Gregg Marshall can almost get any job he wants If/when he leaves, I don't think he would settle for Syracuse.
OT: Hopkins Bolts Cuse for Washington
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Gregg Marshall can almost get any job he wants If/when he leaves, I don't think he would settle for Syracuse.
Syracuse is a top job, it wouldn't be settling, other than Carolina, Ucla, Kentucky, its as a good of a job as there is out there.
Talk about delusional. It is UCONN with a better conference affiliation, but one where it doesn't fit in.
It is very difficult to replace a legend, particularly in a place that was built during an age where things were significantly different.
Syracuse will have to hire a name brand coach after Boeheim final retires.
Also pay more than their paying Boeheim now ($2+ mil a year) to get one that can keep Syracuse thought of as one of the top MBB programs.
But if Boeheim has the Orange looking like one of the best again, Syracuse won't have any trouble in getting the top of the line, standing in live to replace JB.
They might even be able to put someone on staff as HC without hurting their recruiting top talent.
If Syracuse ( under Boeheim) becomes a middle of pack type of program, they might be competing with the Wake Forrests for their next HC when JB calls it quits because the recruits might not consider Syracuse a desired basketball location anymore.
Also pay more than their paying Boeheim now ($2+ mil a year) to get one that can keep Syracuse thought of as one of the top MBB programs.
But if Boeheim has the Orange looking like one of the best again, Syracuse won't have any trouble in getting the top of the line, standing in live to replace JB.
They might even be able to put someone on staff as HC without hurting their recruiting top talent.
If Syracuse ( under Boeheim) becomes a middle of pack type of program, they might be competing with the Wake Forrests for their next HC when JB calls it quits because the recruits might not consider Syracuse a desired basketball location anymore.
That's probably the best he ever looked. More flattering than the one picking his nose.
I don't know how Cuse constantly raided NJ for talent but it has happened for years. Was Hopkins the lead recruiter for if he was perhaps Cuse will not get as many NJ kids. I can never understand why so many kids would want to play in the tundra of NY state? I am happy for Hopkins to get his own team. It seems as if he was just strung along year in and year out.
Of note, even though Cuse managed to find their way to the Final Four in 2016 (after winning just 18 games prior to the tournament), this is the lowest 3-year win total that Boeheim has seen since 1982-84. Boeheim has only had fewer than 20 wins four times in his tenure as Syracuse HC, and two of those have been in the last three seasons.
Hoping that trend continues.
I was surprised that Boeheim only won one national championship, 25 years ago. For alll the press this guy got over the years for being such a hall-of-fame coach, I thought he would have won a bunch of them. Meanwhile, Calhoun at Connecticut won three of them in about half the time at Connecticut. I guess Calhoun was a much better coach.
Syracuse won in 2003 with Carmelo Anthony. Not sure what Championship from 25 years ago you're referring to.
Acc, one of the best college bball venues in the nation, Great practice facility, great history, great fan support, your in a place where you are the number one show in town, I know you hate Syracuse, but what am I missing here?
Winning titles are hard, Boeheim has also been to more Final Fours. He lost a title game by a point, and lost a title game to the 96 Kentucky team that is one of the best teams I have ever seen, and the game wasn't decided until the final minutes. He also took a ten seed to the Final Four.
After my playing days I remained close with a couple folks in the AAU scene. They used to joke there were two rules in college recruiting:
- Always sit behind the basket when you are watching a kid you really want to land
- You don't have enough cash to recruit against Calipari, Calhoun or Boeheim.
Definitely great venue, fan support, and history. I think it is fair to equate the stature of Syracuse basketball with Penn State in football. Will go through relative down periods and won't likely have runs year after year with the best of the best, but very solid programs with a chance to be elite at least one year out of every four or so.
But that said, look at Indiana, who I think is likely in a comparable position to succeed as Syracuse. It is tough to follow a legend, and you still have to hire the right coach to succeed. They have found some success since Knight, but not nearly as much as they had been accustomed to prior to that.
From a Syracuse fan's standpoint, Boeheim is 72 years old. At some point, guys hang on too long and it becomes better for the program to step aside before a downward slide that makes the job for the next guy more of a challenge. Many many examples of this in college sports.
Here in Seattle people seem 50:50 about the hire....but mainly over what looks to be a lot of the top recruits planning to jump ship. Supposedly UWs class was rated 2 nationally. Seattle is definitely a better locale than Syracuse any day and the UW facilities are pretty nice.
if Boeheim coaches another 5-6 years he will turn that program into another Rutgers womens hoops under CVS
Could be.
Winning ( except this year) but not enough for tourney might be in the cards like it hads been lately under Stringer. The 2014-15 season was the last appearance for RU WBB and Vivian's teams only made the Tourney 11 out of the last 15 years including this disastrous season. But one time in the last 5 years does give concern and 2 WNIT bids in that timeline doesn't make that look better.
So I can see why some are worried.
Maybe your opinion stated here about RU WBB will worry Syracuse fans about how the Orange will do under Boeheim since it was posted in a tread talking about Orange MBB coaches.[winking]
I think despite everything Boeheim's MBB program has gotten far more support from the Syracuse administration than CVS has from Rutgers.
