OT: Eat Your Wheaties
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Times are not changing. Trans folks have existed in civilizations throught the course of human history and were even revered in some cultures.
Revered? Really? Not doubting you but if they were such a hot commodity couldn't people just throw on a skirt and lie?
She's had 20+ hours of facial feminization surgery including shaving down her forehead and chin and clearly a bit of a facelift. Look at her arms, no photo shop or airbrushing there. I think she looks awesome and, without question, better looking than her ex Kris Jenner mother to the Kardashian spawn.
At the end of the day and countless hours and expense, it's still a dude. With a dick. In a dress.
tranny's are revered now. If you don't worship them, you're the worst person on the planet, according to facebook and twitter.
and shame on ESPN for giving this MAN a courage award when other people are fighting terminal illness and overcoming actual obstacles.
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I'm a live and let live kinda guy, but Bruce is a haggard Cindy Crawford tranny.
I thought there was a rule about the new tranny name. Don't you have to keep the first initial. Shouldn't he have gone with Brenda or Barbara?
I thought there was a rule about the new tranny name. Don't you have to keep the first initial. Shouldn't he have gone with Brenda or Barbara?
he keeps saying that he was born a woman. except that he was born with male genitalia, no breasts, male hormonal complexion, in male teachers and properties in every appreciable way. What part has him was born a woman? I can't help but believe that this is just a mental illness that was pushed to the point of extreme circus attraction for the sake of television ratings.the amazing thing is that is only weeks remove from killing another person while driving recklessly, but even that could not stand in the way of the big reveal.
If he was genuinely "born a woman" then the IOC would have no choice but to strip him of his Olympic medals and erase his name from the record books. Women are not allowed to compete in men's events.
Keeping up with the Kardashians. LOL. He just outdid all the Kardashians every stupid move in their lives in one single magazine cover!
And ESPN (ABC) jumps into the insanity by announcing the he will be awarded the Arthur Ashe Courage Award. Getting breasts is courageous??
And ESPN (ABC) jumps into the insanity by announcing the he will be awarded the Arthur Ashe Courage Award. Getting breasts is courageous??
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I'm thinking that's not actually the "real question" in all this, but I'll answer it anyway: NO!
There are essentially 3 elements of your identity. There is your preference of who you are attracted to, your physical sexual characteristics, and gender identity. For the transgendered their physical self does not match with personal sense of gender identity. They always have the sense of being of one gender but have the physical characteristics of the other. For some transgendered, it is simply that. For others they are not clearly 1 sex or another. There are several conditions from being a hermaphrodite, to having trisomy of the sex chromosomes that create a conflict between their sense of self and physical sex.
I think it is a tragic predicament that I can't conceive being in. Over 40 percent of transgendered people attempt suicide. I'm not an expert on the issue and will likely never understand it or have a true sense of empathy, but I can recognize their reality and have sympathy for for their situation
Could you imagine the strangeness of waking up tomorrow in a body that wasn't your own and another sex than your own? You may joke about how wonderful it is but I'm sure the novelty would wear off, and the feeling that your body was alien to you in its current state would be overwhelming.
Some people seem quite offended that this is a news story but it definitely is a news story. A man who was the literal Olympic ideal of masculinity turned out to be a woman trapped in a man's body.
Oh jeeze. There is always someone that has to pee on a light hearted thread.
Do we always have to circle around to politically correct crap?
There was nothing light hearted about King high's post. I wasn't circling around political correctness. I wasn't calling out anyone's post. I don't think it should be off limits to joke about. King high expressed confusion over the subject and attempted to clarify. Your perceived board crime never happened.
I appreciate your post Jiggs. I enjoy learning and try to empathize with others. Sad that on a Rutgers message board we have posters that mock book learnin'
There were no actual books cited in his post.
Furthermore, I'm willing to bet that the bulk of his knowledge comes not from actual books, but from HuffPo, et al.
But nice attempt at trolling. You do it well.
You have me pegged completely wrong. I don't touch the Huffington Post, but congrats on the lazy thinking. Someone disagrees with you thus you dismiss them for an association for which you have no evidence. You are usually reasonable but don't insult me by claiming I get my knowledge from a rag.
I don't recall actually disagreeing with you.
I do congratulate you, though, for at least insinuating that gender dysfunction is a psychological disorder.
Do you also advocate that depressed people should be euthanized and alcoholics should be given access to booze to treat their diseases? "Treating" a person who has unresolved gender identity issues by removing their penis and giving them silicone breasts instead of behavioral therapy is the medical equivalent.
Of course no one puts money in Bruce Jenner's pocket if he has a show about going to a therapist.
I honestly don't know that it can be cured by therapy. I suspect many things can't be cured by therapy and are innate. I think for most transgendered their sexual identity is innate. Do consider that not everyone is born strictly male or strictly female. How do you resolve a body that doesn't match either a male or female identity.
Do you think homosexuals can be "cured" with therapy? Could you be cured of your sexual preference with therapy. Some people think that believing an imaginary being controls the universe is a mental disorder. Is it OK to give those people a book that reinforces that delusion?
I think Vanity Fair is doing a disservice to Bruce/Caitlyn's journey. I watched parts of the Diane Sawyer interview and Jenner was constantly hammering the point of just "wanting to be me". Well, that airbrushed/photoshopped person on the front of VF is not "you". It won't be long before the TMZ's of the world begin snapping candid photos of Caitlyn, which will come off looking like a 65 year-old guy in a dress.
BTW...what 65 year-old is named "Caitlyn"? Did this win out over Ashley, Taylor, and Brianna? Should've gone for something a little more age appropriate.
BTW...what 65 year-old is named "Caitlyn"? Did this win out over Ashley, Taylor, and Brianna? Should've gone for something a little more age appropriate.
I don't believe homosexuality is a disorder or mental illness, and I don't believe the purpose of therapy is to "cure" a mental illness. I do believe that a person born with XY chromosomes is a male, and any therapy should be used to help that person accept that settled science refutes whatever issues he has with the gender he believes is trapped within him.
I don't see anyone posting in here that they don't care, and frankly that strawman doesn't stand up when it is the lead story on every news media & the top trending topic on both Twitter & Facebook. If you are connected to any media source, this is being shoved down your throat
He needed therapy not hormones. Seems like there is a ton of regret from people who mutilate themselves like this.
http://www.sexchangeregret.com/
http://www.sexchangeregret.com/
