Last Shot

[RUChow]

Love Pike but he blew the last three seconds. Basketball 101 - you put Johnson on the inbounder to prevent a full court pass. Make them come back for the ball then they have to go 80 feet in three seconds. In all my years I've never seen anyone do what he did.

And while I'm at it - stop having Gio fighting over screens 25 feet from the basket. First of all he's terrible at it. Second, it wears him out, and third, it leads to five on four and open threes. I understand the idea of developing toughness, but it's really dumb.

 

[Plum Street]

Love Pike but he blew the last three seconds. Basketball 101 - you put Johnson on the inbounder to prevent a full court pass. Make them come back for the ball then they have to go 80 feet in three seconds. In all my years I've never seen anyone do what he did.

We all know this. Except for people on this board

 

[Tango Two]

Love Pike but he blew the last three seconds. Basketball 101 - you put Johnson on the inbounder to prevent a full court pass. Make them come back for the ball then they have to go 80 feet in three seconds. In all my years I've never seen anyone do what he did.

And while I'm at it - stop having Gio fighting over screens 25 feet from the basket. First of all he's terrible at it. Second, it wears him out, and third, it leads to five on four and open threes. I understand the idea of developing toughness, but it's really dumb.

https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/threads/guard-the-inbounder.162762/

 

[RW90]

We all know this. Except for people on this board

Wait, wut???

 

[ColonelRutgers]

Love Pike but he blew the last three seconds. Basketball 101 - you put Johnson on the inbounder to prevent a full court pass. Make them come back for the ball then they have to go 80 feet in three seconds. In all my years I've never seen anyone do what he did.

And while I'm at it - stop having Gio fighting over screens 25 feet from the basket. First of all he's terrible at it. Second, it wears him out, and third, it leads to five on four and open threes. I understand the idea of developing toughness, but it's really dumb.

3.3 seconds is an eternity for a guy like Bohannan to catch a bounce pass somewhere in the backcourt and dribble within 30-40 feet for a makeable look (for him). It doesn't have to be a full court pass. Hell, Tyus Edney dribbled about 85 feet for a layup off the backboard in 4 seconds to win a game for UCLA once upon a time. They made a miraculous shot.

 

[DHajekRC84]

Love Pike but he blew the last three seconds. Basketball 101 - you put Johnson on the inbounder to prevent a full court pass. Make them come back for the ball then they have to go 80 feet in three seconds. In all my years I've never seen anyone do what he did.

And while I'm at it - stop having Gio fighting over screens 25 feet from the basket. First of all he's terrible at it. Second, it wears him out, and third, it leads to five on four and open threes. I understand the idea of developing toughness, but it's really dumb.

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except that it would have been a 60ft heave all net for the win. we're just always getting the chair pulled out. sounds like we played a hell of a game.

 

[bac2therac]

they could have inbounded to midcourt and called a timeout as well.

There will be two camps to this as there always are. I just watch alot of hoops and see the inbound not guarded leading to easy passes caught for shots...some even less than 3.3. I want the inbound to be as difficult as possible

 

[ColonelRutgers]

they could have inbounded to midcourt and called a timeout as well.

There will be two camps to this as there always are. I just watch alot of hoops and see the inbound not guarded leading to easy passes caught for shots...some even less than 3.3. I want the inbound to be as difficult as possible

And McCaffrey believes in guarding the inbounds passer every time too so maybe that was what Iowa was expecting and was best prepared to attack. I doubt that as that actual final play started to develop that Iowa was happy with what they were executing while their sharpshooter was taken completely out of the play.

 

[bac2therac]

its a weird play by Iowa as well, they could have got the ball inbound to midcourt and called timeout assuming they had timeouts

didnt see Frans presser but Im sure he was asked what he was thinking there

on another note I guess our last possession play has become Geo dribbling and then taking a step back 3.....I liked going for 3 there and to be honest that might be our highest percentage chance to for a basket in end game situations at this point

 

[ColonelRutgers]

its a weird play by Iowa as well, they could have got the ball inbound to midcourt and called timeout assuming they had timeouts

didnt see Frans presser but Im sure he was asked what he was thinking there

on another note I guess our last possession play has become Geo dribbling and then taking a step back 3.....I liked going for 3 there and to be honest that might be our highest percentage chance to for a basket in end game situations at this point

Not positive but I think Iowa used their last timeout after Geo's basket. Let's face it, Geo's three got the right bounce too. If we are being honest, I think we all felt at the time that we got a lucky bounce ourselves when Geo's three dropped. I've seen Geo lose the ball on a number of those types of plays with the clock running down, unfortunately.

 

[whofrewdatmataRU13]

Used their last time out after Geo's shot bac

 

[GoFish2]

they could have inbounded to midcourt and called a timeout as well.

There will be two camps to this as there always are. I just watch alot of hoops and see the inbound not guarded leading to easy passes caught for shots...some even less than 3.3. I want the inbound to be as difficult as possible

They had no TO's left.

