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NJ 2023 football class

we used to have some very physical tennis practices back in HS.
 
There you go, I knew that would get some wrestlers blood flowing this morning. Sorry, back in my day you hit in practice, I watched some wrestling practices, I didn’t see many people getting hit.
Lol. You WATCHEDsome practices😂😂. Try cutting weight and wrestling a lot more contact than football and have to be in a lot better shape.
Btw- no girly shoulder pads or helmets👙🤣🤣
 
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if you start to take apart the top 10 in NJ this year, they break down to into 4’s (approx 6) and the balance are 3’s, you probably are not going to get more than 3 or so of the top ten in any year. Comes down to not enough available talent. Talking about probably needing/liking to have 5 or 6 4 stars or more if possible. It is clear that Nj doesn’t produce enough talent to stock a successful big ten team abd until you begin to win mor games than you lose recruiting is even harder. The obvious answer is Fl. Is key and usually produces over a 100 hundred P5 signees, Washington, Northern Va and Maryland are other areas we probably need to refruit more effectively.. we do a decent job in NY. But NY football is great and the top ten in NY is not as strong as Nj.
 
A lot of people thought that one of the big keys with Schiano was his ability to recruit Florida.
He got a number of interesting prospects from there in this class.
BTW, a number of my buds will tell you that recruiting is 90% of a head coaches job in college football.
 
A lot of people thought that one of the big keys with Schiano was his ability to recruit Florida.
He got a number of interesting prospects from there in this class.
BTW, a number of my buds will tell you that recruiting is 90% of a head coaches job in college football.
Are your buds head coaches? Seems really high but maybe it needs to be around that level.
 
You sound like wrestlers back in my day who would always argue their practices were the toughest. No sport takes a bigger toll on your body than football, sorry all you lacrosse players, just a fact.
Except that I am not saying that lax is more demanding than football. YOU are saying lax players and their parents are soft and it is an idiotic statement. And I say that having coached both and my son played both for years. He still plays lax but that's because he enjoys it more. If I showed you pictures of his arms after a tournament you'd understand why people think you're talking out of your ass.
 
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Except that I am not saying that lax is more demanding than football. YOU are saying lax players and their parents are soft and it is an idiotic statement. And I say that having coached both and my son played both for years. He still plays lax but that's because he enjoys it more. If I showed you pictures of his arms after a tournament you'd understand why people think you're talking out of your ass.
Again, someone with a reading comprehension problem. Yes, it was a complex sentence, but it shouldn't throw off fellow Rutgers grads. I started the sentence off by making the statement NJ students are soft, but then in the next phrase I corrected myself and stated it is really the parents. And that my friends is just a fact across the country, parents of 7th thru 12th grade students are steering their kids away from football because of fear of injuries, especially head injuries.

This is football board that should disturb the posters on this board who are here to discuss Rutgers football. It is somewhat hypocritical to come to this board to discuss someone's else's children playing football and risking their health while you either hold your kids back from playing football or argue other parents are correct in holding their kids back. Unfortunately, the way it works out is that upper middle and affluent white parents are the ones preventing their kids from playing football while at the same time those parents are promoting, rooting, and sometimes even booing working class and poor white and minority students who are playing the game.

As for lacrosse, great game, but sorry, it is simply not the same level of physical abuse on your body that you incur from playing football. You can play three or four lacrosse games in a week, you can't play more than one football game a week, that is why the college and pro players hate those Thursday night games after a Saturday or Sunday game.
 
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Again, someone with a reading comprehension problem. Yes, it was a complex sentence, but it shouldn't throw off fellow Rutgers grads. I started the sentence off by making the statement NJ students are soft, but then in the next phrase I corrected myself and stated it is really the parents. And that my friends is just a fact across the country, parents of 7th thru 12th grade students are steering their kids away from football because of fear of injuries, especially head injuries.

