Offensive stats that we are the worst in the nation...

[rutgers4life11]

Team stat rankings according to teamrankings.com (out of 128 teams):

Points/game: #128
Yards/game: #128
Yards/play: #128
Points/play: #128
Yards/pass: #128

Other offensive stats top 10 worst in nation:
3rd down%: #125
Redzone scoring: #118
Yards/rush: #121
Pass yards/game: #126
completion %: #126


This is quite possibly the worst offense in Rutgers history, from a strictly statistical perspective.

 

[RUforlife]

Wow, when you see those #s you start to realize what a hole Ash has to dig out of in the next few years.

 

[RUchip]

Good thing is we can't be worse next year. It's literally impossible to be worse than last

 

[Jonb127]

Wow, when you see those #s you start to realize what a hole Ash has to dig out of in the next few years.

Wow, when you see those #s you start to question if the OC has any clue what he's doing.

 

[MorrisAsh]

I haven't watched every play of every game (skipped the 2nd halves of the blowouts) but I don't think RU has run more than 10 different plays on O in any given game, especially since Grant went down. So RU isn't fooling anyone with play selection, but yesterday they did seem to be a bit better on the execution front yesterday (prob due to the level of competition).

One would hope that you'd see incremental growth in the stripped down Power spread package. Not seeing yet. That's on the coaches for not properly teaching the minutia of technique but it is also on the players. The relative talent/experience may not be there. Here are the 3 most important cogs in the power spread, in rank of importance. You tell me if we have BiG level talent there:
1)QB
2) RG & LG
3) RB

We have middle of the pack BiG talent at RB so we should be better than last in the nation on offense. It's on the coaches. Also they need to pick next year's QB (it's not Laviano) now and let him play the rest of the year.

 

[RU#1fan]

Good thing is we can't be worse next year. It's literally impossible to be worse than last

It might be worse if we don't hire a new Offensive Coordinator .

 

[Knight Shift]

It may also have something to do with playing 3 of the top 5 teams in the nation. Take a prozac.

Oh, and we are not last. Vanderbilt is last. That's because Franklin left the cupboard bare over there.

But let's look at total offense, shall we?
298 yards per game.
Let's take the Illinois, Iowa and Washington games. (note I am leaving out New Mexico and Howard).
Illinois- 387 yards
Iowa- 383 yards
Washington-304 yards
Average- 358 yards/game
Now, the TDs and points scored is a problem

Now let's look at Maryland over the last 2 games:
Minnesota- 291 yards, 10 points
Penn State- 270 yards, 14 points.

Do you think it has something to do with the level of the competition? When Maryland played two teams with a pulse (and not elite teams) they SUCKED.
Michigan is #1 in total defense, allowing 212 yards per game.
Ohio State is #6, allowing 280 yards per game.
Washington is #18 and Iowa is #46
Washington allows 14.2 points per game, Michigan 10.3, Ohio State 12.8, Iowa 19.1.

 

[RU#1fan]

Stop with this BS.
Two frick'n TDs over the last 18 Qtrs.
That's a stretch of 4 and one Half games with 2 TDs.
It's a laughing stock right now around CFB.

Get your head out of the stand and stop denying it.

 

[RUfromSoCal?]

so, if Kyle Flood had done, literally, ZERO recruiting over the last 4 years - we'd still be 128th?

yup, can't be the coaching....

 

[AreYouNUTS]

I'm pretty sure Schiano's D was just as bad in Year 1. People need a little perspective as to where and what we are right now. This was going to be a BAD team, with a BAD O, no matter who was OC this season.

I also wonder if half this board realized we out-gained Illinois by 65 yards, and held them to just 320, yesterday.

 

[RUskoolie]

so, literally, if Kyle Flood had done ZERO recruiting over the last 4 years - we'd still be 128th?

yup, can't be the coaching....

400 yards of offense yesterday

5 turnovers

Please explain how that's on the coaches. I'll hang up and listen.

 

[R U Crazy]

I thought the offense looked decent yesterday.
Turnovers lost us the game.
A tipped pass that lead to a pick 6 (Potential 10 to 14 point swing).

I haven't questioned the staff yet, but if CL comes out as the starting QB next week, I will be upset.

insanity is trying the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

 

[rutgers4life11]

I love how some forumers are literally trying to justify being LAST... and that yesterday's offensive performance against one of the worst defenses in college football was somehow good.

On the point of our competition... of course, it's been tough, but also in 3 of those games, backups played for almost the entire 2nd half. And half of our games were against 3 really, really bad teams.

