JWill. Still not official, right?
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Pike on the radio after the game said we're getting 2 more guys real soon (meaning Ogbole and JWill)
We need him asap. Look at the difference Austin Williams has made. Theirs a real chance Jeremiah is the best overall guard we have
So maybe Fernandes wasn’t in the plan to play starters minutes after all…but was thrust into that role with the Williams’ injury recovery/eligibility issues?
Everyone knew Jeremiah Williams had eligibility questions. First of all, he was a second-time transfer at a time when that rule was unsettled so he might've had to sit out for that. And then the gambling stuff on top of that.
When Pike was asked a follow up about J Williams, he said “we applied for a waiver with him”. So many questions still unanswered……When did they apply for this? What was the waiver for specifically, a request that his half season suspension for gambling be considered as served already based upon the half season this year? When do they expect an answer from the NCAA? Will they even get an answer from the NCAA anytime soon? So many unknowns with this plus the NCAA loves to tell teams to basically “hurry up and wait”…..For Pike to speak openly about this like he did, I am assuming he has the answers to at least some of these questions.
How does Shannon get back on the court faster than J Will.
That is bat shit.
That is bat shit.
Because the Rutgers Athletics Dept. doesn‘t make enough noise and doesn’t have the right representation. If we defy the NCAA, what are they going to do … vacate wins? Has Politi or any of the media folks or The B1G Show talking heads given any real coverage and details about where the JWill situation stands?
I thought the same thing.
Is he actually suspended even?
I haven’t seen a press release that he was suspended even though we know by rules he should be. Actually the rules were modified after he pled guilty. As of now no media outlet has released any news on an official punishment from NCAA. It’s possible it’s there and hasn’t been leaked, but I feel like someone would have a bead on it.
Are we asking for a waiver For compliance to a rule vs an actual suspension and that is causing the delay. The NCAA is so far behind that they can’t waive him from what they didn’t even issue yet?
Part of me wonders if Pike is being too much of a good guy here and not asking for forgiveness instead of permission.
I believe Fernandes was one of our top transfer targets and committed we'll before anyone else.
He committed before Mulcahy and Spencer left.
I believe it was always the intention he was coming in as a likely starter.
J Williams was always believed to start the year our and likely miss the entire year.
A Williams was brought in to challenge/unseat Simpson as a start.
That said, this board's ability to quickly anoint yet another player our best option based on minimal playing time is second to none. This guy is a step beyond, though, since he hasn't even played yet.
We knew definitively that we were losing McConnell, and it was highly unlikely Mag would be ready to go at the start of the season. It was unknown if Mulcahy would be returning.
Fernandes was definitely brought in to start, likely alongside Spencer, Mulcahy, Hyatt, and Omoruyi. He was seen as a quick point guard with good outside shooting, that could complement both Spencer and Mulcahy.
We didn't go after the Williams' in the portal until after Spencer entered his name in the portal, followed by Mulcahy. We desperately needed another guard with size, and took what we could get.
How could things possibly move this slowly for the decision-making ?
Do they communicate by the pony express ?
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Glad you recapped that sequence for us. It makes sense from Pike’s perspective, the way everything unfolded.
Also, what is somewhat overlooked is that before we got Cam in the portal, a big knock on Pikiell was that he didn’t recruit enough shooters.
Cam was a great get for Pike, even as he was coming from a mid-major. So the next year Pike did the same thing, got a top 3-point shooter from a mid-major in Fernandes.
I agree with all except PM being in the starting lineup part. Pike saw the slow plodding offense of the previous 2-3 years and wanted faster movement down the court. PM was going to be moved to a third guard or forward position in my opinion and was probably discussed as the first player off the bench. No way you were losing a McConnell and not having a speedy/stalwart defender on the perimeter. Fernandes, Spencer, Hyatt and Mulcahy would not have cut it.
Simpson would have started even with that group.
GO RU
Classic that he has been anointed our best guard. Let’s see him play first, have we learned no lessons based upon what this year’s team has actually looked like on the court in actual games? I hope he is our best guard, but I’ll take a believe it when I see it on the court approach.
Without a healthy Mag, Mulcahy would have started at the beginning of the season. With Mag back, he'd have been fighting Spencer / Fernandes / Simpson for a starting guard role.
We finished last season with Simpson/Spencer/Mulcahy/McConnell/Omoruyi and knew we were losing McConnell. Hyatt would have slotted in at the 4, and Fernandes would have come in for Simpson and given him a year to grow into the starting role.
Because you are judging Shannon guilty when he may be innocent. If he is innocent, why should he be kept from playing? A federal judge ruled that he wasn’t getting due process.
If he is guilty, then he should be punished accordingly. But why do you want to prejudge him?
The woman claims he grabbed her by the p*ssy in a crowded bar. In Kansas, that is considered rape. Shannon says he didn’t do it. The DNA they collected doesn’t match him. It will play out in court, but if he is innocent, they would have taken away his whole season that he can’t get back.
Seriously, is it guilty until proven innocent for you?
Dude.
Shannon was charged with a felony on 12/27 and suspended on 12/28 for an alleged incident on 9/9/23. He can play this Sunday.
Williams plead guilty to a misdemeanor on 9/20. The NCAA changed its rules regarding the impact of such a misdemeanor on 11/9/23.
At worst case he would be ineligible until 50% of the season which would have been surpassed in the 16th game of the 31 game season (occurred on 1/14).
The other issue with Williams was a 2nd transfer which the NCAA said these athletes could play through the spring season on 12/18/23.
In summary he have known the rules the NCAA would impose on Williams 10 days before Shannon was charged and by those rules Williams should have been eligible for our last game.
Yet we still don’t have clarity on when he (Williams will be back) in what essentially should be a freaking email from
NCAA and the other
dude already got a hearing and a ruling in the judicial system that says he can play.
That is the question.
Does that not seem like a valid question, or did you jump straight to automatically knowing what I am assuming?
