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Omoruyi has been invited to G League elite camp

That’s fine. Hope he gets the coaching to develop an inside game and some offense other than dunks. We will greatly benefit from this knowledge next year. 👍
 
This information shows Cliff has impressed officials in order to get the G league camp invite.It doesn't answer the question if he is returning to Rutgers.The center position would need a scoring threat from the transfer portal if Cliff leaves.
I would argue we’d need a defensive big man out of the portal if Cliff left. Losing Caleb and Cliff and not having Mag in the early season would make our defense very mediocre.
 
If you really don’t believe cliff can play in the league all you need to do is turn on TNT right now and watch Bball Paul Reed for the sixers starting an NBA playoff game.

He will catch on somewhere. He’s a very athletic pnr dunks and lobs big and every nba bench needs it somewhere.
 
Since some comments keep talking about NIL money for Cliff; and I am reading articles that international players cannot earn NIL money; would those of you that keep talking about Cliff making NIL money - please provide some articles to look at where he can earn NIL money; or where Cliff is eligible to earn NIL money.
 
Since some comments keep talking about NIL money for Cliff; and I am reading articles that international players cannot earn NIL money; would those of you that keep talking about Cliff making NIL money - please provide some articles to look at where he can earn NIL money; or where Cliff is eligible to earn NIL money.
Correct in the U.S. but there's been some talk of a loophole if RU played in a tourney outside the U.S., say Canada or the Bahamas.
 
Rutgers is going to Senegal and Portugal this summer. Possible NIL opportunities for athletes on Student Visas

Having said that - I don't think Cliff is returning. If he's doing this full time, off-campus, he's gotta see how much more that helps him get to the NBA than another year at Rutgers, plus everyone around him will be telling him that. I think he's a long shot to get to the NBA but the longer he stays in college the less likely it is that he ever plays in the NBA.
 
We didn't make it with him last year as I recall. But if some team wants him that can't hurt us in the long run
Then you have no clue. If the recent B1G commit was coming this season maybe I would agree but you are way wrong.
 
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Rutgers is going to Senegal and Portugal this summer. Possible NIL opportunities for athletes on Student Visas

Having said that - I don't think Cliff is returning. If he's doing this full time, off-campus, he's gotta see how much more that helps him get to the NBA than another year at Rutgers, plus everyone around him will be telling him that. I think he's a long shot to get to the NBA but the longer he stays in college the less likely it is that he ever plays in the NBA.
Nah - that’s not entirely true. Some of its timing. Working his way up the G-league would be tough from where he would start “. He got a courtesy invite to the G-league camp but he’s not going to be in serious draft discussions.

If he has a big year in 2023 in college and then showcased himself in the NCAA tournament next year he could still be a second round pick next season which would position him way better than where he’d be now in the G-league IMO.
 
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There’s a narrative about G league increasing the possibility of him playing in nba. Is this actually true. I know it’s helped people. But what’s the data. Does college not help? I Heard a podcast talking about g league v college and the benefits in college sound pretty good comparatively. .. travel ,meals etc
 
I would argue we’d need a defensive big man out of the portal if Cliff left. Losing Caleb and Cliff and not having Mag in the early season would make our defense very mediocre.
I don’t believe there are many worthwhile Cs left in the portal
 
Rutgers is going to Senegal and Portugal this summer. Possible NIL opportunities for athletes on Student Visas

Having said that - I don't think Cliff is returning. If he's doing this full time, off-campus, he's gotta see how much more that helps him get to the NBA than another year at Rutgers, plus everyone around him will be telling him that. I think he's a long shot to get to the NBA but the longer he stays in college the less likely it is that he ever plays in the NBA.
This is very true.

The only way cliff comes back is if he loves Pike more than wanting to start a professional career. For his basketball future, there is no benefit returning to RU. That said, we need him to return and I hope pike keeps him. Hell I praised Pike last year for him coming back last year even.
 
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This is very true.

The only way cliff comes back is if he loves Pike more than wanting to start a professional career. For his basketball future, there is benefit returning to RU. That said, we need him to return and I hope pike keeps him. Hell I praised Pike last year for him coming back last year even.
Pretty much every center has chosen to return. The trend isn’t to go to the G league. Hopefully we have plans to get him money which would be more than he’d get in the G-league. That alone would be incentive because there’s no guarantee he ever makes it to the NBA.
 
Nah - that’s not entirely true. Some of its timing. Working his way up the G-league would be tough from where he would start “. He got a courtesy invite to the G-league camp but he’s not going to be in serious draft discussions.