There's no excusing the job Mehringer has done. I'm sorry. The stats don't lie. On the flip side, some ratings for various defensive categories are actually pretty good. We're showing improvement there and about where we should be as a B1G program under a rebuild, and those stats all still include the same blowouts. No, these offensive rankings are the worst in Rutgers history, and amazingly, far worse than last year.

 

[rutgers4life11]

It may also have something to do with playing 3 of the top 5 teams in the nation. Take a prozac.

Oh, and we are not last. Vanderbilt is last. That's because Franklin left the cupboard bare over there.

But let's look at total offense, shall we?
298 yards per game.
Let's take the Illinois, Iowa and Washington games. (note I am leaving out New Mexico and Howard).
Illinois- 387 yards
Iowa- 383 yards
Washington-304 yards
Average- 358 yards/game
Now, the TDs and points scored is a problem

Now let's look at Maryland over the last 2 games:
Minnesota- 291 yards, 10 points
Penn State- 270 yards, 14 points.

Do you think it has something to do with the level of the competition? When Maryland played two teams with a pulse (and not elite teams) they SUCKED.
Michigan is #1 in total defense, allowing 212 yards per game.
Ohio State is #6, allowing 280 yards per game.
Washington is #18 and Iowa is #46
Washington allows 14.2 points per game, Michigan 10.3, Ohio State 12.8, Iowa 19.1.

You do realize there are 128 schools in division 1 college football, right?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCAA_Division_I_FBS_football_programs

Others may forget you religiously defending Kyle Flood up to the bitter end, so not exactly surprised you've found excuses to defend being statistically last in every single major offensive category.

I want to see the bright side in this from Drew's perspective, because he seems like a good kid... but at the end of the day, there's really no argument for being this historically bad. We're statistically worse than every sun belt, aac, MWC, conference USA and mid american team! And those guys got beat up by great teams too.

With a new OC and our already statistically improving defense, we could actually be a decent team next year. But offense is such a glaring issue right now... you'd have to be high on prozac to not be aware of it.

 

[MS-RU]

Some people can't face facts. Literally.

 

[RUfromSoCal?]

400 yards of offense yesterday

5 turnovers

Please explain how that's on the coaches. I'll hang up and listen.

My fantasy league gives me points for yards........... the real world don't.

I'm not giving up (I haven't for 36 years of being a fan).... but 128 out of 128 don't lie....

 

[Knight Shift]

You do realize there are 128 schools in division 1 college football, right?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCAA_Division_I_FBS_football_programs

Others may forget you religiously defending Kyle Flood up to the bitter end, so not exactly surprised you've found excuses to defend being statistically last in every single major offensive category.

I want to see the bright side in this from Drew's perspective, because he seems like a good kid... but at the end of the day, there's really no argument for being this historically bad. We're statistically worse than every sun belt, aac, MWC, conference USA and mid american team! And those guys got beat up by great teams too.

With a new OC and our already statistically improving defense, we could actually be a decent team next year. But offense is such a glaring issue right now... you'd have to be high on prozac to not be aware of it.

If you are going to call someone out, get your facts straight. No need to be obnoxious, but it's too late for you. I defend whoever the University administration has named our head coach, so get over yourself, Dick Tracy.
So you take my defending the poor offensive output as defending Kyle Flood? Brilliant!

Here are stats right from the NCAA website, and I don't know where you got your stats from. Maybe they are different somewhere else, but I trust the NCAA stats. You are 0/3 here:

YPG
http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/21/p3
What does the link say?
Vanderbilt is last at 128. That's an SEC team. Rutgers is 127. Nobody said there were 129 teams.

PPG:
http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/27/p3
Rutgers is 125. South Carolina is 128. That's an SEC team

Yards Per Completion:
http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/741/p3
Rutgers is 115. Duke, Vanderbilt, BYU, Washington State, Rice, and Oregon State are all below Rutgers. And WSU just beat UCLA and are tied for first place in the PAC12 North. Sucks to be them.

Keep on whining. I'll look at the bright side of things--there always is one. Try looking at it sometime. You will feel better.

 

[hiwater]

Wow, when you see those #s you start to realize what a hole Ash has to dig out of in the next few years.

Your trying to suggest that our personnel is so bad that he needs 3 years of recruiting to dig us out. That's BS. We have more talent than Iowa or Illinois and as much or more than 3 of the next 5 teams we play. A good coach will make adjustments with the game plan and personnel to fit his talent. I see big a hole that his personnel decisions helped dig us into. He is a little slow or too stubborn to make needed changes when things aren't going right ie QB Play.

