So what's the word on this guy? Will he be ready to go anytime soon? Is he a good rebounder? He looks like he has some mass with him. Might need him this year.
Ogbole?
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Guessing he’s out for the year or there would be some news or innuendo about him.
The innuendo would be whether he’d help or not based on his performance in practice.
The innuendo would be whether he’d help or not based on his performance in practice.
I’m have been asking about him
I have been saying that he (assuming he’s atleast DECENT ) could really help - we could REALLY use another big body to take up room in the paint, give up some fouls, get a few rebounds . I think the last game proved that without a doubt.
But the only responses I’ve received from such comments were: (1) adding another big guy “won’t move the needle” and that (2) “he isn’t good enough”
I’ve asked for clarifications on such comments and received nothing
Can someone who knows what they are talking about (ie, specifically with knowledge about Ogbole) opine on this? Considering our utter lack of depth behind cliff - could this kid help if healthy? Or is he a stiff?
I have been saying that he (assuming he’s atleast DECENT ) could really help - we could REALLY use another big body to take up room in the paint, give up some fouls, get a few rebounds . I think the last game proved that without a doubt.
But the only responses I’ve received from such comments were: (1) adding another big guy “won’t move the needle” and that (2) “he isn’t good enough”
I’ve asked for clarifications on such comments and received nothing
Can someone who knows what they are talking about (ie, specifically with knowledge about Ogbole) opine on this? Considering our utter lack of depth behind cliff - could this kid help if healthy? Or is he a stiff?
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Someone at the court club meeting said he should be back In January
He’s full contact at practice according to Carino
Pike loves the guy and really thinks he can help
You know this team is in bad shape when we start seeing posts for Ogbole and Jeremiah Williams, two guys who may not play at all this year, to have to get on the court and act as saviors of the season. This season is down bad.
I can’t imagine going from Monroe CC to the heart of the B1G schedule very effectively.
6:43 Pike says he’s going to be available “shortly” and this was recorded just before Miss St game…
Exactly. This team could use a little help. Hope we see both soon.
We all know Pike is optimistic and speaks highly of his players.
If this guy can walk into the heart of the B1G schedule, use his size to establish position, rebound and defend the rim… wouldn’t that be something.
Have you ever heard anything but positive remarks about Choi?
How soon before he contributes defensively, rebounds and scores
From what I’ve seen, I believe Chol is over his head in the B1G. Perhaps he can be an end of the rotation specialist similar to Palmquist in a year or so.
Who said anything about ogbole being a savior? LOL
Certainly no one in this thread
I see a bunch of people INQUIRING about his status and INQUIRING about his ability to HELP. Help!!
I didnt see a single person make any statement on his ability - let alone state that he can be some kind of savior.
What thread are you reading exactly?
So I will repeat the gist of my prior post…
Does anyone know if the kid is at least decent and can possibly be HELPFUL in giving some back up time for cliff… defending / taking up space in the paint, getting a few rebounds, maybe a few garbage put backs?
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Ogobole and Williams are both larger players. Ogobole is a space eater and not even Eady will be able to back him down . Williams is larger than any of our other guards. They are both big and strong and suited for this league because both can bang. Additionally you get Sommerville next year and he can also bang but has really good skills you would not expect of someone so large.
Rebound? In the paint? And defend the rim? What does that mean? Please explain.
Isn’t Ogobole a 5?
Establish position, defend the rim and rebound, I never used the word paint but it applies.
What clarification are you asking for?
Pike loves everyone on his team.
He always speaks highly of everyone and thus you can’t take what he says literally all the time.
Ogbole is a big body which is a positive but I’m not expecting much of a contribution from him this year given his inactiveness / prior experience and time it will take him to get into game shape Etc.
The fact that we can't pull a rebound down for our lives. I thought maybe you would get the sarcastic humor.
