Junior College may no longer count against 4-year eligibility limit

[rutgersguy1]

 

[LotusAggressor]

Doesn't BYU always have a bunch of 25 year olds on their roster? I remember when RU played Ball State in the International Bowl, they had a guy that was 30.

 

[retired711]

What's the downside?
That some kids are a little older.
NCAA already grants extra years of eligibility for medical reasons.

So a precedent is set "as long as your still a student you can still be eligible".
What's is matter if someone starts that eligibility a little later?

If someone take a year to travel Europe, that's not counting.
Chris Weinke took a couple years off before enrolling in college.

Nick, it won't just be some kids who are older. I think it's going to end up that they will all be older. If everyone else is starting their four years of college eligibility at 20, wouldn't you do the same so that you also had the benefit of two years of additional training, physical maturation, and NIL money? This is going to be a huge change especially now that players can be paid.

 

[NickRU714]

Nick, it won't just be some kids who are older. I think it's going to end up that they will all be older. If everyone else is starting their four years of college eligibility at 20, wouldn't you do the same so that you also had the benefit of two years of additional training, physical maturation, and NIL money? This is going to be a huge change especially now that players can be paid.

Change yes. Agreed.

Negative?
Nobody has really said why.

If they are enrolled in the school, what's the problem?
Now we care about having only 18-22 year old students?

 

[NickRU714]

How are potential athletes attending a year of prep school after HS different than attending a year or two of a JUCO?

If the prep school doesn't count then why should the JUCO year count?

 

[retired711]

Change yes. Agreed.

Negative?
Nobody has really said why.

If they are enrolled in the school, what's the problem?
Now we care about having only 18-22 year old students?

Here's a possible positive: kids will have six years in which to accumulate their degree credits.

From the standpoint of the four year schools, there will be a huge short-term disruption: the kids they are trying to recruit out of high school will in many cases go to junior college instead unless they get a really good financial offer from a four year school.

 

[Knight Shift]

Doesn't BYU always have a bunch of 25 year olds on their roster? I remember when RU played Ball State in the International Bowl, they had a guy that was 30.

Virginia kicker Matt Ganyard is believed to be the oldest player in Division I this season, having walked on to the Cavaliers roster as a 34-year-old in 2023. Prior to his time in Charlottesville, Ganyard spent 10 years in the U.S. Marine Corps

 

[rutgersguy1]

Here's a possible positive: kids will have six years in which to accumulate their degree credits.

From the standpoint of the four year schools, there will be a huge short-term disruption: the kids they are trying to recruit out of high school will in many cases go to junior college instead unless they get a really good financial offer from a four year school.

Is this a good financial offer lol

 

[vkj91]

Change yes. Agreed.

Negative?
Nobody has really said why.

If they are enrolled in the school, what's the problem?
Now we care about having only 18-22 year old students?

Here’s two reasons
College is supposed to be 4 years. Now it’s 7
Also, will be a disaster for roster management as you’ll have kids going pro after 1 year of D1 football.

 

[NickRU714]

Here’s two reasons
College is supposed to be 4 years. Now it’s 7
Also, will be a disaster for roster management as you’ll have kids going pro after 1 year of D1 football.

Ok. College is supposed to be 4 years.

You getting rid of redshirts?
No graduate students?
Medical redshirts?
All athletes only get 4 years?

When does that 4 years start?
Once HS ends or once they enter the NCAA system?
Suppose someone can't qualify out of HS? They go prep for a year.
They only get 3 years then once getting into Rutgers?

Roster management gets hard?
So what. Thats what the Athletic Department gets paid for.
To me, that's not a compelling negative.
Transfers make roster management harder too.

 

[NickRU714]

College is only 4 years and between the ages of 18-22.

Good to know.

 

[Shelby65]

Here’s two reasons
College is supposed to be 4 years. Now it’s 7
Also, will be a disaster for roster management as you’ll have kids going pro after 1 year of D1 football.

‘Supposed to’ says who ? And not any more of a disaster than the revolving door transfer portal rentals now.

JUCO not counting is a nothing burger. Teams will have a few older players. So what. By and large JUCO players aren’t as good. Most better players will get ncaa offers out of high school

 

[rucoe89]

Just when you think no other stupid things can happen in the sport......

Although the NCAA saying the rulings would strip " college athletics of its defining feature-That it is played by student athletes" is pretty comical, because with NIL that ship has long sailed.

We've only begun to scratch the surface of "stupid things!". The Private Equity folks already are brainstorming for next level.