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OT: Frat brother suing Penn St

The last sentence is fantastic. Freakin made my day.

"I don't think it's hard to make the connection to the Sandusky affair here," he said. "The attitude of keeping this in-house, perhaps looking the other way, certainly being painfully slow to respond, is identical."
 
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Another abuse scandal, but I thought they learned their lesson...

Drinking urine, stay classy TTFP

Who is dumber the fraternity kids or the NJ parents who send their kids to TTFP despite the lower ranking and abuse, I guess considering RU has higher SAT and GPA scores, but I'm sure there are safety schools like Delaware that are less abuse inclined for the NJ parent who must show up that mom in the Shop Rite line by paying 40k a year for little Johnny or Suzie to join a cult. Maybe Scientology would take 35k..
 
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Sorry this isn't strictly for the OP. But can we go at least one day without a new Penn State thread.
Half the crap like this and the post about them getting a bowl share isn't earth shattering or even interesting enough to care except for a limited few.
Sorry to the OP again. This isn't all about this post
 
You don't think this goes on at other schools? You guys love to throw rocks in a glass house too often
 
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Another abuse scandal, but I thought they learned their lesson...

Drinking urine, stay classy TTFP

Who is dumber the fraternity kids or the NJ parents who send their kids to TTFP despite the lower ranking and abuse, I guess considering RU has higher SAT and GPA scores, but I'm sure there are safety schools like Delaware that are less abuse inclined for the NJ parent who must show up that mom in the Shop Rite line by paying 40k a year for little Johnny or Suzie to join a cult. Maybe Scientology would take 35k..
Well my NJ kid just graduated and did just fine there. You don't have to understand why we send our kids there because you are not responsible for their tuition. Worry about why kids NJ kids do not want to attend RU. And I hate to burst your bubble but only in that one ranking you tout that nobody else seems to give damn about is RU ranked higher.

You have love for your school, great! No reason to keep putting down others-- you made your choice, stop hatin' my dude!
 
Another abuse scandal, but I thought they learned their lesson...

Drinking urine, stay classy TTFP

Who is dumber the fraternity kids or the NJ parents who send their kids to TTFP despite the lower ranking and abuse, I guess considering RU has higher SAT and GPA scores, but I'm sure there are safety schools like Delaware that are less abuse inclined for the NJ parent who must show up that mom in the Shop Rite line by paying 40k a year for little Johnny or Suzie to join a cult. Maybe Scientology would take 35k..
One more thing--your posts are always vile and hateful. You need to get a life because anybody who posts what you do clearly isn't happy with his. #gethelp
 
Well my NJ kid just graduated and did just fine there. You don't have to understand why we send our kids there because you are not responsible for their tuition. Worry about why kids NJ kids do not want to attend RU. And I hate to burst your bubble but only in that one ranking you tout that nobody else seems to give damn about is RU ranked higher.

You have love for your school, great! No reason to keep putting down others-- you made your choice, stop hatin' my dude!

For someone to whom it has been made abundantly clear is unwelcome, you come back an awful lot.
 
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For someone to whom it has been made abundantly clear is unwelcome, you come back an awful lot.
Aww, well it is a free board after all and I think I'm rather cordial to folks like you. Posts like NotinRwhatever deserve to be responded. He needs to seek help.
 
Aww, well it is a free board after all and I think I'm rather cordial to folks like you. Posts like NotinRwhatever deserve to be responded. He needs to seek help.

There's a difference between "cordial" and "obtuse".

You can try to (sort of) cordially justify attending PSU all you want. That will never overtake the fact that most of us hate everything associated with the school.

And no, it's not rational. But it is our board.
 
The very idea that they would actually put urine in it.. well, it teaches the exact opposite thing such hazing "trusts test" were meant to instill.. don't trust your future brothers telling you to drink.

Think of that movie that had the cinder blocks tied to strings tied to.. pledges private parts.. "Old School" maybe? More line than drop distance.. thus no pulling... it is supposed to be about trust, however juvenile it may be.
 
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How am I being hateful....btw today the Pope established a new anti child abuse commission and meanwhile TTFP gets two new abuse allegations in one week and is mostly concerned about building a statue to the guy who protected a pedophile.

Facts are not hate. However you want to justify supporting an institution that has turned a blind eye to violent felonies for decades...
 
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There's a difference between "cordial" and "obtuse".

You can try to (sort of) cordially justify attending PSU all you want. That will never overtake the fact that most of us hate everything associated with the school.

And no, it's not rational. But it is our board.

Hate is a very strong word. I highly doubt that most here hate everything about Penn State.

I personally don't care for Penn State, but I am well short of hate.
 
Another abuse scandal, but I thought they learned their lesson...

