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OT.Politically correct has taken a new low.Big Papi doll.

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Don't think Ortiz was on board. And don't see the big deal. Not a good idea to offend the person being honored or fans.

Handing out Kyle Flood bobbleheads on the purported eve of his firing was insensitive to some fans.
 
am I missing the racially insensitive part?

Me too. I'd like one of our board experts on racism in America to explain this one to us. Maybe it's racist of us who don't see the racial insensitivity of this bobble head ? lol

Here's a beauty of a statement from the President of the Red Sox:

“If we had a scenario where one fan would be offended, the right decision, where I sit, was to pull the plug on distributing all 15,000 of them. And that’s what we did, and we certainly apologize.”
 
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Previous Ortiz bobblehead:
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New one:
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Blackface minstrels:
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Whether you, I, or anyone else finds this racially insensitive is irrelevant. What matters is that the President of the Boston Red Sox did, and surmised that a significant portion of this customer base would feel likewise. Therefore, he made a decision in the best interest of his business enterprise. Surely no one on this board will begrudge him that?
 
How about the black power fist. Some might find that racial as well. That company really screwed that doll up.
 
I read that the lips were too big,unreal. Show me a bobble head doll ever made that was dead on in looks. I'd say 90% don't look any more realistic than Papi's.

There is a difference between realism and looking like a mistral. This isn't the first bobblehead of a black player or even Ortiz. They thought this one failed. They want to respect the player and their fans. Why is that a problem for you?
 
There is a difference between realism and looking like a mistral. This isn't the first bobblehead of a black player or even Ortiz. They thought this one failed. They want to respect the player and their fans. Why is that a problem for you?
Looking at the doll, would you be offended?I know you'll label me a racist for this statement,but in trying to make a point, short of the doll having a piece of fried chicken in one hand and a welfare check in the other, I see no disrespect in this doll.Now go ahead and bash me, but I believe many on here know what I'm trying to say but won't admit it.
 
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Ummm if that is the bobble head that got pulled, it is kind of obvious the fist is the problem...does anyone have to spell it out to you?
Actually, no, that's an accurate portrayal of him when he made his speech after the Boston Marathon bombing:

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It may be the lips as someone above stated, or it could be that it's just a horrible version.
 
Looking at the doll, would you be offended?I know you'll label me a racist for this statement,but in trying to make a point, short of the doll having a piece of fried chicken in one hand and a welfare check in the other, I see no disrespect in this doll.Now go ahead and bash me, but I believe many on here know what I'm trying to say but won't admit it.

I think it looks like a minstrel. Historically that is equivalent to the option you described. I wouldn't approve it and if the product I approved came back looking like that I would send it back.

I don't think you are racist. I think you are insensitive and that you probably think that being sensitive or showing empathy makes you less of a man or something.
 
Actually, no, that's an accurate portrayal of him when he made his speech after the Boston Marathon bombing:

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It may be the lips as someone above stated, or it could be that it's just a horrible version.
I was assuming it was him cheering a HR or Win. Which at the moment of it would be fine. Same with his speech.
But on a statue, there would be many not knowing the reference and thus offended.
Agree about the lips too
 
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Why did the Red Sox have to make it about race? Couldn't they just have said the dolls were screwed up and left it at that?

Exactly. Not sure if they had to make a statement that puts some people in a bad light (especially the doll-makers). In a sense, this becomes a "look at me" scenario, instead of a "whoops, my bad".

I do see the 'blackface' issue and it's valid, but besides the doll-maker, someone on the Boston staff failed in quality control. Heck, that pic shouldn't have made it past Big Papi's review, but then maybe someone did a double-take after it got online. Quite possible someone got offended by the pic on the tweet and made a bit of a stink about it.
 
I was assuming it was him cheering a HR or Win. Which at the moment of it would be fine. Same with his speech.
But on a statue, there would be many not knowing the reference and thus offended.
Agree about the lips too
Well, the bobblehead does have him holding a microphone.

Of course, if they wanted to be more accurate, they could have had a word bubble by his head with multiple f-bombs in it!
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Previous Ortiz bobblehead:
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New one:
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Blackface minstrels:
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This should put this issue to rest.
 
I was assuming it was him cheering a HR or Win. Which at the moment of it would be fine. Same with his speech.
But on a statue, there would be many not knowing the reference and thus offended.
Agree about the lips too
I'm guessing most members of Red Sox Nation would get the reference considering it was mostly made for them and there is a mic in his hand. And the pic in the link is kind of iconic for many New Englanders and Bostonians.

But will agree the thing looks terrible.
 
The doll is ugly and I can see why it might be offensive. What exec with the Sox approved this thing before they made 15000? And I don't even recognize or like Ortiz.
 
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