I would argue we’d need a defensive big man out of the portal if Cliff left. Losing Caleb and Cliff and not having Mag in the early season would make our defense very mediocre.This information shows Cliff has impressed officials in order to get the G league camp invite.It doesn't answer the question if he is returning to Rutgers.The center position would need a scoring threat from the transfer portal if Cliff leaves.
Exactly - he’s so impressive with those sorts of thingsI could see him getting an invite to the NBA combine with how ridiculous I expect his measurables and athletic tests to be.
Understood. But the program will benefit if we keep sending players to the next levelOh oh …. Not what we wanted to hear.
You sure about that thinking? We actually need Cliff this season or we are not making the NCAA.Understood. But the program will benefit if we keep sending players to the next level
He’s got a better chance at becoming an NBA player in the GLeagueCliff is not NBA ready. He can make more in college.
You're both right.Understood. But the program will benefit if we keep sending players to the next levelYou sure about that thinking? We actually need Cliff this season or we are not making the NCAA.
We didn't make it with him last year as I recall. But if some team wants him that can't hurt us in the long runYou sure about that thinking? We actually need Cliff this season or we are not making the NCAA.
Correct in the U.S. but there's been some talk of a loophole if RU played in a tourney outside the U.S., say Canada or the Bahamas.Since some comments keep talking about NIL money for Cliff; and I am reading articles that international players cannot earn NIL money; would those of you that keep talking about Cliff making NIL money - please provide some articles to look at where he can earn NIL money; or where Cliff is eligible to earn NIL money.
Then you have no clue. If the recent B1G commit was coming this season maybe I would agree but you are way wrong.We didn't make it with him last year as I recall. But if some team wants him that can't hurt us in the long run
Nah - that’s not entirely true. Some of its timing. Working his way up the G-league would be tough from where he would start “. He got a courtesy invite to the G-league camp but he’s not going to be in serious draft discussions.Rutgers is going to Senegal and Portugal this summer. Possible NIL opportunities for athletes on Student Visas
Having said that - I don't think Cliff is returning. If he's doing this full time, off-campus, he's gotta see how much more that helps him get to the NBA than another year at Rutgers, plus everyone around him will be telling him that. I think he's a long shot to get to the NBA but the longer he stays in college the less likely it is that he ever plays in the NBA.
I don’t believe there are many worthwhile Cs left in the portalI would argue we’d need a defensive big man out of the portal if Cliff left. Losing Caleb and Cliff and not having Mag in the early season would make our defense very mediocre.
This is very true.Rutgers is going to Senegal and Portugal this summer. Possible NIL opportunities for athletes on Student Visas
Having said that - I don't think Cliff is returning. If he's doing this full time, off-campus, he's gotta see how much more that helps him get to the NBA than another year at Rutgers, plus everyone around him will be telling him that. I think he's a long shot to get to the NBA but the longer he stays in college the less likely it is that he ever plays in the NBA.
Pretty much every center has chosen to return. The trend isn’t to go to the G league. Hopefully we have plans to get him money which would be more than he’d get in the G-league. That alone would be incentive because there’s no guarantee he ever makes it to the NBA.This is very true.
The only way cliff comes back is if he loves Pike more than wanting to start a professional career. For his basketball future, there is benefit returning to RU. That said, we need him to return and I hope pike keeps him. Hell I praised Pike last year for him coming back last year even.
Every single NBA scout, agent, trainer and coach would say what I'm saying. It's all Cliff is hearing, every single day.Nah - that’s not entirely true. Some of its timing. Working his way up the G-league would be tough from where he would start “. He got a courtesy invite to the G-league camp but he’s not going to be in serious draft discussions.
If he has a big year in 2023 in college and then showcased himself in the NCAA tournament next year he could still be a second round pick next season which would position him way better than where he’d be now in the G-league IMO.
Compensation/benefits like you're talking about in the G-League are not good - it's all about chasing the dream.There’s a narrative about G league increasing the possibility of him playing in nba. Is this actually true. I know it’s helped people. But what’s the data. Does college not help? I Heard a podcast talking about g league v college and the benefits in college sound pretty good comparatively. .. travel ,meals etc
How he’s used at Rutgers is a huge part of this.Compensation/benefits like you're talking about in the G-League are not good - it's all about chasing the dream.
For most players, the quicker they get to the G Leauge the better their chances
Watch an NBA game, watch a Rutgers game and what Cliff does - he's not doing much at Rutgers that directly translates to what he'd do IF he played in the NBA compared to what he'd be doing in a G League game.
Definitely part of it, but Rutgers isn't playing an NBA style offense and even if they were, they're not playing by NBA rules and Cliff doesn't have the skill to be much of a part of that style of offense.How he’s used at Rutgers is a huge part of this.
agree with this part. I don't think coming back for another year hurts him at all. Think it helps him either way.Having said that - I don't think Cliff is returning. If he's doing this full time, off-campus, he's gotta see how much more that helps him get to the NBA than another year at Rutgers, plus everyone around him will be telling him that.
He was significantly less efficient offensively while his usage/shots went up - that's bad - if that trend continues, he's a disaster offensively, especially with us getting better offensive players around him.He didn’t improve at all this year…and that is my main worry about him coming back.
This is very true.
The only way cliff comes back is if he loves Pike more than wanting to start a professional career. For his basketball future, there is no benefit returning to RU. That said, we need him to return and I hope pike keeps him. Hell I praised Pike last year for him coming back last year even.
Playing at Rutgers last year made Cliff worse as an NBA prospect.I don’t understand why so many here act like playing at Rutgers is some great detriment. He’s a shoo in for 32+ minutes per game in the Big 10 and access to excellent facilities and hands on coaching. Who knows what he gets at the g league. He could be cut on the bus ride from Sioux falls to Fort Wayne.
Returning to Rutgers offers significant opportunities from an improvement, legacy, brand, lifestyle, and maybe even financial perspectives.