This is football board that should disturb the posters on this board who are here to discuss Rutgers football. It is somewhat hypocritical to come to this board to discuss someone's else's children playing football and risking their health while you either hold your kids back from playing football or argue other parents are correct in holding their kids back. Unfortunately, the way it works out is that upper middle and affluent white parents are the ones preventing their kids from playing football while at the same time those parents are promoting, rooting, and sometimes even booing working class and poor white and minority students who are playing the game.

As for lacrosse, great game, but sorry, it is simply not the same level of physical abuse on your body that you incur from playing football. You can play three or four lacrosse games in a week, you can't play more than one football game a week, that is why the college and pro players hate those Thursday night games after a Saturday or Sunday game.

3 or 4 lacrosse games a week???? In what universe.? I "only" go back 50+ years in playing/watching the sport and can tell you with 100% certainty that even at the JV high school level and from there on up nobody played 3-4 games a week. 2 was standard and that's been declining at the college level over the last 20 years.
 
3 or 4 lacrosse games a week???? In what universe.? I "only" go back 50+ years in playing/watching the sport and can tell you with 100% certainty that even at the JV high school level and from there on up nobody played 3-4 games a week. 2 was standard and that's been declining at the college level over the last 20 years.
Maryland played the conference championship 2 games in 3 days and also the national championship 2 games in 3 days, you couldn't do that in football, not even worthy of a discussion.
 
Again, someone with a reading comprehension problem. Yes, it was a complex sentence, but it shouldn't throw off fellow Rutgers grads. I started the sentence off by making the statement NJ students are soft, but then in the next phrase I corrected myself and stated it is really the parents. And that my friends is just a fact across the country, parents of 7th thru 12th grade students are steering their kids away from football because of fear of injuries, especially head injuries.

This is football board that should disturb the posters on this board who are here to discuss Rutgers football. It is somewhat hypocritical to come to this board to discuss someone's else's children playing football and risking their health while you either hold your kids back from playing football or argue other parents are correct in holding their kids back. Unfortunately, the way it works out is that upper middle and affluent white parents are the ones preventing their kids from playing football while at the same time those parents are promoting, rooting, and sometimes even booing working class and poor white and minority students who are playing the game.

As for lacrosse, great game, but sorry, it is simply not the same level of physical abuse on your body that you incur from playing football. You can play three or four lacrosse games in a week, you can't play more than one football game a week, that is why the college and pro players hate those Thursday night games after a Saturday or Sunday game.
Steering a kid away from football for fear of head injuries does not make them soft. Geez.
 
Steering a kid away from football for fear of head injuries does not make them soft. Geez.
Then who is left to play, just working class and poor kids whose parents aren't as involved in their lives or are uneducated as to the risks? And then why are we here on this board as educated men and women rooting on these kids who are taking such risks. The whole thing sounds pretty hypocritical to me.
 
Back to the original point: NJ kids still play football, but no one has answered the question off why the State produces so few (or no) 4 and 5 star players. I ask this of those posters here who claim that we need to retain more NJ recruits.
That may be true but it seemed like Rutgers would rather get the out of state 3 stars than get the Nj three stars this season.
 
Then who is left to play, just working class and poor kids whose parents aren't as involved in their lives or are uneducated as to the risks? And then why are we here on this board as educated men and women rooting on these kids who are taking such risks. The whole thing sounds pretty hypocritical to me.
I think your whole argument is off point. Regardless, “soft” is the wrong word. Maybe parents are more concerned with their kids’ safety and aware of the dangers so nudge their kids in the direction of another sport.
 
Maryland played the conference championship 2 games in 3 days and also the national championship 2 games in 3 days, you couldn't do that in football.

True. But if I remember my grade school arithmetic correctly both 3 and 4 are larger than 2. And Maryland certainly didn't play 3 more games the week after those respective tournaments.
 
Again, someone with a reading comprehension problem. Yes, it was a complex sentence, but it shouldn't throw off fellow Rutgers grads. I started the sentence off by making the statement NJ students are soft, but then in the next phrase I corrected myself and stated it is really the parents. And that my friends is just a fact across the country, parents of 7th thru 12th grade students are steering their kids away from football because of fear of injuries, especially head injuries.

