NIT dreams?
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Not going to happen this year guys.
Enjoy the ride for the last few games and save the worrying about postseason for next year.
Enjoy the ride for the last few games and save the worrying about postseason for next year.
Nope. Not saving anything for next year. That can wait until the season is over. Let's dream about what could happen this year. Is the NIT likely, probably not; is it possible, yeah, it's possible.
Well we need to see analysis...
1. NCAA bubble is weak
2. How many conference regular season winners win their tournaments?
1. NCAA bubble is weak
2. How many conference regular season winners win their tournaments?
need to sweep last 3 and then one in tourney puts us 50/50 at 17-15
there is no margin for error...RU cannot lose any more regular season games..thread the needle path to NIT
there is no margin for error...RU cannot lose any more regular season games..thread the needle path to NIT
Screw that. Let's win the B1G tourney.
Must beat Pen St, and they are playing good ball.
Hope The RAC is rocking vs Pen St
Most important home game in quite some time
Hope The RAC is rocking vs Pen St
Most important home game in quite some time
Last year there were 12 autobids and 20 at large in the NIT.
That math and the NCAA bubble is what matters here.
What does team 15 and 25 on NCAA bubble look like...those are the possible range as least team in for NIT
That math and the NCAA bubble is what matters here.
What does team 15 and 25 on NCAA bubble look like...those are the possible range as least team in for NIT
Last year ONE 17-15 team got into the NIT. Temple. That's it. And that team had some quality nonconference wins. LSU got in at 17-14. Baylor was 18-14. Stanford 18-15. Twelve of the bids were automatic, leaving 20 at-large teams, and last year 12 of the 20 had at least 20 wins.
We have a better shot at winning the Big Ten and getting into the NCAA than making the NIT. The days of being .500 and a short ride from MSG getting you in are long gone.
We have a better shot at winning the Big Ten and getting into the NCAA than making the NIT. The days of being .500 and a short ride from MSG getting you in are long gone.
What if every conference regular season champion won their tournament?
You would have 36 at large picks for NCAAs
You would have 32 at large picks for NIT
#68 makes the NIT
Rutgers at 16-16 probably makes the tournament
You would have 36 at large picks for NCAAs
You would have 32 at large picks for NIT
#68 makes the NIT
Rutgers at 16-16 probably makes the tournament
there are alot of midmajors in the NIT range that deserve it over RU..also a bunch of BE schools have better NET rankings
At this stage, here is our path:
Ohio State on day 2
Iowa day 3
Winner of Michigan/Purdue day 4
Michigan State final
I don’t think we could ask for a much better path.
We avoid Maryland
We avoid MI State until the final
For those dreaming, thoughts on this potential path?
If RU got to .500 + 1 that would improve slightly.
The scenario that all or almost all reg season win conf tournament is not happening.
My point is what makes or doesn’t make NIT is a huge moving target. In most years what has been said is correct. If there are 2 variable 1. Weak bubble 2. Reg winning conf, we have #1 this year
You misread the bracket.
We are currently in the 7 vs 10 game against Ohio State.
Win that and we play 2 (Purdue). Iowa (6) would face off with Michigan (3).
Win against Purdue and face winner of Iowa/Michigan.
Win that and it could be Michigan State (1).
I don't see us beating the 1, 2, and 3 seeds in three straight days. That would be a run for the ages.
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there probably is alot of Pac 12 drek vying for the NIT since they will only be getting two schools in the NCAA
To me the path is getting the 9 seed.
-The first game is either Illinois or Minnesota,
-The second game is Michigan State who I think wants nothing to do with this tournament this year
-Next is probably the winner of Wisconsin and Maryland, hoping for Wisky
-We avoid Michigan and Purdue until the finals, I absolutely don't want Purdue
-The first game is either Illinois or Minnesota,
-The second game is Michigan State who I think wants nothing to do with this tournament this year
-Next is probably the winner of Wisconsin and Maryland, hoping for Wisky
-We avoid Michigan and Purdue until the finals, I absolutely don't want Purdue
Thanks for the breakdown - dose of reality there. Its easy to forget how many D1 college teams there are - if I did the math correctly, 100 teams get in (68 NCAA + 32 NIT), but 251 teams stay home.
Assuming that the ncaa who owns used the NET ranking and the same criteria for selecting the remaking teams after the “auto NIT bid “ are accounted for...thinking you need to be about a NET ranking to feel good About being included
We are at 102 now
16-14 should get us around there
One win in the big ten tournament gets us to 17-15
That should be NIT bubble this year because the computers like the big ten
We are at 102 now
16-14 should get us around there
One win in the big ten tournament gets us to 17-15
That should be NIT bubble this year because the computers like the big ten
Win two of next three, win one in tournament and NIT or not, great season.
waiting for you to fire it up so we can see where things stand. I know you usually don't go to work for another week. May need to start a GoFund me to get you started earlier.
I think the perception of an up-and-coming team could help Rutgers get the nod, as opposed to a down-and-going team, if you will. I hope so, I'd love to see Rutgers in that bracket.
Case in point: last year Maryland was 19-13 but not selected for NIT. You guys are talking about your team getting in with a worse record. No disrespect intended at all, but I think the bar is lower (different?) for a team that hasn't been in the NCAA tournament for a while. They'd rather have some "new blood" than "the usual suspects who are having a down year."
Case in point: last year Maryland was 19-13 but not selected for NIT. You guys are talking about your team getting in with a worse record. No disrespect intended at all, but I think the bar is lower (different?) for a team that hasn't been in the NCAA tournament for a while. They'd rather have some "new blood" than "the usual suspects who are having a down year."
17-15 after the B10 tourney and we are in.
Any chance Maryland turned down the NIT last year? The B10 was screwed over for the NCAAs last year. Heck.. CVS turned it down for our women for similar reasons.
That is the absolute best possible outcome anyone realistic can even dream of at this point! And it would be quite a dramatic and successful ending to the season.
That would mean we go 4-2 over the last 6 games of meaningful conference competition with wins on the road. That type of run was unfathomable even just a month ago when PSU was our only conference road win, EVER in this league
jury duty today has put me behind, I wonder if I have it in me after all these years lol
I think Purdue snags the #1 overall seed in the B1G Tourney, so we need to stay at 10 or win three straight and take #7.
We may -PERHAPS- be a unique consideration for the NIT due to our location to MSG.
Most are correct in stating the criteria for an NIT bid has changed - but if the committee wanted this to be profitable they would give us more merit.
Most are correct in stating the criteria for an NIT bid has changed - but if the committee wanted this to be profitable they would give us more merit.
Short term YES. Medium and Long term they help.
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