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OT: Bitcoin, Altcoins, NFT's & All Things Crypto

The funniest thing about the recent GS comment was the guy said that BTC could go to zero or it could go to $1M = he basically said he didn’t know what to think. But then BS news report headlines said something like “Goldman predicts BTC to $1M” - typically news nonsense.
I get it. You are skeptical and a non believer in crypto. Rather than continuously hammering those that support or invest in crypto, how about a timeout with the criticism for a year and then revisit where everything stands at that point? Better than turning a civil conversation/thread into an antagonistic one.
 
I get it. You are skeptical and a non believer in crypto. Rather than continuously hammering those that support or invest in crypto, how about a timeout with the criticism for a year and then revisit where everything stands at that point? Better than turning a civil conversation/thread into an antagonistic one.
You clearly don’t get it because I am a believer = of technology. I deal with facts and have researched many of the projects that pumpers love to hype. Unfortunately, Most of the people running these projects are selling tokens/coins and not developing technology. Fraud and rug pulls are on a straight-line up because there is zero regulation and almost no threat of legal action. Test your advisor and ask him to explain the crypto projects/tech he’s got you invested in. No different than when he puts a stock in your portfolio you may not be familiar with. Bet he can explain that stock/company. Can he do the same for crypto positions? You should lay off me and focus more on the people that were on this thread pumping the $100K EOY BTC target. Or how countries were “lining up” to switch their currencies to BTC after El Salvador. Lost people a lot of money.
 
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You clearly don’t get it because I am a believer = of technology. I deal with facts and have researched many of the projects that pumpers love to hype. Unfortunately, Most of the people running these projects are selling tokens/coins and not developing technology. Fraud and rug pulls are on a straight-line up because there is zero regulation and almost no threat of legal action. Test your advisor and ask him to explain the crypto projects/tech he’s got you invested in. No different than when he puts a stock in your portfolio you may not be familiar with. Bet he can explain that stock/company. Can he do the same for crypto positions? You should lay off me and focus more on the people that were on this thread pumping the $100K EOY BTC target. Or how countries were “lining up” to switch their currencies to BTC after El Salvador. Lost people a lot of money.
Agree with Nut. You literally post the same thing over and over and over and over again in this thread.
 
Agree with Nut. You literally post the same thing over and over and over and over again in this thread.
I’m the only person other than perhaps Boblaw that even attempts to go beyond the old “buy X because it’s supposed to go up”. Is that what this thread is supposed to be about - pump shit without any substance or analysis? Whatever…
 
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I’m the only person other than perhaps Boblaw that even attempts to go beyond the old “buy X because it’s supposed to go up”. Is that what this thread is supposed to be about - pump shit without any substance or analysis? Whatever…
Where has Bob been anyway? Hope all is good.
 
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I enjoy reading both sides of this argument. I have some invested in crypto mostly because of FOMO. I know it’s a terrible reason but I’m honest. I believe in the investment because I believe the younger generation believes in it. Therefore as the boomers age out more and more money will pour into it. However the questions ALDO raises don’t really get answered directly here.
 
I enjoy reading both sides of this argument. I have some invested in crypto mostly because of FOMO. I know it’s a terrible reason but I’m honest. I believe in the investment because I believe the younger generation believes in it. Therefore as the boomers age out more and more money will pour into it. However the questions ALDO raises don’t really get answered directly here.
They have been answers dozens and dozens of times. He just refuses to accept the answers.
 
They have been answers dozens and dozens of times. He just refuses to accept the answers.
Rumb20 admits he’s buying purely based on spec FOMO. And I don’t have a problem with that. Most People make coin/token recommendations and they have no idea what problem the project is trying to solve or who is leading it. Next time someone gives you a crypto recommendation just try asking them to break it down for you from a tech/project perspective. You will laugh at what people will say. They have no idea.
 