 

[batts]

Willard originally wasn’t going to guard the inbounder with 2.7 seconds left against Kentucky. He changed his mind and put 7’2” Gill to guard the inbounder which gave the Kentucky player a clean shot from half court. Willard said he regretted his decision to guard the inbounder. Iowa won on a fluke shot. Pike made the right call.

 

[sct1111]

So much hindsight bias. It was LUCKY. That's it. Their center hit a three by banking it off of the SIDE of the backboard from the corner.

 

[Scarlet Shack]

Nope

You guys are Way off

Way off

There is no textbook way of defending this situation the same way

You defend it based on who we are playing period

We weren’t playing duke 1992 with a guy who could catch a 75 foot pass and Bull there way to the basket like lattner could

We were playing a team that has a baller at the guard position who can make crazy shots , has made game winning shots....can make crazy shots off the bounce .and far MORE importantly , is getting the whistle on any form contact in a ONE point game, is a lights out free throw shooter, and can create Contact by his own skill and get that whistle if he can’t get that look

You take him OUT ...which we did

And you take your chances that you can defend three on three

We defended it well...

Stop with the coaching questions after the fact

If Bohannon breaks down and gets a clean look and wins ...you guys are crucifying the coach

We played THiS opponent in THiS situation completely correct an

 

[Ru_Ie2012]

Video of the shot from baseline. It must have slightly grazed the corner of backboard to angle back like that..unreal.

 

[ColonelRutgers]

Nope

You guys are Way off

Way off

There is no textbook way of defending this situation the same way

You defend it based on who we are playing period

We weren’t playing duke 1992 with a guy who could catch a 75 foot pass and Bull there way to the basket like lattner could

We were playing a team that has a baller at the guard position who can make crazy shots , has made game winning shots....can make crazy shots off the bounce .and far MORE importantly , is getting the whistle on any form contact in a ONE point game, is a lights out free throw shooter, and can create Contact by his own skill and get that whistle if he can’t get that look

You take him OUT ...which we did

And you take your chances that you can defend three on three

We defended it well...

Stop with the coaching questions after the fact

If Bohannon breaks down and gets a clean look and wins ...you guys are crucifying the coach

We played THiS opponent in THiS situation completely correct an

Perfectly stated.

 

[Plum Street]

Nope

You guys are Way off

Way off

There is no textbook way of defending this situation the same way

You defend it based on who we are playing period

We weren’t playing duke 1992 with a guy who could catch a 75 foot pass and Bull there way to the basket like lattner could

We were playing a team that has a baller at the guard position who can make crazy shots , has made game winning shots....can make crazy shots off the bounce .and far MORE importantly , is getting the whistle on any form contact in a ONE point game, is a lights out free throw shooter, and can create Contact by his own skill and get that whistle if he can’t get that look

You take him OUT ...which we did

And you take your chances that you can defend three on three

We defended it well...

Stop with the coaching questions after the fact

If Bohannon breaks down and gets a clean look and wins ...you guys are crucifying the coach

We played THiS opponent in THiS situation completely correct an

The more I think about it and read your post, I think you may be right . The only problem is pike’s strategy didn’t work because we lost . That’s how sports goes, if you win it’s great . But if you lose, you will be second guessed .

 

[shields]

The Iowa coach said in his presser he understood because They doubled Bohannon. Did not want that kid taking the shot. Made a hell of a shot versus Northwestern last week, had to be at least NBA three point range. Just saw the replay, hard to believe shot went in.

 

[RutgersRaRa]

One of the problems IN THIS GAME with putting a guy on the inbounder is that if we let them catch the ball, we run the risk of fouling them and they are good FT shooters. I think Pike opted to try preventing the ball from getting into their hands in the first place, not just to prevent their ability to take a shot but that we didn't get some ticky-tack bullshit call and send them to the line and lost it there. We lost on a one-in-10k shot, and I'm still nauseous from that shot going in.

 

[Ruthinking]

Let’s give Iowa some credit. That was a planned play that worked exactly as its drawn up. Their shooter went to the exact spot where the ball was tipped...it wasn’t luck. Watch the movement of Iowa. They actually had two players go to that exact spot and the tipped pass was perfect. Hats off to Iowa.

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

People forget how long 3.2 seconds is in basketball....just a few weeks ago, a slower and less mobile James Palmer of Nebraska, got a very clean look from around 30 to 35 feet at the end of the 1st half. And drained it.

The threats of Bohannon on the move, where you couldn't even think of breathing near him to have a foul called on RU impacts how you defend him. The play was just as much lucky as Geo Bakers shot trickling in as well.

The game itself has significantly more strategic items to discuss over 40 minutes that are far more worthy than asking 50% FT shooting bigs to shoot 80% or how a team defends a play well and still has a ball bounce against them. You can almost tell who watches SportsCenter for basketball information vs actual live basketball.