Both are name brands, one has the backing that helps success.
But we'll see if JB has stayed to long, or if CVS rights the ship next year.
I'll be rooting for CVS, but not JB.:okay:
Orange830 seems like a nice guy. He likes his school. No problem. But I could just imagine the reaction on the Syracuse message board if "Scarlett830" were over there extolling the greatness of Rutgers. Just a little bit different reception. Someone should go over there as "Scarlett830" just for laughs.
Highly touted recruiting classes didn't do much for Romar. Fortunately for Hopkins the team was so bad last season with a lot of talent, he likely can beat the win total even if the cupboard is bare.
True....from what I noticed (we've only been here 15 months so far) that he had a few one and done guys last year that are in the NBA. Not that it's an excuse as I think they supposedly underachieved as well and Kentucky seems to win under similar circumstances. I think what did Romar in this season was the 12 or 13 game losing streak in the PAC to end the season.
Madhat
CVS with a lack of support ?
Please
The most overpaid employee on campus relative to results .
Want proof of her support ?
She's still here.
CVS with a lack of support ?
Please
The most overpaid employee on campus relative to results .
Want proof of her support ?
She's still here.
To be fair, I think the kind of support that's been lacking is similar in some ways to the support the men's team has lacked... facilities, promotion, etc. CVS has long complained that we play "in a high school gym" and that the locker room and workout facilities have been poor. WBBall recruiting is different, because you can't leave early and there isn't the same financial windfall from making the pros - so the "exposure" angle of drawing the eye of pro scouts isn't nearly the same draw.
CVS herself has support from the administration (she's still here), but the support for the program itself has long been lacking (which is true on the men's side, as well).
oh she was getting one million plus for several years for a sport that was a money loser and draws declining attendance...lets not go too deep into support. And I agree the poor conditions that mens and womens play in hurt.but thats not the reason she couldnt do much with 4 WNBA players is it making only one NCAA in their time here. Thats not the reason her top 5 class she brought in was a collossal failure
I go to numerous HS games and the RAC isn't a HS gym.
Maybe she should look in the mirror and examine why they play in front of HS crowds ? Or examine why her attrition rate on recruits is so high ?
But she'll be back and everyone knows why they just won't say it.
Maybe she should look in the mirror and examine why they play in front of HS crowds ? Or examine why her attrition rate on recruits is so high ?
But she'll be back and everyone knows why they just won't say it.
what is this commonly known secret? please enlighten us. The reason she will be back is because she is a hall of fame coach worthy of great respect and the benefit of the doubt.
Hopkins Bolts Cuse for Washington
Bashing CVS in progress.
Boeheim's extension tied to Stringer and hijack of this thread helped by my defending Vivian.
Shame I just didn't ask the complainers to take it to the WBB board instead of helping hijack this thread.
My apologizes to those who were intreasted in discussing an issue without hearing those who want Stringer gone and whine about her any chance they get on every SN board.
The odds are that Stringer will be back and that discussion has been on the WBB board numerous times with the usual whining and fighting about it.
Will Hopkins succeed should be the question.
Can Boeheim bring the Orange back to glory would be another good one.
What do those that want to discuss the issue the OP raised think about those questions and other matters should be discussed where they are more applicable .
But that only a suggestion and if this thread turned into a WBB subject , that's alright by me :boxing:[banana][roll]
Bashing CVS in progress.
Boeheim's extension tied to Stringer and hijack of this thread helped by my defending Vivian.
Shame I just didn't ask the complainers to take it to the WBB board instead of helping hijack this thread.
My apologizes to those who were intreasted in discussing an issue without hearing those who want Stringer gone and whine about her any chance they get on every SN board.
The odds are that Stringer will be back and that discussion has been on the WBB board numerous times with the usual whining and fighting about it.
Will Hopkins succeed should be the question.
Can Boeheim bring the Orange back to glory would be another good one.
What do those that want to discuss the issue the OP raised think about those questions and other matters should be discussed where they are more applicable .
But that only a suggestion and if this thread turned into a WBB subject , that's alright by me :boxing:[banana][roll]
unfortunatley there are no more peeps on the womens board....anyhoo we can make somewhat of a comparison with Boeheim and CVS although the stakes are higher for the former's school and he has yet to hit the skids like Viv has.
life under Boeheim should be fine...have no reason to believe otherwise...I don't see any huge drop off as we've seen with CVS (who should retire)...
it's life after Boeheim that I'd be concerned about if I was a Cuse fan with the recent developments....extending him also tells me as much.
it's life after Boeheim that I'd be concerned about if I was a Cuse fan with the recent developments....extending him also tells me as much.
I come here because if you bash her on the women's board you are put down. Just look at the Syracuse women's team and Rutgers now. They are much better.
EE
Because the AD is a rookie-------trying to raise money and he knows exactly what will come out of her mouth if she's shown the door and he doesn't need it right now.
Because the AD is a rookie-------trying to raise money and he knows exactly what will come out of her mouth if she's shown the door and he doesn't need it right now.
