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OT: 5-star DE Joshua Kaindoh decommits from MD, leaning PSU

Aug 29, 2014
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I don't know if this is good or bad for us long term, assuming he commits to PSU. On one hand, it keeps MD in our league so to speak. But it just makes PSU better which makes all of our blood boil. Him and Hansard and whomever else they have, it could be scary
 
I don't know if this is good or bad for us long term, assuming he commits to PSU. On one hand, it keeps MD in our league so to speak. But it just makes PSU better which makes all of our blood boil. Him and Hansard and whomever else they have, it could be scary
If Schiano didn't get the NFL gig, and stayed with our move to the Big 10, we would be dangerous right now. I am still bummed we didn't go all in on him this year, even after he turned us down for the miami gig he didn't get.

All we can do now is pray that Ash can hold most of this class together and really develop his kids over the next few years. We can't afford to lose anymore kids. Its painful enough to read the Barkley article today in the ledger! PSU was always going to be a threat, but clearly now this is only going to get harder and put more pressure on Ash and the JV coaching squad to show tangible progress faster.
 
Our division is going higher so we must be getting lower even though we are on the bottom already. The rich get....you know the rest.
 
Mr. TV doesn't have the greatest track record, but he's on the mark here. Lot of people saying PSU because he just went on his official visit and PSU staff is very high on the relationship with the family. But a report just came out on one of his coaches at IMG and a "handler" pushing FSU - those kind of things general end up going the southern school's way.

He probably ends up down south.
 
Hey, it's a free country.

If he wants to join a program that enabled and protected a pedophile for 40 years, and a fanbase that vehemently defends said pedophile enablers, so be it.
 
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jtung230 said:
Winning helps recruiting.
Recruiting helps winning.

Both are needed and I'm sure getting talent on the roster will bring about winning more.
Also feel a constant winning record will hep recruiting far better than a losing one,
but if you don't have a good recruiter on the staff and/or the HC isn't a good closer that will hurt a school's recruiting effort.

Personally I feel a good recruiter can overcome losing records, but if a school has been a constant conference bottom feeder, it will have to start showing it can win by being competitive in most of its games , to get the talent needed to become a constant winning program with a chance to be a top one.
 
jtung230 said:
Winning helps recruiting.


Both are needed and I'm sure getting talent on the roster will bring about winning more.
Also feel a constant winning record will hep recruiting far better than a losing one,
but if you don't have a good recruiter on the staff and/or the HC isn't a good closer that will hurt a school's recruiting effort.

Personally I feel a good recruiter can overcome losing records, but if a school has been a constant conference bottom feeder, it will have to start showing it can win by being competitive in most of its games , to get the talent needed to become a constant winning program with a chance to be a top one.

Agree, both are needed, but right now we're doing the opposite: we're bringing in the type of recruits needed to run this O and for this program DESPITE the awful season. So far. Fingers crossed.
 
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What r u a child? Only a moron writes comments like that, no place for that. Easy to be a tough guy behind your computer. Loser.

Most ironic SN post of all times? It's a race as tight as this year's playoffs, but I think you're a lock for the 1 spot.

I liked Schiano, but anyone that still thinks watching "Schiano 2: No More Cupcakes" is the best we could do should go call his crazy ex-girlfriend, ask her to marry him on the spot, and spend at least a few years thinking, "what in god's name prompted me to get back together with this nightmare?"
 
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We missed our opportunity and now face a long run of just trying to battle for 4th place in our division.

Yes, but the bigger opportunity was several years ago when we just got into the Big Ten. That momentum sputtered out for Flood & staff, and then started going backwards.
 
To me it vindicates the decision to transition to the spread. Penn State is pretty much solidified (along with OSU and Mich) as a team we have to play every year who would be able to stifle our run and get an effective pass rush with just their 4 linemen if we play pro style. Our best hope is to eventually develop an effective spread that "bypasses" their huge advantage in the trenches.
 
With Harbaugh and Meyer you have a tough top of the division.

