So I'm taking a new job and they are employing me as an independent contractor. How does this work? Do I need to create my own business? Speak to an attorney/accountant. Any help will be appreciated.
Speaking of that patent issue.. I recently saw a commercial for .. I think it was InventHelp... the voice-over said something about "we'll patent your idea"... as if that was a good thing... instead of "We'll help YOU patent YOUR idea". And they stuck that in the middle of all the stuff about "helping YOU.." do this and that. So it sounded like..Originally posted by Knight Shift:
Look over your agreement closely. If you are working in an area of technology, consider who owns the rights to patents, copyrights and other intellectual property. Also consider the non-compete clauses.
The big advantage to setting up as a company is in the manner in which income is treated. The IRS requires you to pay yourself a reasonable salary, which is open to ones interpretation. The balance of income can be treated as a dividend, which is subject to a lower tax rate.Originally posted by RU85inFla:
You don't need to set up a company unless you want the protections that a company will provide you - like getting sued. You pay all you own taxes and withholdings - Social security etc. All you need is an accountant to help you with this. You are obviously on the hook for benefits. If you do set up a company, you might be able to take advantage of some nice savings plans.
Not saying that particular company is bad, but there is a history of those places being investigated and put out of business. I'm a patent attorney. Over 20 or so years, I have had several prospective clients relate a tale along the lines of "I spent 10's of thousands of dollars with XYZ invention company, and I did not get a patent." Where these companies purportedly help you (where patent attorney generally do not) is in the marketing of your idea. But marketing before filing a solid patent application is putting the cart before the horse. Unfortunately, getting a patent can be a very expensive and time-consuming exercise.Originally posted by GoodOl'Rutgers:
Speaking of that patent issue.. I recently saw a commercial for .. I think it was InventHelp... the voice-over said something about "we'll patent your idea"... as if that was a good thing... instead of "We'll help YOU patent YOUR idea". And they stuck that in the middle of all the stuff about "helping YOU.." do this and that. So it sounded like..Originally posted by Knight Shift:
Look over your agreement closely. If you are working in an area of technology, consider who owns the rights to patents, copyrights and other intellectual property. Also consider the non-compete clauses.
We'll help you this..
We'll patent...
We'll help you that..
So.. yeah.. read the agreement..
BIG RED FLAGS.Originally posted by KeithK7624:
So I'm taking a new job and they are employing me as an independent contractor. How does this work? Do I need to create my own business? Speak to an attorney/accountant. Any help will be appreciated.
FYI, that is not necessarily illegal. In most jurisdictions, overtime can be calculated on average hours worked per week over a given amount of time, not just whether you went over 40 hours in a given work week. Most companies, of their own accord, don't work this way and will pay OT for any hours over 40, but that isn't how the law itself is written.Originally posted by RutgersROB:
Srru86 - how does one look into the IRS thing
My company has several "freelancers" and independent contractors that are being taken advantage of....one is shift pay instead of hourly and some workers can do 10 hours a day or over 40 for the week and not get paid time and a half...
The people that do get paid hourly and go over 40 hours have had their 6 or 7 hours overtime moved to their next pay period and the following weeks hours cut, clearly illegal....
And this is a 5 billion dollar company, just the guy running the department is a prick and we want him out
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Give them a different social security number and you'll never have to pay taxes! Wha!Originally posted by KeithK7624:
Just to clarify a few things... It's a foreign company that will have me working with some people on the ground here. Mostly as a 'consultant'. I'm keeping my current job so I'm not really worried about the benefits. this is essentially just a full time flex job.
Just curious as to what is the best route to get paid avoid the IRS? Just deposit the checks in to my personal account worry about the taxes at the end of the year, start an LLC, keep all those expenses seperate, etc. I probably need to speak with an accountant but I understand its a bit busy for them now. My agreement essentially starts April 21st so looking to do this sooner rather than later.
you need to pay taxes quarterly, and if you don't pay enough, you will be fined/have to pay a penalty. I did an S corporation, but that won't work for every situation. I started a business checking account under that corporation, and received income and paid taxes under that account. I would suggest you speak to an accountant ASAP.Originally posted by KeithK7624:
Just to clarify a few things... It's a foreign company that will have me working with some people on the ground here. Mostly as a 'consultant'. I'm keeping my current job so I'm not really worried about the benefits. this is essentially just a full time flex job.
