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OT-A-Rod Cost The Yankees $317+ Million+$132 Million In Luxury Tax (Good Bye Thread)

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Can't blame ARod for taking every penny. No one held a gun to the Yankee brass's heads. If they hadn't paid him someone else (Boston) would have.
ARod was almost a Red Sox. The deal was done. After the 2003 season and Aaron F'n Boone's HR, the Sawx were desperate to make a splash. They had reached agreement with the Rangers on a trade in which the principals were ARod and Manny Ramirez. Problem was, Boston wanted ARod to renegotiate his contract. He said yes, but the MLBPA said no.

ESPN did a 30 for 30 short (1/2 hour) on this topic.
 
Cashman is the worst, just had an open checkbook to cover his crap moves. He is no theo thats fir sure
 
Don't think you an put the blame for the luxury tax all on Arod. Cashman did not want to sign him, that order came from above.
 
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Why do yous people idolize a cheat, lier,
trouble maker? May he rot in hell.

That's a tough view on life and people, but you are entitled to view him that way. He did PEDs (more than once) and went down ugly in 2014. But, I don't see him as a calculating evil guy. Instead, he was perhaps the most talented baseball player that has lived but he was so insecure that he felt the need to continue to use PEDs. It's sad actually. BTW, he's just a baseball player; he isn't Bin Laden.
 
Actually, the money they're wasting is the stuff they spend on Hal and Hank Steinbrenner. The only homer either of those guys ever hit was winning the Parent Lottery.
I wasn't being sarcastic. I truly believe it was money well spent. Add in all the tickets, concessions, merchandise, and positive press pre scandal plus World Series Championships and they profit. That doesn't even begin to monetize the fact people are so busy complaining about "A-Roid" they ignore all the other Yankee greats who were sauced up during their run.
 
Cashman is the worst, just had an open checkbook to cover his crap moves. He is no theo thats fir sure

I'm no Cashman lover, but he did not approve that contract extension. He clearly stated that he wanted to work with A-Rod prior to his opt-out, but A-Rod opted out anyway. (Which was his right). Cashman walked away from A-Rod at that point and when San Fran didn't give him his rumored $400MM contract he called and cried to Hank directly. It was Steinbrenner who was behind that deal.

Either way, it's an end of an era for sure. At least he gave some MVP type seasons even if he choked in October. Personally, I had more of an issue with the Ellsbury deal. I've literally lost interest somewhat in the team when they walked away from Cano only to give a guy with 1 good year and averages 100 games played due to constant injuries a 7-year $20MM per deal.
 
you're priorities in life are pretty screwed up if you have this much anger for someone playing a kid's game.
And anyone, who teaches their kids
that it is alright to cheat in a kid's game, and generally in life, isn't
screwed up? If you want your kids to idolize a cheating, liar that's
on you, I taught mine and my grandchildren otherwise.
Stealing $400 million is not a kid's game. If he did it in any
other job, he would be in jail. But to each his own.
Teach a kid it is ok to cheat in just a kid's game
is telling him it is ok to cheat, lie and steal in life.
 
And anyone, who teaches their kids
that it is alright to cheat in a kid's game, and generally in life, isn't
screwed up? If you want your kids to idolize a cheating, liar that's
on you, I taught mine and my grandchildren otherwise.
Stealing $400 million is not a kid's game. If he did it in any
other job, he would be in jail. But to each his own.
Teach a kid it is ok to cheat in just a kid's game
is telling him it is ok to cheat, lie and steal in life.
spot on....
 
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NickKnight-see your opinion but one thing to defend A-Rod Steroids weren't illegal when A-Rod started. I think the lesson re A-Rod is always present yourself well.

Anyone notice vs prior Olympics how gracious US Athletes R?
NASCAR drivers literally receive training on how to bring up their sponsors during conversations. "60 Minutes" covered years ago.
 
