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RUtix4me

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Today's article all fine and good on whar comes next. The he adds the totally unnecessary sentence:

"The short break at the end of the semester is a stressful time for coaches. In each of the past to offseasons, a Rutgers player was charged with a felony and kicked off the team while home for break" .

What does that have to with whats next? Stick to football Douchegan. He also takes a separate quote from Ashe, and puts it immediately after that paragraph. Typical SL.. No link i have coted his work.
 
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He is writng about whats next after spring ball. He is a football reporter discussing training. Mi recognize it happened, but honestly the arrests have nothing to do with what the next steps are in preparing for the 16 season.

It happened, don't deny it. But this is just anoth sl cheap shot for need.
 
So Ash is delivering a message of accountability to the players and noting they need to watch the situations/crowds they find themselves in. A reporter (and not just him) is reporting on that. Ash is delivering that message due to our past issues. Said reporter is setting context as to why Ash is delivering this message.

What exactly is wrong here? Should we just bury our heads in the sand? Some people need tougher skin.
 
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The only cure for that is time. The longer we go from that experience without any issues, the less people will connect Rutgers football with those incidents.

You don't think coaches all over America don't worry about what their players do when they are out of their sight? And these things happened IN New Brunswick.

No issue at all with this. Changing coaches doesn't guarantee kids don't get in trouble. Only the kids can do that.

Funny how people who claim not to read the Ledger can't wait to share what they read.
 
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Duggan is reminding us as spring football season ends spring felony season begins. Look at Baylor. Hopefully under the new regime this "season" will pass quietly and without incident on the banks.
 
The problem with these so called "sportswriters" like duggan is they are so fast to point out our CBs were 118th in pass defense BUT they never point out we were #1 in the nation for CB arrests.:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
 
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RUchip said:
It's a few days after spring practice and the one year anniversary of 6 players getting arrested.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought they weren't arrested until Thursday, September 3rd (2 days before our first game) when Tejay Johnson rolled on them.
 
I viewed it as a positive showing the difference between the lack of control during the prior regime and the total control under Ash. It shows we are getting our house in order.
 
Some people are so emotionally invested about meaningless stuff that I don't know how they bother to lead productive lives.

You're not a douche for mentioning the past, in the context of discussing a new approach.
 
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I don't see what the problem is. He is giving his opinion and then giving you factual information to support it.
 
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The only cure for that is time. The longer we go from that experience without any issues, the less people will connect Rutgers football with those incidents.

You don't think coaches all over America don't worry about what their players do when they are out of their sight? And these things happened IN New Brunswick.

No issue at all with this. Changing coaches doesn't guarantee kids don't get in trouble. Only the kids can do that.

Funny how people who claim not to read the Ledger can't wait to share what they read.
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When did i claim to not read the Ledger? I never signed the silly pledge here not to read. Even if I disagree with the SL, I would not pleadge to ignore it. Or think that the clicks from this group matter
 
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I love these threads where the same people get their panties in a bunch over nothing!
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Ah like the season long baseball thread..."this thread is not heading the way I wanted it to".......lmao you of all people saying someone got in a twist. Its a daily event with you..."lets have an entire where I complain that I was banned"......
 
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Why can't our fans acknowledge that Flood totally ruined the clean reputation we once had and that Ash is trying to fix it?

I think there is a real problem in the US where the media accurately explains something but people whine because the truth hurts. The truth is Flood had multiple felons around. We need to acknowledge and move past.
 
I think people are missing my point. I acknowledge what happened, i don't deny it. The question is; is there a need for the SL to take multiple articles and twist them into "soundbite" about the incidents. I like the way Dunleavy does it, he rights an article about the issue, the title is the focus. In Duggan's case it is an article about what is next, but some how it jumps to what happened two years ago, and doesn't even portray it correctly.

I get it it happened, but will you guys be happy if he throws two sentences into every article, just for the sake it? Also when read about the dailey case, he eventually plead guilty to excessory after the fact....meanng he was the dumb sucker driving the truck from which his acquaintance committed a crime.

So maybe we just set back and let Douchegan write about this in every article...because it happened.
 
NotInRHouse said:
Why can't our fans acknowledge that Flood totally ruined the clean reputation we once had and that Ash is trying to fix it?

I think there is a real problem in the US where the media accurately explains something but people whine because the truth hurts. The truth is Flood had multiple felons around. We need to acknowledge and move past.
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Well, not for nothing, but Flood did always say he was going to bring a championship to the Banks. He certainly did deliver one Fulmer Cup championship...
 
RUtix4me said:
some how it jumps to what happened two years ago, and doesn't even portray it correctly.
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Look it up. The parking spot fight was on 4/25, the home invasions 4/27 and 5/1, and later in May Dailey was arrested in Florida for armed robbery. So that's five players and a former player involved in four separate crimes in a period of maybe 2-3 weeks last spring. So who is really the douche, the six criminals and their criminal coach or the guy pointing out how different the message is this year?
 