From what I have seen of Ogbole, likely others have seen same on YouTube, he is much bigger body than Cliff. Looks like he would be difficult to push around. IF he’s available to play this year, let’s give him some legit backup center minutes and see what this guy can do while developing him for NEXT YEAR and the future. He is huge guy with a large wingspan, we just need to find out how he uses his body on the court with in game competition and if he has toughness (very important). The focus of this year should be things that pay off in the long run next year. I would love to see JWill and Ogbole hit the court this year, but I am not investing the expectation and hope that this team turns its season around because they’re available. I want to see what we have in them and get them experience in the BIG to benefit next year. Development and roster shaping for next year is where I believe the focus should be. I don’t have visions of grandeur of this team magically turning it around this year, call me pessimistic, I hope I am wrong but this group plays hard but they’re just not as good as recent teams. Let’s play Gavin, JMike, Simpson, Mag, even JWill and Ogbole if they join up with team as much as we can, with the plan of them being better for it and paying dividends next season. If we have struggles with Simpson this year, so be it, let him see if he can work through it and come out the other side with growth for next season in mind. To quote Greg Schiano “We’re a developmental program”……this should be a developmental team this year.
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Edey vs. Ogbole’s defense would certainly be interesting to see January 28th at the RAC.
Ogbole is a big body that will definitely help. If he could have only played 10 minutes and boxed out Bell Jr., preventing him grabbing five less rebounds, it would have been an enormous plus on Saturday.
You are assuming he even has the fundamentals to block out. He has only played a very low level of basketball and has never played anyone with high major skills. Don Bosco could probably have blown out Ogbole’s JUCO team by 40 points.
Pike would have never offered Ogbole a scholarship if he couldn't box out.
SMH...
Are you serious about the quality of Monroe? They won almost 30 games in JC division I and were ranked about 15 if I remember correctly, knocking off a few of the top traditional junior college powers.
Ogbole averaged 12 points and 8 rebounds as a freshman last year. In 24 games before his injury, he also had 49 blocks, 19 steals, and shot 69% from the field.
Size-wise, he’s almost identical to Bell from MSt. Both are listed at 6’10, with Ogbole at 260lbs and Bell at 270.
We could have used Ogbole against MSt, and he will definitely help in a backup 5 role going forward, hopefully soon.
Size-wise, he’s almost identical to Bell from MSt. Both are listed at 6’10, with Ogbole at 260lbs and Bell at 270.
We could have used Ogbole against MSt, and he will definitely help in a backup 5 role going forward, hopefully soon.
He’s built like a refrigerator. Easy to box out if you’re 30 pounds heavier than most of the guys you’ll face.
Pike and staff don't have much of a history of developing the offensive ability of inexperienced 5 men.
I have no idea where Ogbole is in his development - but FWIW the 2018-19 version of Shaq Carter would help this team a lot.
We don’t necessarily need this to compete. If he’s a big body who can rebound reliably and score an occasional put back, he would help this team a ton. Grab even 2-3 more defensive boards to get stops at key points in a game (instead of gut wrenching second chance baskets) and you’d be surprised how many more games this team could win.
he is a big body but people actually expecting something from a rusty player are trying to bargain again...i would be shocked if there was any movement of the needle in performance of this team
I don’t know . What people are thinking he could help with - being a big body in the paint, getting some rebounds - I have to assume “rust” doesn’t affect such things as it would if he was expected to dribble and shoot (which he is not)
Frankly I can’t understand how any RU fan could watch that Miss st game and not see the desperate need for even a marginally decent big guy to back up cliff
with ZERO backup behind cliff - I can see the miss at game (where we just get completely abused by bigger teams) happening over and over and over and over again in big 10 play.
Would ogbole “move the needle” I don’t know but having at least a marginally decent back up 5 might atleast help limit the damage in such games
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You said in another thread that he “isn’t good enough” - I asked you to clarify but you didn’t . Can you do so now?
What do you mean by that? Is it your opinion that he is so untalented that he is incapable of being even marginally decent. Totally incapable of taking up some space, getting some rebounds, providing some defense?
And if you have such an opinion of him - what do you base this on?
do you think a rebound or two changes this team....he is coming from junior college and a knee injury since March. He has not had the benefit of playing against this sisters of the poor. You see how Gavin has struggled mightily with the jump in competition. I am being realistic about the situation. Do you know Mag and Cliff only had 1 rebound each. The teams problems lie very deep and will not be solved by a big body making his debut against tough competition he isnt ready for
You’re not answering the question
You said “he isn’t good enough” and continue to not back up that assertion.
I never made any statements about his abilities
I was asking questions - and assuming (since he received a scholarship from RU) that he’s at least marginally decent
You said “he isn’t good enough” but again refuse to back it up.
Have you seen him play?
If so, do you have the ability to competently evaluate his ability (or lack thereof) to contribute something (defend and rebound) at the Big10 level
Or are you just talking out of your ass with nothing to back it up
I’ll wait
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