Just because Fran McCaffrey says he would guard the inbounder doesn't mean it's the right decision. If you have multiple threats off the dribble that can advance the ball and get to the 3 point line, you will give up an open and makeable 3.

 

[BigRnj]

Exactly as planned??? Share what you’re smoking.

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

Exactly as planned??? Share what you’re smoking.

It was planned. The plan albeit a low % one was for that big man to catch and pass to the corner for a shot or tip to the corner. Mccaffrey went over it in his postgame.

Obviously the plan wasnt to get buried in the corner and bank off glass but thats the look they wanted

 

[bac2therac]

People forget how long 3.2 seconds is in basketball....just a few weeks ago, a slower and less mobile James Palmer of Nebraska, got a very clean look from around 30 to 35 feet at the end of the 1st half. And drained it.



The threats of Bohannon on the move, where you couldn't even think of breathing near him to have a foul called on RU impacts how you defend him. The play was just as much lucky as Geo Bakers shot trickling in as well.

The game itself has significantly more strategic items to discuss over 40 minutes that are far more worthy than asking 50% FT shooting bigs to shoot 80% or how a team defends a play well and still has a ball bounce against them. You can almost tell who watches SportsCenter for basketball information vs actual live basketball.

Just because Fran McCaffrey says he would guard the inbounder doesn't mean it's the right decision. If you have multiple threats off the dribble that can advance the ball and get to the 3 point line, you will give up an open and makeable 3.

But lets also not make 35 foot shots the norm and high perecentage shots either...most likely he still wouldnt get a good look. Ru is still defending the play. I like shots being forced from as further out as possible. Weiskamp look was actually pretty good

 

[Ruthinking]

Exactly as planned??? Share what you’re smoking.

Exactly as planned??? Share what you’re smoking.

Yes, it was a planned play. The bank off the backboard was not planned but the rest was drawn up.

 

[Knight Owl]

"Off backboard and swoosh...game blouses."

 

[Good-Knight]

Don't forget that the pass was deflected. They got luck twice. Ball came to their guy. Their guy made a shot.
Unless we're calling a time out to set up something special that they have practiced for that situation, Pike played it right.

 

[Local Shill]

So much hindsight bias. It was LUCKY. That's it. Their center hit a three by banking it off of the SIDE of the backboard from the corner.

He’s not a center.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

The outrage of the fanbase would have been 10X worse had Bohannon made the shot. Can you imagine after watching him do it last week we would waste a defender on a guy who couldn't win the game and not use him on Bohannon.

 

[Ruthinking]

He’s not a center.

He’s a 45% 3 point shooter

 

[BillyC80]

The outrage of the fanbase would have been 10X worse had Bohannon made the shot. Can you imagine after watching him do it last week we would waste a defender on a guy who couldn't win the game and not use him on Bohannon.

Not gonna second guess Pike now (I did before, in the game thread), because he explained the need to double Bohannon. But the inbounder played his part in winning the game.

 

[dpwhite]

Not sure if this was pointed out but Willard guarded the inbounded with their center against Kentucky and Kentucky was about to tie the game with a half court three. Damned if you do...

 

[bac2therac]

rewatching it, Bohannon hardly was double teamed, more like Baker on him but really no one else was close to him, so there seemed to be a player in the middle McConnell but no way was Bohannon double teamed

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

rewatching it, Bohannon hardly was double teamed, more like Baker on him but really no one else was close to him, so there seemed to be a player in the middle McConnell but no way was Bohannon double teamed

He was doubled. It was an under over double. Geo fronted him for any short entries and caleb was over the top if they tried a lob to bohanon.

 

[bac2therac]

point is that Bohannon would have had an easy inbound if they decided to go to him. Interesting to watch Cook also race down the sideline as well. during that play. I think the shot they got off wasnt that far from what they wanted. yes crazy deflection but he was right there with enough room to shoot.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

He was supposed to be. Extra inbounded was on him 5-10 seconds before it was inbounde

 

[BellyFullOfWhiteDogCrap]

Don't forget the inbounder could run the baseline, thus avoid any distraction from a defender.
Tough decision and a miracle shot. Can't point the finger at Pike.

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

rewatching it, Bohannon hardly was double teamed, more like Baker on him but really no one else was close to him, so there seemed to be a player in the middle McConnell but no way was Bohannon double teamed

He was bracketed to avoid a pass to allow him to catch the ball on the move....if he wasn't bracketed like a free safety, he would have attempted to make the pass to Bohannon. McConnell was centerfield to avoid the catch and run/dribble toward the basket. You only get 3-4 seconds before the kid has to unload a pass, the corner pass was not option 1.

 

[dpwhite]

He was doubled. It was an under over double. Geo fronted him for any short entries and caleb was over the top if they tried a lob to bohanon.

Exactly, they were trying to keep him from getting the ball and keep Rutgers away from him as well so no cheap fouls could be called. The biggest problem on the play was Eugene's bad knee. If he could jump another 2 inches, he would have intercepted the ball or batted it away, instead of just tipping it.