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NotInRHouse said:
Why can't our fans acknowledge that Flood totally ruined the clean reputation we once had and that Ash is trying to fix it?

I think there is a real problem in the US where the media accurately explains something but people whine because the truth hurts. The truth is Flood had multiple felons around. We need to acknowledge and move past.
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And most of the recruits that got in trouble he inherited.
 
czxqa said:
Look it up. The parking spot fight was on 4/25, the home invasions 4/27 and 5/1, and later in May Dailey was arrested in Florida for armed robbery. So that's five players and a former player involved in four separate crimes in a period of maybe 2-3 weeks last spring. So who is really the douche, the six criminals and their criminal coach or the guy pointing out how different the message is this year?
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So look at what you wrote and look at what Duggan wrote. But hey if people have no problem with them rehashing this in every article fine. Can't wait for the articles on how many decommits we've had the last two yes as the program moves forward....rehashing the past will help us all know it happened.
 
I'll just state the obvious : I don't like the Star Ledger and that paper and NJO.com will have to prove that they will cover RU fairly instead of making mountains out of molehills like they spun Rutgers problems in the past.
That said, bringing up Floods program and it's troubles might not be making a mountain out of a molehill because what happened last year off the field is something that Ash has to address this year in order to make sure the players know how they must conduct themselves at all times to make sure their actions don't make Rutgers look bad .
 
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It's absolutely true. This is the one period of time where coaches have minimal contact/control over their players and also one of the most fun times to be on campus with parties and warm weather and some exuberant seniors leaving and others headed away for the summer.
 
NotInRHouse said:
Why can't our fans acknowledge that Flood totally ruined the clean reputation we once had and that Ash is trying to fix it?

I think there is a real problem in the US where the media accurately explains something but people whine because the truth hurts. The truth is Flood had multiple felons around. We need to acknowledge and move past.
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WOAH there nelly! They have also done their fair share of not accurately reporting things to support their agenda of negative stories in order to get clicks. This is just more of the same negative slant. Because they see value in perpetuating negative stories in order to generate clicks for advertising dollars.
nj.com is a business along the lines of the National Enquirer, not a respectable media outlet. Their parent company the Star Ledger was once a respectable media outlet when Izzenberg and Lucci wrote for them. However I'm sad to say they no longer hold that prestige. Manahan has chosen the directive, be the 1st get the story out, facts be damned, don't vet sources(takes too much time) and negative stories sell. It's a shame, it used to be my favorite paper growing up, but Kevin saw fit to destroy that. I believe Lucci saw this directive coming and decided it was time to leave. Lucci was tough on RU but fair, nj.com has now become absurd with their narrative.
 
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That sentence in bold isn't even accurate. Hopefully Duggan doesn't forget the goal, to change the culture of Rutgers football. The media has a big part in that.
 
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WOAH there nelly! They have also done their fair share of not accurately reporting things to support their agenda of negative stories in order to get clicks. This is just more of the same negative slant. Because they see value in perpetuating negative stories in order to generate clicks for advertising dollars.
nj.com is a business along the lines of the National Enquirer, not a respectable media outlet. Their parent company the Star Ledger was once a respectable media outlet when Izzenberg and Lucci wrote for them. However I'm sad to say they no longer hold that prestige. Manahan has chosen the directive, be the 1st get the story out, facts be damned, don't vet sources(takes too much time) and negative stories sell. It's a shame, it used to be my favorite paper growing up, but Kevin saw fit to destroy that. I believe Lucci saw this directive coming and decided it was time to leave. Lucci was tough on RU but fair, nj.com has now become absurd with their narrative.
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I was vocal in criticizing them when they slanted coverage (for example at one point arguing that we were purposely injuring opposing QBs), however, RU gave the SL so much material last season that they could have just published the police reports and the special investigation and written nothing more and we'd have been cooked.

Was there anything incorrect in what they said here? It is basically in line with what Ash said and what Schiano preached.
 
RUtix4me said:
Today's article all fine and good on whar comes next. The he adds the totally unnecessary sentence:

"The short break at the end of the semester is a stressful time for coaches. In each of the past to offseasons, a Rutgers player was charged with a felony and kicked off the team while home for break" .

What does that have to with whats next? Stick to football Douchegan. He also takes a separate quote from Ashe, and puts it immediately after that paragraph. Typical SL.. No link i have coted his work.
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I think it's a fair point. College coaches publicly say that their biggest fear is what their players do when they leave the building and are not supervised. It's their biggest fear because what their players do even outside of the football building has consequences for the coach.
 
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