On The Banks Article: Danny Hurley

[bac2therac]

http://www.onthebanks.com/2016/3/2/...all-danny-hurley-pat-hobbs-coaching-candidate

Describes Hurley as the perfect candidate

Discuss. Let me start by saying my #1 choice is Sendek because he has won at a high level and brings experience at a Power 5 level but I think Hurley should definitely be on the short list

I think Hurley does bring something to the table that could get NJ recruits to buy in and he can work with Hobbs on selling the vision perhaps better than any other candidate. I realize he is polarizing around the area and with fans.

Im not worried at all about temperament and for Hurley its a good time perhaps to bolt URI which is never going to be a power school in college hoops. As far as this season goes, 3 injured players..sound familiar but the difference is that he has kept their programs head above water with the injuries and not accepted implosion.

 

[ruman]

My order of real world candidates (top tier):

1. Danny Hurley
2. Longergan
3. Sendek

Would be thrilled with any of them - will be disappointed (but hopeful) with many others like Maisello, Will Brown, King Rice, etc...

 

[MADHAT1]

I'm still not convinced that Danny should be one of the top candidates.
He took over a program that had a bad year but the previous HC (Jim Baron) had 4 straight 20 win seasons (26-10 in 2009-10) the 4 years before his disastrous season that cost Baron his position.
Danny had one 20 win season ( last year) in his first 3 years and this season is sitting on a 16-13 record.
Know the injury excuse is being put out there, but that is only an excuse for Hurley not proving he can sustain improvement made.

Hurley didn't build a program at RI , Danny only took one over after one bad year in 5.
That, in my opinion, isn't enough to trust him to do the job that needs to be done and obstacles that he would be facing if he was hired to turn the RU MBB program into a respectable program and then improve on that.

 

[ru8081]

Of the choices I want Sendek. RU should not sign anyone up for 7 years. Think down the road. What would RUs rep be if they had to fire the son of a NJ HS basketball legend. I have nothing against Danny but we Must be successful this time around. Too much risk involved here with Danny.

 

[bac2therac]

I believe Baron was at URI for 11 years without one single NCAA appearance, yes some NITs and 20 wins seasons but when you go 7-24 your last season there has to be some major issue going on there and lack of talent has to be the top one so Im assuming Danny didn't get there with a full cupboard.

Hard to argue with a trajectory of

8-21
14-18
21-10 NIT
16-13 in an injury riddled season which is stark contrast to here and yet some smart ass will bring it up as no excuse but if you cant see the difference then you are trolling..the fact is even with the injuries they are 500 in league and above 500 and in the running for a NIT bid if they close strong.

 

[RUJMM78]

Anyone hired for the mens basketball program comes with risks because of past history showing lack of institutional support.Every day the shovels aren't in the ground for the practice facility only makes it more difficult to attract a new head coach who could actually improve the won/loss record.

 

[DHajekRC84]

I am not sold that just the name Hurley is just going to line up talent from NJ. We don't need anymore hype and PR stuff. We need a real proven coach and recruiter.

Not saying he couldn't get it done. I really like what dave said about his coaching. And I did like what little I saw from him while on bannon's bench.

 

[KnightDC]

Ringoes -- Its not the name; thats a very small part; Danny has a history as former ac here; he built a great HS program and knows the metro region well; he has proven he can recruit at both Wagner and URI he got talent that ordinarily didnt consider those programs. And he has done reasonably well as a HC at his 2 stops. Sendek has a better track record as a head coach for sure. but if Danny is the guy its going to be because of his ability to recruit and rebuild bridges to NJ/NY/Philly HS and grassroots program that have been neglected by the current staff. Those recruiting relationships don't flow from his name but from what he has done as a HS and college coach.

 

[cRURah]

Trust Hobbs - he will get it right. I'm so juiced we finally have an AD who knows wtf he's doing.

 

[Mr Magoo]

My order of real world candidates (top tier):

1. Danny Hurley
2. Longergan
3. Sendek

Would be thrilled with any of them - will be disappointed (but hopeful) with many others like Maisello, Will Brown, King Rice, etc...

Mine is:

1. Lonergan
2. Sendek
3. Hurley

I also would be happy with any of these 3 and dissapointed with Masiello, Brown or Rice. However, I'd take any of the six over status quo.

 

[MADHAT1]

I believe Baron was at URI for 11 years without one single NCAA appearance, yes some NITs and 20 wins seasons but when you go 7-24 your last season there has to be some major issue going on there and lack of talent has to be the top one so Im assuming Danny didn't get there with a full cupboard.

Hard to argue with a trajectory of

8-21
14-18
21-10 NIT
16-13 in an injury riddled season which is stark contrast to here and yet some smart ass will bring it up as no excuse but if you cant see the difference then you are trolling..the fact is even with the injuries they are 500 in league and above 500 and in the running for a NIT bid if they close strong.

