for NJ residents and $29,000 for out-of-state ?
One question: Has the pay for professors increased by the same incredible percentages since I went to RU back in the 70s ?
Oh yeah...one more question: Who exactly CAN afford to send their kids to RU these days?
Oh yeah....one more: Rutgers is still a STATE school, right ? It didn't go private and I just missed the news, right ?
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The real difference is the State funding for higher ed has dropped significantly. At RU in the 1980s about half the budget was state supported. Now it is about 25%.
 
There are so many New Jersey residents that don't give a damn about the cost of tuition. They send their kids out of state for $35,000-$55,000 tuition every year. I'm sure they are taking loans that may cause them to go bankrupt because Rutgers is below them.
 
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rutgersdave said:
There are so many New Jersey residents that don't give a damn about the cost of tuition. They send their kids out of state for $35,000-$55,000 tuition every year. I'm sure they are taking loans that may cause them to go bankrupt because Rutgers is below them.
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If it's Stanford that's one thing. If it's Delaware (out-of-state tuition $31,420) it's entirely different.
 
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rutgersdave said:
There are so many New Jersey residents that don't give a damn about the cost of tuition. They send their kids out of state for $35,000-$55,000 tuition every year. I'm sure they are taking loans that may cause them to go bankrupt because Rutgers is below them.
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If tuition has increased to around $14,000 at Rutgers, then it has increased to 35 times what it was back in the Seventies. Exactly what could possibly justify such a drastic increase in the cost of an education at
The State University of New Jersey ?
35 times as much as it was in the Seventies? What else costs 35 times what it did back then ?
That's not right.
 
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Kbee3 said:
If tuition has increased to around $14,000 at Rutgers, then it has increased to 35 times what it was back in the Seventies. Exactly what could possibly justify such a drastic increase in the cost of an education at
The State University of New Jersey ?
35 times as much as it was in the Seventies? What else costs 35 times what it did back then ?
That's not right.
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My guess is that's the very early 70's. Inflation would be 500%, so that's 5X. Then try to get a university financial statement. Compare 2016 administrative costs with when you were there. Finally, consider a 50% cut in the amount of your costs covered by state grants.

I think those are the 3 biggies.
 
In tough times, corporations must cut fat to survive.

I would think there so much fat at the university level. I've never heard of a school going into "cost cutting mode," ever.
 
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MozRU said:
In tough times, corporations must cut fat to survive.

I would think there so much fat at the university level. I've never heard of a school going into "cost cutting mode," ever.
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Mainly because it needs shiny objects like climbing walls because everybody else has them and the faculty confuses "were not about making a profit" with "we're not supposed to be efficient".
 
mdk01 said:
My guess is that's the very early 70's. Inflation would be 500%, so that's 5X. Then try to get a university financial statement. Compare 2016 administrative costs with when you were there. Finally, consider a 50% cut in the amount of your costs covered by state grants.

I think those are the 3 biggies.
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Yeah....very early Seventies.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Look, I could see the 5X increase for inflation. But 35 ?
Who's been running the University....Martin Skrili ?
 
Kbee3 said:
Geez....$14,000 for NJ residents and $29,000 for out-of-state ?
One question: Has the pay for professors increased by the same incredible percentages since I went to RU back in the 70s ?
Oh yeah...one more question: Who exactly CAN afford to send their kids to RU these days?
Oh yeah....one more: Rutgers is still a STATE school, right ? It didn't go private and I just missed the news, right ?
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Having just gone through the college search process, RU is definitely not $14K for in state and $29K for out of state. More like $28K in state and > $40K out of state.
 
Kbee3 said:
Who's been running the University....Martin Skrili ?
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No. It's a partnership. Congress and the Department of Education, neither of whom has seen a regulation they didn't like. State of New Jersey, where there are other, often court mandated priorities and and already sky high tax rate means less funding. Parents and students who are fascinated by shiny objects.
 
I tell my kids (rising juniors at RU) all the time that the days of the government covering a significant chunk of higher education costs, like corporations covering a significant chunk of an employee's retirement through a defined benefit plan, are all but over. It's up to them to get good grades, a good job with good compensation, and start saving early and often.
 
rubaseball78 said:
Having just gone through the college search process, RU is definitely not $14K for in state and $29K for out of state. More like $28K in state and > $40K out of state.
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More like it.
U of I states $11,000 in state but after all included it is between $29,000 to $32,00
I think I paid about $1,800 per year in mid 70's at RU
 
phs73rc77gsm83 said:
I tell my kids (rising juniors at RU) all the time that the days of the government covering a significant chunk of higher education costs,

like corporations covering a significant chunk of an employee's retirement through a defined benefit plan, are all but over.
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So, what is "the government" and "corporations" doing with these massive savings ?
Damn, it's all because of that socialist Eisenhower.
:chairshot:
 
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Kbee3 said:
I'm still trying to figure out who CAN afford this.
And what if one has multiple kids who want to go to Rutgers ?
Do you rob a bank ?
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Student debt is cheap and handed out like candy. Chart does not go back very far but makes its point well.
 
herdof3 said:
I can. 3 kids. Started saving when my wife got pregnant. It's called planning for life.
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Wish my fiances parents were you ... instead they gave her nothing and we are stuck with 80k in student loans to pay back
 
herdof3 said:
I can. 3 kids. Started saving when my wife got pregnant. It's called planning for life.
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Like the average person has the discretionary income to afford a nest egg of the necessary size for that.
And also like loads of average people don't have a chitload of "unplanned" events that will get in the way of that.
Listen, when I was in high school the state of New Jersey provided an opportunity for kids like me to get an affordable college education at the state university. That appears no longer to be the case.
I'm sure we're all the better for it.
 
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