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I know this is probably brought up around here fairly often, but I would appreciate some guidance on the topic...

I know the basics and 4Cs, but wanted to know of any recommendations in the NJ/NYC area. Also curious if anyone has experience with online retailers like Blue Nile and James Allen. I understand this isn't an investment, but I would obviously like to get her the best ring I can within my budget. Any insight is welcome (besides "Don't do it!" haha). Thanks!

Edit: I know the type and style I want to get her. I just don't know how to actually begin the process of buying it.
 
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bostonknight11 said:
I know this is probably brought up around here fairly often, but I would appreciate some guidance on the topic...

I know the basics and 4Cs, but wanted to know of any recommendations in the NJ/NYC area. Also curious if anyone has experience with online retailers like Blue Nile and James Allen. I understand this isn't an investment, but I would obviously like to get her the best ring I can within my budget. Any insight is welcome (besides "Don't do it!" haha). Thanks!
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Don't do it! Sorry could not resist. I was from North Jersey when I got engaged and shopped for the ring both locally and in NYC diamond district. I actually went to Steven Singer in Philly and got the best deal on a two carrat quality stone. Singer even let me take the stone that day to get it independently appraised to insure the size and quality were what I was promised. My advice would be shop around and take your time. By your third marriage you will be an expert. :sunglasses::sunglasses::sunglasses:
 
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If you can gracefully figure out her jewelry style, that's your best bet. Observe her current jewelry. If you can, get a sibling's advice (but be careful -- they might spoil the surprise!). Take advantage of those diamond ring commercials ("If I could, that's the diamond ring I'd pick out for you." -- take note of her reaction).

Some girls like classy. Some girls like flashy. And all else in-between.

But always remember: It's far more important that you pick the right woman than you do the right ring.

Congratulations & good luck!
 
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My recommendation...

If you really know her (and you should by now if you're planning on proposing) she doesn't need to be with you.

Also, make sure you ask her parents.
 
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Kornblum Jewelry in Linden. Very honest guys. I'm in Morris County but felt compelled going to them. I know enough about diamonds since my dad was a jeweler back in the day (passed in 98). Worth the ride.
 
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i had a great experience with B2C (one of Blue Nile's competitors) and got the setting done with Adler's in Westfield. Did my insurance valuation there too.
 
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Blue nile will offer you better pricing than other retailers. Its a compromise between great deal and secure & safe transaction without the fluff at the mainstream retailers. NYC diamond district can give you the best prices but be prepared to haggle.
 
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bostonknight11 said:
I know this is probably brought up around here fairly often, but I would appreciate some guidance on the topic...

I know the basics and 4Cs, but wanted to know of any recommendations in the NJ/NYC area. Also curious if anyone has experience with online retailers like Blue Nile and James Allen. I understand this isn't an investment, but I would obviously like to get her the best ring I can within my budget. Any insight is welcome (besides "Don't do it!" haha). Thanks!

Edit: I know the type and style I want to get her. I just don't know how to actually begin the process of buying it.
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(The search feature is a great resource)

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Waaaay OT: Jewelers:

https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/threads/waaaay-ot-jewelers.113098

OT: Engagement Ring Spend:

https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/threads/ot-engagement-ring-spend.99803

 
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miketd1 said:
But always remember: It's far more important that you pick the right woman than you do the right ring.
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midetb1 and I can get beers.

The first night I was hanging with my future wife, in a loud bar, with dozens of other co workers, we were making fun of all the fakeness around us. "I don't want a ring. I want a house," was only nail in the coffin I needed.

We married 10 months later in Central park with 9 people in attendance. We put our money in a house and dividend stocks.


Be careful kid
 
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MozRU said:
With all due respect e5fdny:
Why? Is the guy taking her out of her parents house at 16, providing 10 acres of land that will provide her and 5 babies food and shelter? The 1800s are over. Let it go.
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I haven't negotiated her dowry yet... In all seriousness, while not asking for "permission", I will let them know ahead of time as a courtesy.
 
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I haven't negotiated her dowry yet... In all seriousness, while not asking for "permission", I will let them know ahead of time as a courtesy.
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Insist on goats or cattle as a dowry. Also insist they must be delivered to the ceremony or the wedding is off. This will be the only time you have leverage with your in-laws.
 
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One vote for James Allen. It worked out very well for me. Yes, it is weird buying a diamond online, but I did not have any issues.
 
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Insist on goats or cattle as a dowry. Also insist they must be delivered to the ceremony or the wedding is off. This will be the only time you have leverage with your in-laws.
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notifying her parents before the fact is unnecessary and implies that you are acquiring her. I can't think of a better way to upset your intended. Don't do it!
 
