OT: As the Big 12 turns...

[Scarlet_Scourge]

The latest developments in Big 12 expansion

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/17612297

 

[RURM85]

Stick a fork in it

 

[RUTGERZ_R00LZ]

Want to know what clusterf*ck means? Just read that linked article.

 

[MJL_52]

I'd love to see the B1G swagger in & take Texas & Oklahoma. Just to give a solid middle finger.

 

[restartRU]

I'd love to see the B1G swagger in & take Texas & Oklahoma. Just to give a solid middle finger.

I was hoping for a scenario where Connecticut was left standing at the alter and Houston and Cinci left ended up in the Big 12. That would make the AAC weaker than Conf. USA was 15 years ago.

I'm all for RU being in the best conference but do we really need to add UT or OU to the schedule? Our schedule is already absurd enough with UM, MSU, OSU and Enabler State U.

 

[rutgers4life11]

I was hoping for a scenario where Connecticut was left standing at the alter and Houston and Cinci left ended up in the Big 12. That would make the AAC weaker than Conf. USA was 15 years ago.

I'm all for RU being in the best conference but do we really need to add UT or OU to the schedule? Our schedule is already absurd enough with UM, MSU, OSU and Enabler State U.

Texas and B1G should think long term though. This is about making sure a team goes to the playoff every year (potentially 2), because at the end of the day that's what nets our conference the big bucks. Rutgers will be plenty competitive in the future when we're getting $50m/yr.

But with Oklahoma not being in the AAU, I think B1G would pass on them. Probably better to pick up the best available AAU school who would move for more prestige/money from ACC, SEC or Pac 12. If you had to go Big 12, Kansas works as an AAU school, and helps not be too competitive in football, but gives us basketball royalty.

Texas has to know that no matter what they do to the Big 12 conference, it will always be seen as the 5th best, so why stay in it when you can potentially join the best? Unfortunately, it's probably ego, but just imagine how strong B1G would be with Texas in it...

 

[Southern Gentleman]

Texas and B1G should think long term though. This is about making sure a team goes to the playoff every year (potentially 2), because at the end of the day that's what nets our conference the big bucks. Rutgers will be plenty competitive in the future when we're getting $50m/yr.

But with Oklahoma not being in the AAU, I think B1G would pass on them. Probably better to pick up the best available AAU school who would move for more prestige/money from ACC, SEC or Pac 12. If you had to go Big 12, Kansas works as an AAU school, and helps not be too competitive in football, but gives us basketball royalty.

Texas has to know that no matter what they do to the Big 12 conference, it will always be seen as the 5th best, so why stay in it when you can potentially join the best? Unfortunately, it's probably ego, but just imagine how strong B1G would be with Texas in it...

Be very careful what you wish for!!! Arkansas left the old SWC just because texass wanted to try and dictate everything that they possibly could to the other schools. You will quickly add texass to your schools that you hate for a myriad of reasons. Their egos exceed their reality. All hat, no cattle. Little Nopolean syndrome. Very small hands and feet.

 

[RUfromSoCal?]

"The schools spent most of those two hours pitching their individual strengths to the conference: SMU, its proximity to the rest of the league; Houston, its red-hot football program and its ability to help the Big 12 with the Houston TV market; USF and UCF, the upside of their top-20 TV markets ......

And uconn:

via @youtube

 

[Arizona Knight]

Be very careful what you wish for!!! Arkansas left the old SWC just because texass wanted to try and dictate everything that they possibly could to the other schools. You will quickly add texass to your schools that you hate for a myriad of reasons. Their egos exceed their reality. All hat, no cattle. Little Nopolean syndrome. Very small hands and feet.

I think the University of Texas had more medals in the Rio Olympics than all but something like 10 countries. They aren't "little" anything.

 

[BoroKnight]

Texas is the most lucrative athletic program in the nation, no matter what conference it's in. So I'm not so sure they really want to go elsewhere, but rather use that threat to get pretty much whatever the hell they want from the Big 12, which, as long as UT and OU remain, will be viable even if No. 5 of the Power 5.

What that means for expansion, I don't know. But if UT's support for UH's admission in exchange for Houston lawmakers and UH dropping opposition to that UT satellite campus in Houston, then it's likely to happen.

 

[RUich]

Texas, in many ways, is like Notre Dame with the obvious exception of them being in a full conference athletically, I totally agree that they may well not be worth the effort in the BIG when you factor in how they view themselves.
As I was reading the article, I thought about UCONN somehow getting in just in time to see the league implode. Brought a smile to my face.:smiley:

 

[ecojew]

Be very careful what you wish for!!! Arkansas left the old SWC just because texass wanted to try and dictate everything that they possibly could to the other schools. You will quickly add texass to your schools that you hate for a myriad of reasons. Their egos exceed their reality. All hat, no cattle. Little Nopolean syndrome. Very small hands and feet.

Most of already hate Texas, SG. They've been a de-stabilizing force in college football for several years now and seem to want to play by their own rules, as with the LHN. To me, they seem like the public version of ND, thinking they're so "special" and "exceptional." I like their new (relatively) football coach but still hope they lose (except against ND, of course.

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

Here is the money shot at the end of the article:

But if the Big 12 doesn't sign an extension of its grant of rights the way the ACC did this year, the league's long-term stability will remain dubious, at best. The contracts currently binding the conference together expire in the 2024-25 academic year.

So far, neither Texas nor Oklahoma has indicated it would agree to a grant of rights extension under any scenario. Without the extension, the clock will continue to tick on the Big 12, regardless of whether it expands or not, as the Longhorns and Sooners will be free to leave for greener pastures when the rights expire.

"If the two parents don't commit [to signing the extension]," said one industry source, "what does that tell you?"

Said another: The Big 12 "could be close to the end."

 

[RUBigFrank]

Best scenario here is Texas and Okie + Okie state and one little Tex school go to the pac 12. Left overs merge with AAC.

Seems that format would be more functional in the current college football environment.

 

[Southern Gentleman]

Most of already hate Texas, SG. They've been a de-stabilizing force in college football for several years now and seem to want to play by their own rules, as with the LHN. To me, they seem like the public version of ND, thinking they're so "special" and "exceptional." I like their new (relatively) football coach but still hope they lose (except against ND, of course.

I agree.

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

Best scenario here is Texas and Okie + Okie state and one little Tex school go to the pac 12. Left overs merge with AAC.

Seems that format would be more functional in the current college football environment.

That would make the ACC unstable with too many teams.

Pac-12 was already very clear that they do not want those schools, they could only agree on Texas.

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

As far as the Big Ten goes... nothing is going to happen for now. The Big12 GOR doesn't end until 2024-25 Which is when the latest TV contract ends with the Big Ten....cough....