This is football board that should disturb the posters on this board who are here to discuss Rutgers football. It is somewhat hypocritical to come to this board to discuss someone's else's children playing football and risking their health while you either hold your kids back from playing football or argue other parents are correct in holding their kids back. Unfortunately, the way it works out is that upper middle and affluent white parents are the ones preventing their kids from playing football while at the same time those parents are promoting, rooting, and sometimes even booing working class and poor white and minority students who are playing the game.

As for lacrosse, great game, but sorry, it is simply not the same level of physical abuse on your body that you incur from playing football. You can play three or four lacrosse games in a week, you can't play more than one football game a week, that is why the college and pro players hate those Thursday night games after a Saturday or Sunday game.
Again, someone with a reading comprehension problem. You chose the wrong sports to illustrate your ignorance. We get it. You had moderate to no football success but you "played" it long before lax was widespread in NJ and now you think you know a thing or two. And to bring wrestling into this highlights your idiocy. A sport that is so demanding it is a lifestyle not just a commitment. You want to say something like football is a collision sport and wrestling/lax are contact sports then we can agree.
 
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Maryland played the conference championship 2 games in 3 days and also the national championship 2 games in 3 days, you couldn't do that in football, not even worthy of a discussion.
You know this happens in tournament play in Florida every year in football right?
 
You know this happens in tournament play in Florida every year in football right?
I can't account for stupidity, and of course you are talking about Florida. Does it happen in NJ, NY, PA, and does it happen at any level of college football?
 
Again, someone with a reading comprehension problem. You chose the wrong sports to illustrate your ignorance. We get it. You had moderate to no football success but you "played" it long before lax was widespread in NJ and now you think you know a thing or two. And to bring wrestling into this highlights your idiocy. A sport that is so demanding it is a lifestyle not just a commitment. You want to say something like football is a collision sport and wrestling/lax are contact sports then we can agree.
OMG, wrestlers can be so defensive. But yes, football is a collision sport and basketball/lacrosse/wrestling are contact sports.
 
I can't account for stupidity, and of course you are talking about Florida. Does it happen in NJ, NY, PA, and does it happen at any level of college football?
Well it happens nationwide since that is where the youth national championships are determined. NJ just crowned a 14U champion who beat Las Vegas, Michigan and Central Florida. That's right, three games in 6 days.
 
Well it happens nationwide since that is where the youth national championships are determined. NJ just crowned a 14U champion who beat Las Vegas, Michigan and Central Florida. That's right, three games in 6 days.
That is at the HS and college level?

And I just looked it up on Google some of these youth lacrosse leagues play multiple games a day over a two or three day tournament, so that kind of puts this whole discussion into perspective.
 
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Another wrestling/football guy checking in.

Perhaps if a word other than "soft", which is a) rather insulting and b) inaccurate, was used, there wouldn't be such a reaction.

Yes, there are brutal collisions in football that you don't see (or feel) in other sports. Those hurt. It's incomparable to the other sports mentioned, that's for sure. On the other hand, if one checks out any wrestling tournament, there are plenty of bruises and black eyes, and injured competitors to be seen.

There's much more to evaluating the "non-softness" of a sport than recognizing that there are collisions.

Overall, it's laughable to claim that wrestling, for example, is a "soft" sport compared to football. After football practice I showered up, went home, ate everything I wanted, and rested up. After wrestling practice I showered, weighed in, suffered through a tiny meal with minimum hydration, and woke up and did it all again the next day. It's not just a sport, it's a grueling lifestyle. Wrestling is much tougher to do, and probably less "fun" but also more rewarding, at least for me.

Yeah, the CTE thing has definitely scared people away from football. I wish that could be solved because I love football. But it isn't "softness" causing that. It's "thought" and "priorities."

p.s. Ha ha, you are right, RUforLife -- us wrestlers are annoyingly defensive...
 
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