That's a tough view on life and people, but you are entitled to view him that way. He did PEDs (more than once) and went down ugly in 2014. But, I don't see him as a calculating evil guy. Instead, he was perhaps the most talented baseball player that has lived but he was so insecure that he felt the need to continue to use PEDs. It's sad actually. BTW, he's just a baseball player; he isn't Bin Laden.
I'm no Cashman lover, but he did not approve that contract extension. He clearly stated that he wanted to work with A-Rod prior to his opt-out, but A-Rod opted out anyway. (Which was his right). Cashman walked away from A-Rod at that point and when San Fran didn't give him his rumored $400MM contract he called and cried to Hank directly. It was Steinbrenner who was behind that deal.

Either way, it's an end of an era for sure. At least he gave some MVP type seasons even if he choked in October. Personally, I had more of an issue with the Ellsbury deal. I've literally lost interest somewhat in the team when they walked away from Cano only to give a guy with 1 good year and averages 100 games played due to constant injuries a 7-year $20MM per deal.
The Yanks walked away from Cano,
by the way they offered more money per year than Seattle,
But they learned from A Roid, & Mark T. not to give long, long
contracts to players already in their thirties. The Yanks are
not the bad guys, just made mistakes they don't want to repeat.
 
NickKnight-see your opinion but one thing to defend A-Rod Steroids weren't illegal when A-Rod started. I think the lesson re A-Rod is always present yourself well.

Anyone notice vs prior Olympics how gracious US Athletes R?
NASCAR drivers literally receive training on how to bring up their sponsors during conversations. "60 Minutes" covered years ago.
Steroids weren't banned by baseball, but they were illegal.
 
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The Yanks walked away from Cano,
by the way they offered more money per year than Seattle,
But they learned from A Roid, & Mark T. not to give long, long
contracts to players already in their thirties. The Yanks are
not the bad guys, just made mistakes they don't want to repeat.

They made it pretty clear they didn't really want Cano anymore. With that said, I had zero issue with them walking away from that deal. My point was why go give 7 years to Ellsbury? That showed me they learned nothing. They are finally getting it now.
 
They made it pretty clear they didn't really want Cano anymore. With that said, I had zero issue with them walking away from that deal. My point was why go give 7 years to Ellsbury? That showed me they learned nothing. They are finally getting it now.
They made it pretty clear they didn't really want Cano anymore. With that said, I had zero issue with them walking away from that deal. My point was why go give 7 years to Ellsbury? That showed me they learned nothing. They are finally getting it now.
Yes I agree they made
mistakes with Ellsbury, and at the same time mistakes with
McCaan, Headley, and the story is still out with Tanaka,
they gave a huge amount of money to a foreign player
who pitched with 5 days rest his whole life, and for a
person his age he threw alot of innings with that arm. In Japan
they often go well over 100 pitches as did Tanaka. But don't
get me wrong I love the guy and really am rooting hard for him.
So anyway it looks they are going the way the Cubs did
with their new owner, they got rid of the higher paid, and
rebuilt every thing about how they ran their business.
 
A-Rod At The Bat

The outlook wasn't brilliant for the Yankee Nine that day;
the score stood four to two, with but one inning more to play.
And then when Gardner died at first, and Ellsbury did the same, a sickly silence fell upon the patrons of the game.

A straggling few got up, to go in deep despair. The rest....
clung to that hope which springs eternal in the human breast;
they thought, if only A-Rod could get but a whack at that –
they'd put up even money, now, with A-Rod at the bat.

But Teixeira preceded A-Rod, as did also Brian McCann,
and the former was a lulu and the latter needed a hand,
so upon that stricken multitude grim melancholy sat,
for there seemed but little chance of A-Rod’s getting to the bat.

But Tex let drive a single, to the opposite left field wall,
and McCann, the much despised, tore the cover off the ball;
and when the dust had lifted, and the men saw what had occurred, there was McCann safe at second and Teixeira a-huggin' third.

Then from fifty thousand throats and more there rose a lusty yell; it rumbled through the Bronx, it rattled Old Queen’s bell;
it knocked around the skyline and recoiled until it sat, for A-Rod, mighty A-Rod, was advancing to the bat.

There was ease in A-Rod's manner as he stepped into his place; there was pride in A-Rod's bearing and a smile on A-Rod's face.