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notifying her parents before the fact is unnecessary and implies that you are acquiring her. I can't think of a better way to upset your intended. Don't do it!
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I understand your point. It is unnecessary, but it's important to them. Therefore, I am going to do it. Edit: Also important to my girlfriend that I speak with them first.
 
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notifying her parents before the fact is unnecessary and implies that you are acquiring her. I can't think of a better way to upset your intended. Don't do it!
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disagree with this (unless the daughter has a terrible relationship with her parents) Its not a matter of acquisition, its a sign of respect. I dont believe that you have to be old school and "ask for her hand in marriage" but its a time to get with them and state your intentions.

I sat down with her parents individually (they were divorced) and basically said Hey Mr.D and Mrs D, i just want to let you know that i'll be proposing to your daughter and i hope to have your blessing.

Also in our case, i had our families involved in the proposal so it was a time to go over where i needed them to be and when.
 
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I rescued my bro's fiance's engagement ring out of the sewer line after my nephew flushed it down the toilet.

It was about 3/4's of the way down the line towards the big drop to oblivion.
 
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Use online as a price check. So get the stats on some diamonds you are considering at a brick and mortar, and then compare those prices to Blue Nile. Then negotiate accordingly. Blue Nile is a tremendous resource, because it adds transparency to diamond pricing.

The big scam is that diamonds are priced on 4 primary sliding scales. So the issue with any brick and mortar store is that you cannot compare apples to apples. They simply dont have enough diamonds. They show three diamonds, and all have different sizing, color and clarity. You cannot compare like that, so you have no idea which is the best deal.

On Blue Nile, you can look at 100 diamonds, all with the same color and clarity. Then you can see how the price is for various sizes. Then you can downgrade just the clarity, and see how the price changes.
 
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can someone explain WHY a piece of highly compressed carbon is worth anything except for being on a grinding/cutting device?
 
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camdenlawprof said:
notifying her parents before the fact is unnecessary and implies that you are acquiring her. I can't think of a better way to upset your intended. Don't do it!
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wtf are you talking about? it's a sign of respect to the new family and nothing more. Where the hell do you people come up with this $hit???

that said, you are better off buying a boat, keep dating her and date other women at the same time. marriage is stifling to say the least..lol
 
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can someone explain WHY a piece of highly compressed carbon is worth anything except for being on a grinding/cutting device?
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it sparkles and is perceived to be rare and therefore has value.
You can ask this about gold, copper, platinum, or paper bills. lol

Its also a great way to move a tremendous amount of money in a concealed fashion. I know a few guys who buy and stash stones instead of cash.
 
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theRU said:
it sparkles and is perceived to be rare and therefore has value.
You can ask this about gold, copper, platinum, or paper bills. lol

Its also a great way to move a tremendous amount of money in a concealed fashion. I know a few guys who buy and stash stones instead of cash.
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thing is though.. when the world goes to sht, the only things worth anything are tools/supplies to survive... diamonds have no value imo
 
theRU said:
it sparkles and is perceived to be rare and therefore has value.
You can ask this about gold, copper, platinum, or paper bills. lol

Its also a great way to move a tremendous amount of money in a concealed fashion. I know a few guys who buy and stash stones instead of cash.
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It makes your woman feel sexy and wanted. That's pretty damn useful, if you ask me.

If you don't do a good job in this area, someone else will.
 
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thing is though.. when the world goes to sht, the only things worth anything are tools/supplies to survive... diamonds have no value imo
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thats why you gotta have 10000 rounds of 5.56 stored in the garage. However to be fair, history has proven otherwise. Durring ww1 and ww2 diamonds were the preferred method to move money.
 
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It makes your woman feel sexy and wanted. That's pretty damn useful, if you ask me.

If you don't do a good job in this area, someone else will.
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or you could just do the freaky things she wants in the sack?
 
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thats why you gotta have 10000 rounds of 5.56 stored in the garage. However to be fair, history has proven otherwise. Durring ww1 and ww2 diamonds were the preferred method to move money.
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you're weird... please go get help immediately
 
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or you could just do the freaky things she wants in the sack?
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If you're not showering your girl with attention (and not just in the sack), I can guarantee someone would be glad to fill the huge void you are leaving.
 
R1776U said:
thing is though.. when the world goes to sht, the only things worth anything are tools/supplies to survive... diamonds have no value imo
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You going to give your girlfriend a shovel and ask for her to marry you?
 
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