Drinking urine, stay classy TTFP

Who is dumber the fraternity kids or the NJ parents who send their kids to TTFP despite the lower ranking and abuse, I guess considering RU has higher SAT and GPA scores, but I'm sure there are safety schools like Delaware that are less abuse inclined for the NJ parent who must show up that mom in the Shop Rite line by paying 40k a year for little Johnny or Suzie to join a cult. Maybe Scientology would take 35k..

Do you think it doesn't happen at Rutgers? Do you forget about the six sorority members at Rutgers charged with felony hazing at Rutgers? Does the name Caitlyn Kovacs ring any bells? Rutgers Greek life has had their fair share of horror stories. Every university has their fair share of idiots. I hope you do realize that there are many University rankings many of which have Penn State ranked higher. Rutgers and Penn State are both fine universities. No parent should be ashamed to send their kids to either school.
 
Do you think it doesn't happen at Rutgers? Do you forget about the six sorority members at Rutgers charged with felony hazing at Rutgers? Does the name Caitlyn Kovacs ring any bells? Rutgers Greek life has had their fair share of horror stories. Every university has their fair share of idiots. I hope you do realize that there are many University rankings many of which have Penn State ranked higher. Rutgers and Penn State are both fine universities. No parent should be ashamed to send their kids to either school.

Yes. You're right. A freshman girl who tragically drank too much and died is EXACTLY THE SAME as harboring a pedophile for 30 years and drugging women to take naked pictures of them and post them on the internet.

F*ckin' asshole.
 
Yes. You're right. A freshman girl who tragically drank too much and died is EXACTLY THE SAME as harboring a pedophile for 30 years and drugging women to take naked pictures of them and post them on the internet.

F*ckin' asshole.
I never said they were the same. I am only saying that Rutgers has had their own share of incidents in the greek life system.
 
I never said they were the same. I am only saying that Rutgers has had their own share of incidents in the greek life system.

Whatever that's supposed to mean. The level of behavior doesn't remotely equate. PSU is a cesspool.
 
I think PSU is a very good school and a great place to send your kid, if you so desire. The PSU grads and families I know are great people and strong supporters of their school.
Same goes for the many RU grads and families I associate with.
 
Zappa, you forgot the but part. The story here is not about stupid frat kids. That happens at every school. The story is the slow response by the school. RU is more known to go over the top.
 
State Penn officially lost it's right to say "No big deal it happens at other schools".

Do yourselves a favor and stop saying that. you continue to make yourselves look really bad by doing that.

Keep your yappers shut and be happy that you were not punished.
 
The last sentence is fantastic. Freakin made my day.

"I don't think it's hard to make the connection to the Sandusky affair here," he said. "The attitude of keeping this in-house, perhaps looking the other way, certainly being painfully slow to respond, is identical."


The lawyer who said that is an imbecile.

Can you say money grab?
 
Zappa, you forgot the but part. The story here is not about stupid frat kids. That happens at every school. The story is the slow response by the school. RU is more known to go over the top.
He alleging a slow response. Penn State side of the story said he refused to make a formal complaint that they could act upon. We will have to let the court decide which side is the truth.
 
He alleging a slow response. Penn State side of the story said he refused to make a formal complaint that they could act upon. We will have to let the court decide which side is the truth.

I don't trust Penn St to put out a completely honest response and sure a deal will be reached paying the kid off, but part of that deal will be:
not to divulge the amount PSU paid and not talk about anything in the lawsuit again.
Then Penn St will announce a settlement acknowledging the Fraternity violated PSU's rules and that's why Penn St settled.
But will make a point of saying because of no formal complaint was made the investigation process took longer than they liked , but they acted as quickly as they could on the matter and took care of it despite no formal complaint was made.

I doubt the court will decide which side is the truth, the suit will be settled before the court decides and the truth will not get out, unless Penn St
decides it must prove it did it's best and goes all the way to do that by letting the court decide whose telling the truth.
Could be , because of no formal complaint, Penn St did what it could do and Vivenzio is only after money , not justice.
If Penn St did what it claimed ( offered him assistance on numerous occasions) and the Vivenzio didn't take them up on that and refused to file a complaint, provide documentation, speak with State College Police or participate in pursuing the formal disciplinary process, could be Penn St is getting a bum rap and the court will rule in their favor.
 
While I'm more than happy to pile on PSU at every turn and I don't doubt the school didn't handle this perfectly I don't trust the kid. Failed out,Alcoholic, had to be hospitalized fbecuase of the trauma etc. Seems like a kid who liked to party and now wants an excuse for his poor decisions.
 
Wake me up when PSU suspends the entire fraternal system for a few weeks and launches a large public anti-hazing campaign.
 
The difference is the cover up....after what happned with Rice, which we all condemned, no one would even try that, their covered would be blown in hours.
 
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