 

[Knight Shift]

Your trying to suggest that our personnel is so bad that he needs 3 years of recruiting to dig us out. That's BS. We have more talent than Iowa or Illinois and as much or more than 3 of the next 5 teams we play. A good coach will make adjustments with the game plan and personnel to fit his talent. I see big a hole that his personnel decisions helped dig us into.

I just see a big a hole.

 

[waretown]

I'm pretty sure Schiano's D was just as bad in Year 1. People need a little perspective as to where and what we are right now. This was going to be a BAD team, with a BAD O, no matter who was OC this season.

I also wonder if half this board realized we out-gained Illinois by 65 yards, and held them to just 320, yesterday.

and we lost by 17, whats the big deal about out gaining an opponent , you have to outscore the opponent

 

[JQRU91]

We've played four conference games so far. In those games, we've scored a total of 14 points. That comes out to a little over a field goal a game. That's pretty ugly.

 

[Knight Shift]

hiwater, I fully agree with what you said in your post that I quoted. Anyway, I was joking because your post said big a hole, when it should have said "a big hole." Everybody is so angry around here lately. Wonder why?

 

[hiwater]

I just see a big a hole.

Sorry. I deleted it

 

[RUskoolie]

Your trying to suggest that our personnel is so bad that he needs 3 years of recruiting to dig us out. That's BS. We have more talent than Iowa or Illinois and as much or more than 3 of the next 5 teams we play. A good coach will make adjustments with the game plan and personnel to fit his talent. I see big a hole that his personnel decisions helped dig us into. He is a little slow or too stubborn to make needed changes when things aren't going right ie QB Play.

Lol no. Are you this thick headed? And wth are you talking about he doesn't make changes at QB? Please list the last year RU played FOUR different QBs. Please list who on our offense starts for Iowa.

 

[DanceAppreciationTA]

Your trying to suggest that our personnel is so bad that he needs 3 years of recruiting to dig us out. That's BS. We have more talent than Iowa or Illinois and as much or more than 3 of the next 5 teams we play. A good coach will make adjustments with the game plan and personnel to fit his talent. I see big a hole that his personnel decisions helped dig us into. He is a little slow or too stubborn to make needed changes when things aren't going right ie QB Play.

Spot on!!

 

[Knight Shift]

Lol no. Are you this thick headed? And wth are you talking about he doesn't make changes at QB? Please list the last year RU played FOUR different QBs. Please list who on our offense starts for Iowa.

What's with the insult?. Can't someone express their opinion without getting ripped here?

Spot on!!

Geez, don't know who is right here, you or the one above you.

 

[RUskoolie]

What's with the insult?. Can't someone express their opinion without getting ripped here?


Geez, don't know who is right here, you or the one above you.

If you come off sounding like a moron, I will call a spade a spade. The loudest people on this board are the most clueless. Which is twice as frustrating.

 

[rutgers4life11]

If you are going to call someone out, get your facts straight. No need to be obnoxious, but it's too late for you. I defend whoever the University administration has named our head coach, so get over yourself, Dick Tracy.
So you take my defending the poor offensive output as defending Kyle Flood? Brilliant!

Here are stats right from the NCAA website, and I don't know where you got your stats from. Maybe they are different somewhere else, but I trust the NCAA stats. You are 0/3 here:

YPG
http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/21/p3
What does the link say?
Vanderbilt is last at 128. That's an SEC team. Rutgers is 127. Nobody said there were 129 teams.

PPG:
http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/27/p3
Rutgers is 125. South Carolina is 128. That's an SEC team

Yards Per Completion:
http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/741/p3
Rutgers is 115. Duke, Vanderbilt, BYU, Washington State, Rice, and Oregon State are all below Rutgers. And WSU just beat UCLA and are tied for first place in the PAC12 North. Sucks to be them.

Keep on whining. I'll look at the bright side of things--there always is one. Try looking at it sometime. You will feel better.

What on earth are you even babbling about?

Teamrankings.com is very legitimate. News sources and media agencies contract them for stats research. You can go there for yourself and see all the 128s.

Fact is you're here debating whether we're 127 or 128, as some kind of proof to your argument that the offense is growing. You did the same kind of posts supporting Flood against all available statistical evidence. So yes, that's why I called you out.

Look, it's no hard feelings. I can respect that you are loyal no matter who's in there, and trust me, I want to be overly optimistic, but people are also free to form their own opinions based on statistics even if it paints a grim photo of just how bad our wunderkind OC has been. If we had been more willing to do this with Flood, we might not have this problem...

But here's hoping Gio can rescue RU, and save his coach's job. Plenty of time to drastically improve on these offensive national rankings.