Holy crap. You can't win on this board. I've been wrongly labeled as a hater and now I'm being killed as a supporter.
People HATED Tom when he was at the Ledger
Luicci no longer working for RU
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People HATED Tom when he was at the Ledger
So you hate Tom simply because he worked for the Ledger. You do realize he hated Politti and battle against that ahole for year's
It's not about winning, it's about making sense.
Nobody is talking about Luicci in the context of his work at the S-L. You're right, a lot of people complained about what he wrote when he worked there, but most people understood that he wrote the things he wrote because the program sucked.
None of that is relevant.
You said that some number of people here have been "proven Tom haters". That is an incorrect statement. You can't name those people and you can't "prove" that they hate Tom Luicci. So don't say it.
You then said that in order for someone to fill the position he filled - which, as @vkj91 has pointed out, seemed to consist of Twitter and web site posts with the occasional awkwardly produced video thrown in, that person has to "love Rutgers". That statement is also incorrect. The only requirement is that the person in question be qualified and professional.
According to Data Universe, $120,000
http://php.app.com/rutgersweb/results.php?last=luicci&rest=&depart=%&campus=%&Submit=Search
I think it's more like people hated the Ledger (and still do, of course) and in some eyes Tom was guilty by association. He was also a victim of some headlines he surely didn't come up with (Manahan :chairshot:). His snarkiness at times with respect to RU didn't help the anti-RU perception, if one held it, but I think that is just his way. I agree Tom clearly loves RU. That was evident the last 2 years and I wish him luck in whatever he decides to do.
Your are completely wrong that there is no one on this board that hated Tom because he worked for the Ledger. There are plenty! Reasonable people like you and VKJ, myself are not them but Tom has been killed on this board by the narrow minded idiots forever.
Plus my main point is against those that he was hired to "protect" Julie. Tom had a job thats needed at Rutgers no matter who is the coach, AD, President.
And it looks like that job, along with Tom has been eliminated. Another example of Rutgers being frugal again
the AD doesn't talk to the media every day or every week..someone will be replacing Tom at a much much lower price and that's okay. Hobbs is entitled to have his people just like Julie was
has twitter responded with outrage, I just want to check on the consistency of that of why Baum firing was met with calls that Julie was the worst person in the world for getting rid of him
has twitter responded with outrage, I just want to check on the consistency of that of why Baum firing was met with calls that Julie was the worst person in the world for getting rid of him
Bac. If the spot is maintained than I don't have much problem with the changes. However there seems to be an elimination of that role. Tom is gone with no replacement
Because the lack of Rutgers statement. And knowing Rutgers from being notorious cheap
Most likely forbidden by contract--pro forma-type stuff, especially when hiring a writer.
Tom Liucci wrote a lot of garbage about RU that was simply uncalled for. Now maybe he did that because he was writing for the SL and those were his marching orders, but his pieces were unfairly negative quite often.
I liked your post. But I felt it was necessary to clarify why I liked it. It wasn't so much that I agree with what you said, although I did. It was because it was said with panache. We need more panache around here.
I was able to interview Tom for the history of Rutgers course being taught this spring. The full interview will be available in the Rutgers Archives (he's signed the release), and I think you'd all agree it's a wonderful interview.
FIFY.
Actually, with the fundraising effort, daily/weekly communication and periodic updates may become the norm.
This may be the most sane & accurate comment ever made on this board.
I'm sure you've realized this by now....but quite often, the effort and time spent putting forth logical content /arguments on this board are wasted.
???? You can find a football coach to do Ash's job for quite a bit less than what we are paying him as well....
I don't understand all the warm and fuzzies being expressed about Tom. Guess I'll have to read the interview. I found his work at the SL to be unnecessarily caustic and non- supportive- some of you call that honesty, I don't. His work at RU was very pedestrian. Perhaps he did fill an important role as a filter for Miss Julie, but now that she's gone, so is he. I do agree with others that RU needs a voice and face, separate from the AD, to interface with the media jackals , but TL was nurtured by them . He may have had his differences with Politi but he went to the same school of journalism, figuratively speaking. I look forward to his replacement or not.
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See TL's tenure as having been the convergence of mutual needs & timing - the Star-Ledger situation was not desirable (lots of established names vanished) - and RU had an acute tactical need - it was essential to stabilize a critical situation - TL filled an immediate need & RU met TL's immediate need to be in a better place - TL knew the players, had connections, had more than a general gist of tactically how to do what was desired.... and short of hiring some high powered crisis management Public Relations firm, he served the immediate purpose.
Going forward, Hobbs seems to want to redefine the way that this general area of need is served - he may want a greater level of emphasis on public relations strategy and then have communications programs follow a coordinated overall plan. The transitions & major programs that Hobbs is / will be advancing will need to be supported by a comprehensive communications / public relations programs.
Wish TL well - and greatly hope that his next endeavor is an excellent match with is goals, aspirations & skills.
Going forward, Hobbs seems to want to redefine the way that this general area of need is served - he may want a greater level of emphasis on public relations strategy and then have communications programs follow a coordinated overall plan. The transitions & major programs that Hobbs is / will be advancing will need to be supported by a comprehensive communications / public relations programs.
Wish TL well - and greatly hope that his next endeavor is an excellent match with is goals, aspirations & skills.
A crackhead could raise your children too but I'm sure you're not going to make that move. The most important position in the athletic department and some guy in the media department aren't even close to being equal. This board is amazing, lol.
Yes, Hobbs can communicate - but for various reasons (like time is not infinite & he has vast responsibilities) Hobbs has various communications upport needs .
- however, it is reasonable to think that those needs might not be best met by TL - and Hobbs may be better served though the use of other resources.
And I assumed as much but my 2 minute search on the Googles didn't turn up the numbers. RUJohnny posted it since.
I don't agree with the two being an apples-to-apples comparison.
Employing a cheap football head coach to lead by far its most visible and highest potential-grossing athletic program is exactly what Rutgers did for the past four years. And needless to say, the results weren't pretty.
Hobbs, Baumgardner, and others share in the responsibility of public relations at R.U. and thus far seem capable enough in their respective capacities to not require a world-class person in this position.
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still haven't passed reading comprehension I see. Every AD is entitled to their own hires. No problem with Hobbs doing this. Just want people to be consistent
Is it that news worthy that RU has to issue a statement?
If they don't need someone to speak for the AD, they can hire someone at half the cost to write articles for sk.com.
I would say an head football coach is a little more important than someone who writes some articles for sk.com.
If someone is hired, he would not be doing the same job anyway. Hobbs does not need any help.
Does ru66 contribute anything here besides riding your jock about Julie. That's the only time I ever see that name.
She's gone, bro, you can let it go now.
yes, but this board does not know how to do insane in small doses.
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." RWE