Baron's last 6 years at RI:
2006–07 Rhode Island 19–14
2007–08 Rhode Island 21–12
2008–09 Rhode Island 23–11[
2009–10 Rhode Island 26–10
2010–11 Rhode Island 20–14]
2011–12 Rhode Island 7–24

Baron took over a pitiful Ram program that was 5-25 and 7-23 the two years before that under
Jerry DeGregorio.
DeGregorio did take over a good Rhode Island program that Jim Harrick brought to the NCAAs the two years he was ther.
But Baron had to bring it back to respectability after the DeGregorio years.
2001–02 Rhode Island 7–19[
2002–03 Rhode Island 19–12
2003–04 Rhode Island 20–14[
2004–05 Rhode Island 6–22
2005–06 Rhode Island 14–14
then 5 straight years with 19 or more wins before the terrible year that got him fired.
Also no NCAA appearances in his 11 years was a big factor in Rhode Island letting Baron go

Danny inherited a pretty good program that had a terribly year and didn't do anything to make
him a quality choice for the RU MBB position.
Though Hurley's Ram job does make him a second tier candidate if the quality ones aren't interested.
Danny's still to much of a gamble considering he didn't follow up on his one good year as the Rams HC and excuses aren't enough to make him one.
Want to make excuses for Danny, allow the Jordan supporters their excuses for Eddie and agree Eddie Jordan deserves to have Hobbs consider retaining him for next year
Know that would go over with you and others like a lead balloon[roll]

 

[TDIrish27]

Hire the guy who you believe to be the best recruiter.

RU is talent short compared to the teams they are playing in conference.

 

[G- RUnit]

Baron's last 6 years at RI:
2006–07 Rhode Island 19–14
2007–08 Rhode Island 21–12
2008–09 Rhode Island 23–11[
2009–10 Rhode Island 26–10
2010–11 Rhode Island 20–14]
2011–12 Rhode Island 7–24

Baron took over a pitiful Ram program that was 5-25 and 7-23 the two years before that under
Jerry DeGregorio.
DeGregorio did take over a good Rhode Island program that Jim Harrick brought to the NCAAs the two years he was ther.
But Baron had to bring it back to respectability after the DeGregorio years.
2001–02 Rhode Island 7–19[
2002–03 Rhode Island 19–12
2003–04 Rhode Island 20–14[
2004–05 Rhode Island 6–22
2005–06 Rhode Island 14–14
then 5 straight years with 19 or more wins before the terrible year that got him fired.
Also no NCAA appearances in his 11 years was a big factor in Rhode Island letting Baron go

Danny inherited a pretty good program that had a terribly year and didn't do anything to make
him a quality choice for the RU MBB position.
Though Hurley's Ram job does make him a second tier candidate if the quality ones aren't interested.
Danny's still to much of a gamble considering he didn't follow up on his one good year as the Rams HC and excuses aren't enough to make him one.
Want to make excuses for Danny, allow the Jordan supporters their excuses for Eddie and agree Eddie Jordan deserves to have Hobbs consider retaining him for next year
Know that would go over with you and others like a lead balloon[roll]

Baron was hosed by the tourney committee and should have had two bids. One bad year. URI has no conscious. Still havent made tourney in year four.

 

[RU-ROCS]

I'm still not convinced that Danny should be one of the top candidates.
He took over a program that had a bad year but the previous HC (Jim Baron) had 4 straight 20 win seasons (26-10 in 2009-10) the 4 years before his disastrous season that cost Baron his position.
Danny had one 20 win season ( last year) in his first 3 years and this season is sitting on a 16-13 record.
Know the injury excuse is being put out there, but that is only an excuse for Hurley not proving he can sustain improvement made.

Hurley didn't build a program at RI , Danny only took one over after one bad year in 5.
That, in my opinion, isn't enough to trust him to do the job that needs to be done and obstacles that he would be facing if he was hired to turn the RU MBB program into a respectable program and then improve on that.

I see it the same way.

 

[shields]

Sendek is number 1 to me.

 

[B1GNJHoops]

Baron was hosed by the tourney committee and should have had two bids. One bad year. URI has no conscious. Still havent made tourney in year four.

Why didn't Baron get a better job than Canisius? Strange. You'd think A10 team would want him

 

[SkilletHead2]

I just don't see the attraction in Hurley. He is 61-62 right now at Rhody, and has made it to the second round of the NIT once in his career. That's it. He has a reputation as a hot head, and he turned us down when we really needed him. His family is a polarising name in NJ basketball.

What is the attraction? Why not go with a guy who has been successful with P5 programs and has a long history of postseason play, 22 seasons of HC experience, including 19 at a P5?

Listen, nothing is for certain in this world, but get real, there is no choice here. The only question with Hurley is whether he is hireable at all, not whether he is the best option.

 

[shields]

Agree with above, Sendek has coached at major schools in major conferences.

 

[G- RUnit]

Why didn't Baron get a better job than Canisius? Strange. You'd think A10 team would want him

Who knows? Would another team in the A10 hire him? He has already succeeded at St. Bonnie and Rhode. Still doing fairly well at a place that has to be hard to recruit. 20-14, 21-13, 18-14, and 12-17 this year. I suspect he will recover next year. Coaches coach.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

He is NOT the "perfect candidate" so I can't agree with sentiment, however, I'd put him right there towards the top for a # of reasons.

 

[RU MAN]

I'm not sold on Hurley. I think he would be better after a program is built. That's why I like the idea of Sendek, who will bring top notch assistants and together they will turn this program around, because he has a proven track record. Hurley? Not yet.

 

[BoroKnight]

All of this is interesting, of course, and it's nice to see a discussion with a lot of valid points. But the question now is, knowing where we are -- even worse than the last time around -- who the hell would take this job, and how much would it take to get him?

Anyone currently employed above a place like, oh, say Longwood is probably happier where he is than taking a chance on this Dunkirk of a program.

 

[LC-88]

Pass on Danny.

 

[Scarlet Shack]

He was who I wanted three years ago

Now...on the a list...but still want Sendek first

 

[jtung230]

If we signed him based on his terms (7 yr contract), we would all be bashing JH for signing such a stupid deal right now.

 

[ruman]

If we signed him based on his terms (7 yr contract), we would all be bashing JH for signing such a stupid deal right now.

Not if the team was turning around. And Carl kirschner singed eddie