If he has a big year in 2023 in college and then showcased himself in the NCAA tournament next year he could still be a second round pick next season which would position him way better than where he’d be now in the G-league IMO.
Every single NBA scout, agent, trainer and coach would say what I'm saying. It's all Cliff is hearing, every single day.
His odds of ever playing in the NBA are remote. Another year at Rutgers, where he's already been for 3, makes it even less likely.
 
There’s a narrative about G league increasing the possibility of him playing in nba. Is this actually true. I know it’s helped people. But what’s the data. Does college not help? I Heard a podcast talking about g league v college and the benefits in college sound pretty good comparatively. .. travel ,meals etc
Compensation/benefits like you're talking about in the G-League are not good - it's all about chasing the dream.
For most players, the quicker they get to the G Leauge the better their chances

Watch an NBA game, watch a Rutgers game and what Cliff does - he's not doing much at Rutgers that directly translates to what he'd do IF he played in the NBA compared to what he'd be doing in a G League game.
 
Compensation/benefits like you're talking about in the G-League are not good - it's all about chasing the dream.
For most players, the quicker they get to the G Leauge the better their chances

Watch an NBA game, watch a Rutgers game and what Cliff does - he's not doing much at Rutgers that directly translates to what he'd do IF he played in the NBA compared to what he'd be doing in a G League game.
How he’s used at Rutgers is a huge part of this.
 
How he’s used at Rutgers is a huge part of this.
Definitely part of it, but Rutgers isn't playing an NBA style offense and even if they were, they're not playing by NBA rules and Cliff doesn't have the skill to be much of a part of that style of offense.

Guys like Kevon Looney or Robert Williams (2 guys Cliff should be trying to emulate if he's going to play in the NBA) make a ton of reads and movements and set different types of picks and make passes/handoffs, if you asked Cliff to do that right now he'd be lost and probably foul on half his picks. He's not going to be doing those sorts of things at Rutgers this season if he stays. If he went to the G League, he'd be working on doing that sort of thing immediately.

There's also the difference in skill/maturity levels of his teammates and his opponents. Playing by NBA rules, G-Leauge teams would crush college teams.

I'm not trying to criticize Cliff or Pike or anyone, just pointing out the way things are.
 
Cliff's draft stock definitely went down over the past 12 months. I thought for sure he would be threat from the perimeter. Cliff has a lot of work to do. I don't know how much is his fault, the coaching staff's fault, or no one's fault.
 
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Having said that - I don't think Cliff is returning. If he's doing this full time, off-campus, he's gotta see how much more that helps him get to the NBA than another year at Rutgers, plus everyone around him will be telling him that.
agree with this part. I don't think coming back for another year hurts him at all. Think it helps him either way.
 
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He didn’t improve at all this year…and that is my main worry about him coming back.
He was significantly less efficient offensively while his usage/shots went up - that's bad - if that trend continues, he's a disaster offensively, especially with us getting better offensive players around him.

He got better defensively and rebounding - if he can continue that trend and get back to a more limited role offensively in terms of shots/post touches he'd be more valuable than ever.

Dream scenario is he continues the rebounding/defense trend and gets better setting picks/handoffs/passing/moving without the ball and abandons shooting 3's and only posts up when he has a mismatch.
 
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This is very true.

The only way cliff comes back is if he loves Pike more than wanting to start a professional career. For his basketball future, there is no benefit returning to RU. That said, we need him to return and I hope pike keeps him. Hell I praised Pike last year for him coming back last year even.

I don’t understand why so many here act like playing at Rutgers is some great detriment. He’s a shoo in for 32+ minutes per game in the Big 10 and access to excellent facilities and hands on coaching. Who knows what he gets at the g league. He could be cut on the bus ride from Sioux falls to Fort Wayne.

Returning to Rutgers offers significant opportunities from an improvement, legacy, brand, lifestyle, and maybe even financial perspectives.
 
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I don’t understand why so many here act like playing at Rutgers is some great detriment. He’s a shoo in for 32+ minutes per game in the Big 10 and access to excellent facilities and hands on coaching. Who knows what he gets at the g league. He could be cut on the bus ride from Sioux falls to Fort Wayne.

Returning to Rutgers offers significant opportunities from an improvement, legacy, brand, lifestyle, and maybe even financial perspectives.
Playing at Rutgers last year made Cliff worse as an NBA prospect.

I hope Cliff and the coaches totally change his usage and mindset to what would help him the most to be an NBA player because I also think that would help the team the most.
 
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