Kemoko vs. West Coast Offense
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Very legitimate question. Do we use press coverage to "slow" the play down a little so our rush has a shot at the QB?
Imagine Kemoko's vertical in a passing lane. If you are a QB would you dare to try to throw it over his head?
I would love to see our secondary press the receivers at the line of scrimmage. I anxiously await the day when our defense has progressed to the point where we're not automatically giving up 5-7 yards on every pass play.
From what I recall, we used to press a lot with safety help (Cover-2, man) and disguise blitzes out of that look under Schiano (there's even a YouTube video explaining the CB's technique).
I think in recent times we've gone away from that and went more with a Cover-1/Cover-3 zone & zone blitz with less pressing (very dangerous out of a C1/C3 shell -- if a flanker gets by the CB, it's over because there's no deep safety help).
BTW: you can run 'Cloud' coverage and have ONE of the corners press out of a C1/C3 shell -
In college, the rolled up CB is usually the BOUNDARY corner (vs. FIELD) due to the wider splits (vs. NFL). This CB must be a physical beast because they are typically responsible for run support and funneling runs back into pursuit.
In college, the rolled up CB is usually the BOUNDARY corner (vs. FIELD) due to the wider splits (vs. NFL). This CB must be a physical beast because they are typically responsible for run support and funneling runs back into pursuit.
This. I hope we don't see our CBs giving an automatic 7 yard cushion.
This has killed us in the past.
DB coach Wilson did not coach under Schiano. Has the same scheme and technique been maintained over the years?
Choppin: I'm not sure if the scheme was maintained, but I doubt it. Offenses have greatly evolved in the last 10 years and the defenses have been forced to adjust. That's why the gradual move away from Cover-2 even at the pro-level -- you need answers for the spread & running QBs that a vanilla Cover-2 cannot provide. Cover-2 was designed to combat the short timing routes of the West Coast offense. In fact -- sort of getting back on topic -- Cover-2 is the perfect counter to a pure West Coast offense. However, you need absolute stud pass-rushers because you're primarily relying on the front 4 to generate pressure -- everyone else is dropping into coverage. Cover-2 teams also tend to be undersized, especially at linebacker (the MLB actually has deep middle responsibility and must be able to cover ground quickly). A good running attack will obliterate a pure Cover-2 team for that reason. Now add a run threat at QB and -- presto -- everyone's now running cover 1/3/4. [Edit]: Not to mention the resurgence of the TE position being manned by freaks of nature -- no MLB is going to be able to keep up with the Gronks & Grahams of the world...)
Ummm....we played press coverage plenty in 2012 when we had Ryan, cooper, and jones an cb...experience and physical.
We haven't had experienced corners or depth there to play press man since
Soon...got the horses but they need to grow up
We haven't had experienced corners or depth there to play press man since
Soon...got the horses but they need to grow up
Shack: we pressed out of a cover-2 shell. Check out the following link. Note the location of the safeties.
Here's Logan Ryan in the Pinstripe Bowl.
Here's Logan Ryan in the Pinstripe Bowl.
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