Just curious as to what is the best route to get paid avoid the IRS? Just deposit the checks in to my personal account worry about the taxes at the end of the year, start an LLC, keep all those expenses seperate, etc. I probably need to speak with an accountant but I understand its a bit busy for them now. My agreement essentially starts April 21st so looking to do this sooner rather than later.
Setting up an LLC is quick and easy, definitely do an S corp or LLC and pay quarterly taxes, I didn't at one time and it really hurts come April 15th.Originally posted by KeithK7624:
Just to clarify a few things... It's a foreign company that will have me working with some people on the ground here. Mostly as a 'consultant'. I'm keeping my current job so I'm not really worried about the benefits. this is essentially just a full time flex job.
Just curious as to what is the best route to get paid avoid the IRS? Just deposit the checks in to my personal account worry about the taxes at the end of the year, start an LLC, keep all those expenses seperate, etc. I probably need to speak with an accountant but I understand its a bit busy for them now. My agreement essentially starts April 21st so looking to do this sooner rather than later.
if you follow the IRS link above you will see more on evaluating Independent Contractor vs. Employee. ICs get no overtime of course.Originally posted by RutgersROB:
Srru86 - how does one look into the IRS thing
My company has several "freelancers" and independent contractors that are being taken advantage of....one is shift pay instead of hourly and some workers can do 10 hours a day or over 40 for the week and not get paid time and a half...
The people that do get paid hourly and go over 40 hours have had their 6 or 7 hours overtime moved to their next pay period and the following weeks hours cut, clearly illegal....
And this is a 5 billion dollar company, just the guy running the department is a prick and we want him out
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1. Set Up an LLC. Easy and inexpensive in NJ, you can do it online. The LLC is to protect you. You can file as a sole proprietor, but you will have no protection. You don't need an attorney its just a simple LLC, but if complicated, and you don't understand something legal your accountant tells you, by all means, get the opinion of an Attorney.Originally posted by KeithK7624:
So I'm taking a new job and they are employing me as an independent contractor. How does this work? Do I need to create my own business? Speak to an attorney/accountant. Any help will be appreciated.
Social Security, Medicare, etc taxes are only paid on Wages. The amount on which you classify as dividends, you do not pay social security taxes etc. its treated as a short term capital gain, which is the same as ordinary income, from what i can remember, as its been a while.Originally posted by ru78:
Al
How does the dividends play out in a Corporation
How does dividends lessen your tax obligation
Been at for 20 years and not heard anything about what you are talking about
Does New Jersey recognize S Corps? I always thought LLC electing to be treated as a S Corp was a good way to go, but then I read how NY treats corporations (including S corps) and my head almost exploded. I wonder if it is similar in NJ?Originally posted by RutgersMO:
I was a 1099 for the last 8 years. You can write off expenses (such as mileage, meals, business expenses- but have to pay self employment taxes). And make sure your CPA figures out what your quarterly estimated taxes will be....and pay them.
On the other hand, last year I formed an S corp that was paid by an LLC (I'm a partner). The S corp is great. It allowed me to open a 401K and contribute to the greatest mind, producer and employee my company has ever known: ME!
In fact I'm giving myself a raise now as we speak!
MO
I think you have to pay yourself a reasonable salary and then the remaining can be distributed as dividends and taxes differently. Also, from what I have read a Solo 401(k) may be a better option than the SEP.Originally posted by ru78:
Hudson
How is the dividends in a C corporation distributed?
Would you know.
Hate leaving money in the company to have 25% taken taxes off the top.
Having a solid year and trying to defer money left over after drawing salary and funding a SEP at 25% of salary.
Good point. I had/have a $3 million dollar personal umbrella policy, and had to carry a $1 million "errors and ommissions" policy as an IT consultant. You can be sued personally while performing your job duties. i.e. running a red light on the way to a client site, and putting someone in the hospital. You and your company will most likely get sued.Originally posted by Unionst:
Buy a general liability/professional liability policy because you have exposure. Depending on what you do this should be cheap on line. Possibly just a few hundred dollars. We got my wife a policy through Hiscox.