And when, responding to the jeers, he lightly doffed his hat,
no stranger in the crowd could doubt 'twas A-Rod at the bat.

Ten times ten thousand eyes were on him as he rubbed his hands with dirt; fifty thousand tongues applauded when he wiped them on his shirt.

Then while the writhing pitcher ground the ball into his hip,
defiance gleamed in A-Rod's eye, injections in his lip.

And now the leather-covered sphere came hurtling through the air, and A-Rod stood a-watching it in haughty grandeur there.

Close by the sturdy batsman the ball unheeded sped--
"PEDs ain't my style," said A-Rod. "Strike one," the umpire said.

From the benches, jammed with people, there went up a muffled roar, he’ll never be a member of the venerated Core Four.

“Pinch hit him! Pinch hit him!" shouted someone on the stand; and it's likely they'd have done so had not Girardi raised his hand.

With a smile of dishonest charity great A-Rod's visage shone;
he stilled the rising tumult; he bade the game go on;
he signaled to the pitcher, and once more the spheroid flew;
but A-Rod still ignored it, and the umpire said: "Strike two."

"Fraud!" cried the maddened thousands, and echo answered fraud; but one innocent look from A-Rod and the audience was awed.

They saw his face grow stern and cold, they saw his muscles strain, and then they knew that A-Rod was on steroids once again.

The acne returned to A-Rod’s back, his body awaits its fate,
he pounds with cruel violence his bat upon the plate.
And now the pitcher holds the ball, and now he lets it go,
and now the air is shattered by the force of A-Rod’s blow.

****************
Oh, somewhere in the House of Ruth the sun is shining bright; the rookies are playing often, and their contracts are very light, and somewhere men are laughing, and somewhere children shout; and there’s much joy in Yankeeville — for the last time A-Rod has struck out.
 
And anyone, who teaches their kids
that it is alright to cheat in a kid's game, and generally in life, isn't
screwed up? If you want your kids to idolize a cheating, liar that's
on you, I taught mine and my grandchildren otherwise.
Stealing $400 million is not a kid's game. If he did it in any
other job, he would be in jail. But to each his own.
Teach a kid it is ok to cheat in just a kid's game
is telling him it is ok to cheat, lie and steal in life.
Hopefully you taught your kids and grandkids that working day and night at your craft will lead you to success and opportunities; and that you have to make the right decisions with that success and opportunity. Guy is a tireless worker. Just ask his teammates present and past. Alex cheated himself and the game but you know what: Alex Rodriguez is arguably the best all around 5 tool baseball player to ever play Major League Baseball and tomorrow there will be less interest in the Yankees and Major League Baseball [unless he gets picked up by another team which may very well happen]. Ok. That's enough defending a billionaire.

GO RU
 
I'm no Cashman lover, but he did not approve that contract extension. He clearly stated that he wanted to work with A-Rod prior to his opt-out, but A-Rod opted out anyway. (Which was his right). Cashman walked away from A-Rod at that point and when San Fran didn't give him his rumored $400MM contract he called and cried to Hank directly. It was Steinbrenner who was behind that deal.

Either way, it's an end of an era for sure. At least he gave some MVP type seasons even if he choked in October. Personally, I had more of an issue with the Ellsbury deal. I've literally lost interest somewhat in the team when they walked away from Cano only to give a guy with 1 good year and averages 100 games played due to constant injuries a 7-year $20MM per deal.
What about the tex, headly, mcann deals to name a few?
 
Re the ceremony-an autographed base and number 13? I guess the car can come out of the $300+ million. Even divert attention away from the Yankees by bringing Seattle and Lou Pinella into the mix.

***For all of you UNC haters who are envious of their success and complain about THEIR cheating (Flood and certain players exposed Rutgers to a lesser extent last year).-HERES YOUR BAIT-Jennifer? is a UNC grad. Well you can argue that the Steinbrenners got schooled (they could afford it) by A-Rod.
 
