because we have a shaky small fanbase that had one year of relevance. The other Big 10 schools had success at some level and years to get used to nooners.
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because we have a shaky small fanbase that had one year of relevance. The other Big 10 schools had success at some level and years to get used to nooners.
No, it's because we have a whiny, entitled fan base.
If all our games were at 3:30 people would be complaining and not buying season tickets (or threatening to :scream:) for a different set of reasons - too close to Saturday dinner, don't want to drive home in the dark, missing reruns of the A-Team, my nipples get hard in the late-afternoon chill,...
there is nothing entitled about a fanbase that supports a program that has basically had one relevant season since 1976. Its just that its a young and small fanbase and we have a smaller number of hardcores than any other big time school simply because the program lacks seasons and wins of importance
That's a fine point, but for one thing: Our fan base is 100 percent entitled, over-opinionated and whiny, right down to many of the hardest of hardcores (that sounds durrty).
Now that doesn't apply to every fan, and there's certainly a segment that's new and not fully ingrained, but overall ... whiners gon' whine.
This idea that B1G means noon starts is silly. The B1G has guaranteed TV slots with multiple channels. Crap teams get noon slots. Want better TV placement..... just win.
That notion was already debunked on Page 2.
Based on the info posted, RU has the same number of noon games as Ohio State, Michigan and Nebraska, and less than Iowa.
get used to not having 4 hours plus of tailgating...that many will be coming in after kickoff....we will have 5 nooners this year..thats alot...zero 330 games and two 8 pm games
yup. I think the difference is most of their noon games aren't against B1G teams. Again, win and you play your conference games at 3:30 or night. OSU and Michigan for example tend to play OOC teams at noon in addition to their HC game.
Yet another week where families can't make the games on time or at all. How does a family who lives in Sparta,Toms River,Cherry Hill,Egg Harbor,Blairstown,etc. and their kids practices/games end at 11:30 get to a Noon game ? Enough of this,I want Tulane,SMU,UConn,etc. at 3:30 !!!
Nycfootballfan,
No, I would NEVER want to go back to the AAC,no matter what happens in the Big Ten.
No, I would NEVER want to go back to the AAC,no matter what happens in the Big Ten.
So why is it that Michigan and Nebraska play their games at 2:30pm while both Michigan State and Ohio State play their games at 6:30pm this week? Its because they are the premier teams in the league. The networks that want to pick up a game want premier teams in those TV time slots, they will take lesser games for Noon TV
Its just the way the schedule worked out this week. Why is it Rutgers has the 2nd most night games in the conference since we've joined? Surely has nothing to do with record.
I agree, the 330 ABC slot is the premiere one for the B1G. That's it. The next best games will be spread out so not to compete with it and maximize ratings. That means good teams will also play at noon.
BTN isn't going to put their "premiere" game at 330 if ABC'S premiere game is 330.
I live almost two hours from Iowa City. I actually do not mind the 11 o'clock games. Of course you guys get noon games which is even better. I could go for noon games.
The problem with 230 (330 for you] games is it destroys your entire Saturday.
If I leave my house at 5am I am tailgating easily by 7am for the 11am start. Game is over by 2ish and home by 5 ir 6 and still have the evening with the family or can watch more games.
You guys actually have it better than all of us Midwest fans. You get an hour longer to tailgate than we do and that hour on the back end doesn't make much of a difference.
Not trying to be a dick but stop whining and embrace it.
Even if Rutgers started winning to the level of Iowa or Wisconsin or MSU, you are still going to have a ton of noon starts.
You can whine and find more things to be outraged about or you can pull up your big boy britches and deal with it positively
The problem with 230 (330 for you] games is it destroys your entire Saturday.
If I leave my house at 5am I am tailgating easily by 7am for the 11am start. Game is over by 2ish and home by 5 ir 6 and still have the evening with the family or can watch more games.
You guys actually have it better than all of us Midwest fans. You get an hour longer to tailgate than we do and that hour on the back end doesn't make much of a difference.
Not trying to be a dick but stop whining and embrace it.
Even if Rutgers started winning to the level of Iowa or Wisconsin or MSU, you are still going to have a ton of noon starts.
You can whine and find more things to be outraged about or you can pull up your big boy britches and deal with it positively
Could be worse for you. Could be like about 30% of the Nebraska fans that travel on game day to the games. It's a 10:00am start for them as the Westerner half of Nebraska is Mountain time zone.
Love that another team's fan has so quickly realized our fans need a kick in the backside. Hopefully, this'll help folks realize the impression they give the outside world.
30% v 95 % of RU fans that arrive on Game Day.
Also checked Nebraska's starting times this year and saw 7:00, 2:30, 6:30, 2:30, 2:30, 6:00. 7:00 and 6:30.
30% come from the Mountain time zone, not 30% total fans come to town on gameday. About 95% of NU fans arrive on gameday. It probably breaks down about like this:
20% from 0-50 miles
40% from 51-100 miles
30% from 101-250 miles
10% from 250 miles+
Them are one way miles.