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Rumb20 admits he’s buying purely based on spec FOMO. And I don’t have a problem with that. Most People make coin/token recommendations and they have no idea what problem the project is trying to solve or who is leading it. Next time someone gives you a crypto recommendation just try asking them to break it down for you from a tech/project perspective. You will laugh at what people will say. They have no idea.
You know where to go for a detailed breakdown of projects.....Guy! By the way, I mentioned this in the other thread. My crypto portfolio about doubled. I cashed out 50% (i.e., all the profit) and moved it to another account that I am now using for shorter-term stock plays. This is mostly due to the overdone tech rotation. So many tech opportunities.

I think the crypto market may be weak for a bit, so I look forward to adding back in as dips occur.
 
You know where to go for a detailed breakdown of projects.....Guy! By the way, I mentioned this in the other thread. My crypto portfolio about doubled. I cashed out 50% (i.e., all the profit) and moved it to another account that I am now using for shorter-term stock plays. This is mostly due to the overdone tech rotation. So many tech opportunities.

I think the crypto market may be weak for a bit, so I look forward to adding back in as dips occur.
FWIW, you of all people understand stock research based on your posts and all I’m saying is the same level of due diligence is never applied to crypto.
 
FWIW, you of all people understand stock research based on your posts and all I’m saying is the same level of due diligence is never applied to crypto.
If you think about today's retail stock investors, they buy stocks with little or no research. I bet there is a huge overlap between crypto and stock retail investors (i.e., mainly the younger generation). Definitely agree, no due diligence whatsoever!
 
I get it. You are skeptical and a non believer in crypto. Rather than continuously hammering those that support or invest in crypto, how about a timeout with the criticism for a year and then revisit where everything stands at that point? Better than turning a civil conversation/thread into an antagonistic one.

Lol, he is not “hammering” people, or their opinions. He’s providing an alternative opinion. And his questions about crypto are very thoughtful and not inconsistent with with what I hear from the top financial minds in the world. I’m not sure if crypto is “rat poison squared”, but it certainly might be.
 
Lol, he is not “hammering” people, or their opinions. He’s providing an alternative opinion. And his questions about crypto are very thoughtful and not inconsistent with with what I hear from the top financial minds in the world. I’m not sure if crypto is “rat poison squared”, but it certainly might be.
 
So are Ponzi schemes, penny stocks, Nigerian kings, social security robocalls, etc.
Just slightly different considering the magnitude of the amounts at stake, not to mention people pumping them across social and traditional media without regulation - which is slightly different (I.e., penny stocks = SEC; robocalls = FCC; Ponzi = DOJ, etc.). But I’ll leave the warnings and cynicism to regulators since I wouldn’t want to be accused of “hammering” anyone here with facts…LOL…yes, Nigerian prince email is the same as a rug-pull…
 
One thing BTC has done which I think is notable is it has maintained a level above $30K for an entire year, and has maintained above $40K for the last 5 months.

The $100K eoy was never hit (did get to $69K for a second) but it's ability to maintain these once considered lofty levels is significant.
 
I did see a crytpo bear on CNBC after fast money tonight, and he said that BTC's down ward trend in the face of current inflation is indicative of the fact that it is not an inflation hedge.

Now I disagree with this take. I think what we have seen is the BTC market took off in anticipation of inflation. It, as markets tend to do, was fwd looking. It's come down off it's highs perhaps because looking fwd, the market thinks inflation will come down.

So where will BTC go as inflation cools off? I think that depends on further institutional acceptance. Does that acceptance raise BTC even as inflation cools? That to me is the question.
 
Bitcoin crushes every other asset class over the last decade and it's not even remotely close.

Imagine being wrong for a decade and still think you are right?
 
I did see a crytpo bear on CNBC after fast money tonight, and he said that BTC's down ward trend in the face of current inflation is indicative of the fact that it is not an inflation hedge.

Now I disagree with this take. I think what we have seen is the BTC market took off in anticipation of inflation. It, as markets tend to do, was fwd looking. It's come down off it's highs perhaps because looking fwd, the market thinks inflation will come down.

So where will BTC go as inflation cools off? I think that depends on further institutional acceptance. Does that acceptance raise BTC even as inflation cools? That to me is the question.
BTC seems to be moving inline with the QQQ. BTC actually doesn't like high inflation. It likes Feds pumping. High inflation means less pumping.
 