And anyone, who teaches their kids
that it is alright to cheat in a kid's game, and generally in life, isn't
screwed up? If you want your kids to idolize a cheating, liar that's
on you, I taught mine and my grandchildren otherwise.
Stealing $400 million is not a kid's game. If he did it in any
other job, he would be in jail. But to each his own.
Teach a kid it is ok to cheat in just a kid's game
is telling him it is ok to cheat, lie and steal in life.

Oh come on. You have to really jump through some hoops to get to where A Rod was stealing money. You act like the Yankees and every other team and organization in baseball didn't know players were using steroids. There is a reason the Yankees couldn't void A Rod's contract for steroid use.

I wonder if you have the same hatred and venom for all of the other players who cheated by using PEDs. Its a long long list. There is a reason people are beginning to refer to it as the "steroid era."
 
Arod is the Greatest Infielder the Game has ever seen. . . especially when you consider that he's one of the only #1 overall Draft picks, that actually lived up to his draft choice.

Yes, I like Ken Griffey Jr. better, but A-rod is better than Schmidt.
 
have to love it, honoring Alex and it starts to pour and thunder.

M.A Ironic, yes. Having watched the "ceremony" I wouldn't be surprised if the Steinbrenners seeded the clouds. I think A-Rod deserved better if only slightly.

However, re yourself:

1) I also remember (after attending many a game and show together and even buying tickets that I couldn't even afford while I was not working and you weren't) you not saying anythimg when your friend tried to pound me cowardly from behind (Cook 6 and under league Intramural Hoops
Finale because he was frustrated as we were kicking your butt
(nobody told your buddies to go on spring break 2sh days early).

Also what you got mad with me about I did similar with my tailgate buddies on this board and they chewed me out/"corrected me" for a lack of manners (ironic j itself.

Will cut you a break on AROD (BTW some economist? on the radio I caught late this afternoon calculated that AROD brought a few hundred million more in revenue then he cost in salary) but you and your Cook buddies are some weird ones (that's how you all wound up together-in a different way in a similar boat this week). You're a good fan though (hope with your success you have season tickets).
 
No human being regardless of talent or marketability is worth what the Yankees paid Alex Rodriguez. President Trap would put heavy restrictions on how much an athlete or CEO can earn. Please don't misconstrue what I'm trying to say I believe in capitalism, I just believe in it with realistic parameters. The Yankees bought those Championships and every baseball fan knew this to be fact!! They needed to be punished and A. Rodriguez is their punishment and will be for years to come.
 
***I'm interested in opinions re A-Rods ceremony. Enough? Too much? Did the Steinbrenners (chance for you UNC haters to comment-Jennifer I believe is a Carolina grad. One of them is) embarrass themselves? Let me know if you R an A-Rod symphathizer or not.

Am really interested in what Zaapaa thought-maybe a little too close to home though.
 
Jesus Christ. I hope no one ever disappoints you in real life.[/QUOTE
Sorry "May he or (you) rot in hell" was a very common phrase in the
fifties, so I guess it was a little over stated. So I'll change it to " may
he enjoy his exile from my Yanks. By the way I very much enjoyed
today's game, reminds me of 1996, which was a great pregame
show before the game. I really got tired of the ten year contracts,
and having to watch these broken down millionaires. With managers
having to play them because of their salaries. I think the Yanks did
great and hopefully have started a trend. I think we have witnessed
the end of an era.
 
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Oh come on. You have to really jump through some hoops to get to where A Rod was stealing money. You act like the Yankees and every other team and organization in baseball didn't know players were using steroids. There is a reason the Yankees couldn't void A Rod's contract for steroid use.

I wonder if you have the same hatred and venom for all of the other players who cheated by using PEDs. Its a long long list. There is a reason people are beginning to refer to it as the "steroid era."
But calling it the, steroid era, doesn't make it right. I didn't hate A roid
because of the steroids, it was a combination of many things he did.
But I didn't hate him. I just hate when people idolize the cheats, like
in not only N.Y. but Boston and many other cities. I,ve seen on TV
mothers in tears, begging A rod to kiss their child, while he was just
found guilty of cheating. Sorry I just don't get it.
 
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