There are not enough rooms in Lincoln for more than about 5000 fans. Plus on game weekends rooms run from $190 per night to be on opposite end of town to $400 per night to be close to stadium and they all have a 2 night minimum. So hotels alone can run you from $380-800 plus tax for a game.
11:00 or 7:00 game makes no difference. Tailgate early and after for an early game or start a little later and quit a little later for a late one. But NU people are there for the football game regardless of opponent, not the tailgate. I travel 225 miles each way to go to a home game. Sometimes I stay sometime down and back.
Having driven 80 many a time those miles are far easier than NJ driving. Will say it again RU has the highest percentage of its fans arriving on actual game day.
I like how the teams from other schools like Nebraska and Iowa like to tell us how our noon starts are not so bad and then you see their schedules are infinitely better time wise.
Nobody else is giving up a home game to play in a baseball stadium either. And we have already played in the same stadium on three prior occassions and we are not allowed to voice any obection?
I like how the teams from other schools like Nebraska and Iowa like to tell us how our noon starts are not so bad and then you see their schedules are infinitely better time wise.
Nobody else is giving up a home game to play in a baseball stadium either. And we have already played in the same stadium on three prior occassions and we are not allowed to voice any obection?
Go ahead and stick with your "poor me" additude and the rest of us will adjust and go to the games and if we want to tailgate we will adjust our times for leaving accordingly. I never stated we liked the 11:00am kick offs. I just said we make it work because it's about the game not the tailgate.
Your high % of people that come in on game day is great. It's still 40,000 less people than what come in on game day in Lincoln so you % arguement is a little weak IMO.
A very large portion of our fanbase will always have this "poor us" mentality. Very sad.
Seriously, stfu.
You're probably the biggest whiner on this whole board.
Don't go then; you won't be missed. Probably cry all game about food prices and halftime bathroom lines, too.
No poor me at all. RU fans allowed to bicker/ argue among selves. Dont need other fans of other schools $.02. It's a RU message board.
As to the head in the sand, all is well crowd, Kool aid drinkers, guessing you were all happy with Julie, Kyle, Littlepage, Eddie, Terry, Fred, etc. Look in a mirror before you starting cursing out other RU fans.
As to the head in the sand, all is well crowd, Kool aid drinkers, guessing you were all happy with Julie, Kyle, Littlepage, Eddie, Terry, Fred, etc. Look in a mirror before you starting cursing out other RU fans.
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Agreed, I think we can safely say that for almost any program in the country, 90-95% of fans probably come and go on game day. Not sure Rutgers can necessarily claim being #1 in highest % of local attendees...perhaps, but who knows. It's probably marginal difference from any other program thus it's not likely to be a meaningful differentiator. You cite some interesting figures that are potentially more revealing. Not sure if there is any estimates of comparable Rutgers fan data though the 0-50 mile range might be closer to 1/3 or even 1/2 for Rutgers, and combined with 51-100 range, it's probably 80-90%. Many fans are not coming from that far in Rutgers case, after all almost all of NJ is a very dense/developed area so there's a substantial population base spread throughout the region (and across state lines in all directions).
My drive is about 200 miles one-way coming up to NJ from the south (Maryland) on the 'congested' I-95 corridor but like the other poster tried to do I wouldn't discount your travel or claim some superiority about NJ (or northeast/midatlantic) miles vs. midwest/plains miles because drive times overall are probably a wash in most cases. It's basically 3+ hours for me as I probably average 65mph (driving at 75-80 on highways). Most times I drive further, probably 230 each way, because I usually stay over the night before/after at my parents' house which is 40 miles north of New Brunswick and then drive back down on game day.
I'm usually good for a 'day trip' Rutgers home game at least once a year regardless of game/kickoff time due to personal or family circumstances, the alternative being that I'd miss that game and I don't like to do that. Those are tough as its probably 6.5 hours of driving and makes for a long day. But whatever, people will usually do what they have to do for the things in life that matter to them or they are passionate about. My wife thinks I'm crazy but she supports my fandom and joins me quite often for someone who grew up with little affinity for sports.
The one thing I think everyone can agree on is that attendance for tomorrow's game, and probably the rest of the season, will be downright awful.
If we start winning, it's not going to change the fact that Rutgers is the easternmost team in the league.
I wish they would stagger start time by an hour. That way if a game begins to be a blow out you got another one to turn on or you can watch the closing minutes of multiple close game.
I stand by that. Have been to many a B1G stadium and RU much more of a day of the game arriving crowd. Only ones even close are the City schools. BC and Miami come to mind. But guessing those fans are making a weekend of it and staying over night more so than RU. Temple and USF but RU has way more fans.
So if you are not buying it at all, give me an example.
So in other words, you have nothing to back up your statement. Ok.
Typical Rutgers fans who b*tch just about anything:
You just won the lotto for $200 million. First thing out of his or her mouth, "This money is going to be the death of me. I'' be taxed to death. How shall I spend my money and on what? I'll should just give it away. I'm better off broke."
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You just won the lotto for $200 million. First thing out of his or her mouth, "This money is going to be the death of me. I'' be taxed to death. How shall I spend my money and on what? I'll should just give it away. I'm better off broke."
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