BTC seems to be moving inline with the QQQ. BTC actually doesn't like high inflation. It likes Feds pumping. High inflation means less pumping.
But again fwd looking. The fed pumping helped cause the inflation. but now the inflation is helping slow down the pumping, but the pumping was going to stop eventually anyway.
 
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Anyone here in Helium or Fantom?

2 of my favorite lesser known crypto projects compared to the top 10 blue chip types
 
Has anyone tried yield farming on Francium, Orca, etc? I’m holding two coins from IDO longer term related to Solana projects and have been lending them/farming and the returns are pretty fantastic thus far.
 
Has anyone tried yield farming on Francium, Orca, etc? I’m holding two coins from IDO longer term related to Solana projects and have been lending them/farming and the returns are pretty fantastic thus far.
I know not of this, how is it done?
 
I know not of this, how is it done?
The lending is pretty straightforward. You lend/stake your coins to the exchange so they can allow them to be traded. Since these coins are in relatively short supply, the exchange offers pretty attractive rates for lending. The two I’m currently holding (SHDW and BASIS) are earning 16 and 40% interest. Those numbers will likely come down a bit as more money comes into the pool.

The farming I’m still very new to and this is much more complicated. In addition to earning interest on your deposited coins, you also earn rewards- portions of the fees on trading, etc. More info on that here:

A lot of the positions require balancing with Usdc/Usdt so the rates for lending those are around 6-7% which is obviously crazy.
 
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The lending is pretty straightforward. You lend/stake your coins to the exchange so they can allow them to be traded. Since these coins are in relatively short supply, the exchange offers pretty attractive rates for lending. The two I’m currently holding (SHDW and BASIS) are earning 16 and 40% interest. Those numbers will likely come down a bit as more money comes into the pool.

The farming I’m still very new to and this is much more complicated. In addition to earning interest on your deposited coins, you also earn rewards- portions of the fees on trading, etc. More info on that here:

A lot of the positions require balancing with Usdc/Usdt so the rates for lending those are around 6-7% which is obviously crazy.
I own Cosmos and Algorand and earn 5% and 4% respectively.

I just keep them in my coinbase account. Is that akin to staking? IE not putting them in a wallet?
 
One thing BTC has done which I think is notable is it has maintained a level above $30K for an entire year, and has maintained above $40K for the last 5 months.

The $100K eoy was never hit (did get to $69K for a second) but it's ability to maintain these once considered lofty levels is significant.

Well, that’s one way to look at it. Others might note that for the last 11 mo it’s down 20%, and 33% for the last 9 months while the S&P is up 12%.
 
Bears love to cherry pick dates. LOL!

I certainly did cherry pick dates, as did RU-05. Curious why you didn’t question RU-05 cherry picking that Bitcoin held above $40k for 5 months, when within the last 6 not only did it drop below $40k, it dropped below $30k on July 20.

I’m just here to provide some balance, which is needed at times. Bitcoin has had a great run, but it is struggling at this point; that’s a fact. Investing would be scary if everyone looked at every financial instrument without knowing the risks.
 
I certainly did cherry pick dates, as did RU-05. Curious why you didn’t question RU-05 cherry picking that Bitcoin held above $40k for 5 months, when within the last 6 not only did it drop below $40k, it dropped below $30k on July 20.

I’m just here to provide some balance, which is needed at times. Bitcoin has had a great run, but it is struggling at this point; that’s a fact. Investing would be scary if everyone looked at every financial instrument without knowing the risks.
I didn't cherry pick dates, I noted how long it has held a certain level.
 
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The lending is pretty straightforward. You lend/stake your coins to the exchange so they can allow them to be traded. Since these coins are in relatively short supply, the exchange offers pretty attractive rates for lending. The two I’m currently holding (SHDW and BASIS) are earning 16 and 40% interest. Those numbers will likely come down a bit as more money comes into the pool.

The farming I’m still very new to and this is much more complicated. In addition to earning interest on your deposited coins, you also earn rewards- portions of the fees on trading, etc. More info on that here:

A lot of the positions require balancing with Usdc/Usdt so the rates for lending those are around 6-7% which is obviously crazy.
You can stake USD stable coins on ANKR for 20% APY
 
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