B10 East:
A teams - Michigan and Ohio St (teams that are likely to have at least 8 wins in a down year)
B teams - Penn St and Michigan St (large upside but a down year can lead to only 5 wins)
C teams - Indiana, Rutgers, and Maryland (rebuilding mode where the teams can either move to the B level or stay at the division bottom)

Rutgers and Maryland are better off losing players to Ohio St and Michigan instead of PSU since PSU can be a winnable game in some years. 4-2 in the division is not bad but if PSU and Mich St stay at top 25 quality then you are looking at 2-4 in the division at best.
 
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Only our fans can find things to complain about when Maryland loses a 5-star recruit. Un****ingreal. SMH
Yes, because the real competition in the division is the school to the west, not the one to the south. Maryland will always be an also ran in football, it is a basketball school. If the ultimate goal is to be competitive with Maryland we are screwed, say hello to endless 5, 6, and 7 win seasons.
 
Sucks for us, but it'll be a while before a big May/June commit sticks all the way to signing day. The kid knows he'll have more visibility and top notch coaching at a helmet school.

Maryland and Rutgers have a lot of room to grow, and the way they'll do it is to coach up the 3-4 star kids and build the program.

This was not unexpected, at least by the fans I hang with.
 
To me it vindicates the decision to transition to the spread. Penn State is pretty much solidified (along with OSU and Mich) as a team we have to play every year who would be able to stifle our run and get an effective pass rush with just their 4 linemen if we play pro style. Our best hope is to eventually develop an effective spread that "bypasses" their huge advantage in the trenches.
I hope so.

I do worry that with the spread becoming more prevalent that 1) defenses are getting better at defending it and 2) the talent to run the spread is getting more spread out leaving us with a talent disadvantage compared with others running the spread.

It was always said that the spread equalizes talent gaps, but if everyone is doing it, and they are doing it with more talent, then we could be in trouble. My gut is always to zig while others zag. Could we be like Iowa or Michigan State or Wisconsin from a talent perspective and be a power team and win?
 
Maryland is a basketball lacrosse school and may always be. We once we're a basketball school and may be that again soon. Football? Not sure .
 
Most ironic SN post of all times? It's a race as tight as this year's playoffs, but I think you're a lock for the 1 spot.

I liked Schiano, but anyone that still thinks watching "Schiano 2: No More Cupcakes" is the best we could do should go call his crazy ex-girlfriend, ask her to marry him on the spot, and spend at least a few years thinking, "what in god's name prompted me to get back together with this nightmare?"

I think Vince is correct in that if Schiano could have built the momentum from his last class and carried it over using the invitation to the B1G, we would certainly be in a much different spot right about now. He brought in the best talent in school history while in the Big East which was disintegrating. Flood blew the opportunity to use the great news of the B1G membership to attract better recruits and actually managed to go backward talent wise. I also agree that GS would have to be crazy to come back here post Flood.
 
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Sucks for us, but it'll be a while before a big May/June commit sticks all the way to signing day. The kid knows he'll have more visibility and top notch coaching at a helmet school.

Maryland and Rutgers have a lot of room to grow, and the way they'll do it is to coach up the 3-4 star kids and build the program.

This was not unexpected, at least by the fans I hang with.

then we are screwed because unlike GS, Ash hasn't shown he can do this amongst the other glaring weaknesses in his coaching
 
then we are screwed because unlike GS, Ash hasn't shown he can do this amongst the other glaring weaknesses in his coaching
We are what 10 weeks from signing day and you've already concluded this?
I won't even address the schiano recruiting myths. I'll leave that to others with more patience.
 
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We are what 10 weeks from signing day and you've already concluded this?
I won't even address the schiano recruiting myths. I'll leave that to others with more patience.
you can't prove anything whereas we could provide a litany of things the coach did wrong as a COACH. He can't coach and he certainly can't delegate so what's he doing right? Signing day isn't here and 3 more are in play with other schools (2 we want badly).

time will tell
 
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