Gross, if true.
Good riddance Greg, and thanks for nothing.
Good riddance Greg, and thanks for nothing.
OT: Schiano Knew Too
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I always thought he had to know something about it.
Exactly. Even if he never witnessed anything (and now it appears he did) there's simply no way he could have coached there for 5 years and heard no whispers about any of it. Just no way.
Yup. I can't help but think back on all the glowing praise Schiano had for Joe Pa over the years. F you Schiano.
Well, in reading the deposition, it seems Schiano did what was expected of him and told his boss, presumably Bradley at the time. Nothing to see here.
Oh wait, sorry -- too many PSUers have used that logic over the years, it must have brainwashed me. I'm back now -- Schiano is a POS too it seems.
Oh wait, sorry -- too many PSUers have used that logic over the years, it must have brainwashed me. I'm back now -- Schiano is a POS too it seems.
I'd like to hear Schiano comment on this. But it sure looks like he let a predator rape children so as not to upset his career.
If so he's a disgusting coward (and a below average football coach)
If so he's a disgusting coward (and a below average football coach)
I feel that way, but at same time, it's not like ANYONE else who reported it had their reports hit the light of day. Best to get out of there and report it to FBI.
It wouldn't surprise me if it is eventually learned that a large number of people knew, after all, it apparently went on at some level for many years. But , no one, and I mean absolutely no one, was going to make a move against the will of Paterno. Joe PA was God. Remember, they didn't have the SL and NL.com looking over their shoulder for any dirt to throw on their graves. What Joe PA wanted was an unblemished PSU football program and no one was going to disturb that reality and survive with a career in football still alive. It is a shame if true.
Questions
1. Could someone confirm that the testimony is coming from McQueary? I don't believe that's a deposition of Schiano.
2. Assuming my assumption is correct, is there another section of the deposition not included in the tweet where Schiano is linked? I don't see a reference to Schiano in the tweeted page.
That's not to say he never heard whispers. But I want to establish exactly what the facts are here.
1. Could someone confirm that the testimony is coming from McQueary? I don't believe that's a deposition of Schiano.
2. Assuming my assumption is correct, is there another section of the deposition not included in the tweet where Schiano is linked? I don't see a reference to Schiano in the tweeted page.
That's not to say he never heard whispers. But I want to establish exactly what the facts are here.
It's McQueary's hearsay testimony on what he heard from Coach Bradley allegedly heard something from Schiano:
McQueary: "He (Bradley) said another assistant coach had come to him in the early 90's about a very similar situation to mine, . . . "
McQueary: "Greg had come into his (Bradley's) office white as a ghost and said he just saw Jerry doing something to a boy in the shower. And that's it. That's all he ever told me."
McQueary: "He (Bradley) said another assistant coach had come to him in the early 90's about a very similar situation to mine, . . . "
McQueary: "Greg had come into his (Bradley's) office white as a ghost and said he just saw Jerry doing something to a boy in the shower. And that's it. That's all he ever told me."
And the longer this was allowed to go one with people knowing and not reporting it to the police, the more motivation the powers that be at Penn State have to keep it hidden (for fear that their prior negligence be discovered) and the more freedom Sandusky feels to keep doing what he was doing since it was being 'condoned' at the Lasch building. A cycle of depravity that aligned the interests of Paterno/Penn State and Sandusky.
I think it's safe to say Schiano is now in the doghouse.
Are you guys going to remove all traces of Schiano from campus and the history books...shameful era?
I guess we'll have to rename a few buildings, take down his statue, stop naming ice cream flavors after him, change street signs, etc. I mean, his name & image are all over campus, and Rutgers is synonymous with the man...
We don't have to really. We didn't build a statue for him. We didn't paint a mural with a halo over his head. He was a football coach that moved on, and we moved on from him. That's how this stuff is supposed to work.
So essentially, almost everyone at PSU knew what was going on and did nothing. Right?
Pretty much.
And they wonder why everybody has awarded them cult status.
I called this years ago because I paid attention to what Vicky Triponey was saying. She blew up the whole Paterno cult when she left PSU. The Ped apologists insisted that she was just a disgruntled employee. Turns out that Paterno was a monster, after all.
Don't care. If you have a shred of humanity in you, you go directly to the police, you go to the media, you beat that rapist piece of shit to within an inch of his life if necessary. Nothing excuses not ending the raping.
We non-cult members logically know that there is No Way, and I repeat No Way that abuse of this magnitude could have gone on for decades without numerous staff & management knowing (or at the very least, hearing gossip/rumors).
This is why you can't have a reasonable discussion about this topic with most PSU fans. They can't accept the fundamental premise that people knew.
This is why you can't have a reasonable discussion about this topic with most PSU fans. They can't accept the fundamental premise that people knew.
I'm all for it.
I'll never discuss the Schiano era at Rutgers without pointing out Schiano covered for a rapist.
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No, I doubt that "everyone" who went through those doors knew but it is likely that, since it went on for so many years, that many knew, suspected, or heard rumors, that at some level something was happening and shamefully did nothing or tried to do something and were put down.
HOW HARD IS IT TO SLIP AN ANONYMOUS LETTER UNDER A POLICE STATION'S DOOR????????????????????
And if nothing comes of that
HOW HARD IS IT TO SLIP AN ANONYMOUS LETTER IN THE MAIL TO THE FBI???????????????????????????????????????
And if nothing comes of that
HOW HARD IS IT TO SLIP AN ANONYMOUS LETTER IN THE MAIL TO THE FBI???????????????????????????????????????
And one would have to be sure that McQueary had his facts straight and/or was not lying in his testimony. Far-fetched, but you have a witness testifying about what he remembers Coach Bradley remembered hearing what Coach Schiano allegedly told him. Not cutting Gary an slack here, but direct testimony from Bradley or Gary himself would be more informative. But that sounds a lot like the apologists' defenses of Paterno. The problem is that there are so many stories of Paterno being told or knowing about what happened that it is either a conspiracy against Paterno or a strange coincidence.
Wow, imagine how bad it would be for RU, after all the crap that has gone on for the last few years, if Schiano had be named the head coach. RU really dodged a bullet here. Then again maybe some people heard rumblings about what GS knew and he was never in consideration.
I am happy he is no longer here and we already got rid of his stuff.
correct way to look at this:
correct way to look at this:
gs (no more caps for this dirtbag) is as culpable as ALL these psu scum.
F* these psu men. Hopefully the religious of them DO meet their maker - may they all rot in hell with paterno.
That isn't a quote from Bradley. It's someone saying they heard it from Bradley. That's a big difference. Schiano will have to address this at some point though.
I do feel there is a high chance that every person who worked in the program knew something was up. How could you not?
You'd have to be one of those GWB pulled the wool over the whole worlds eyes Iraq thing to think someone like Sandusky could get away with this for all those years with few people knowing. Impossible.
Hindsight is 20/20. Baylor is new. This happened in the 1970s/80/90s. Back then on planet earth, you start with local law enforcement. Now, perhaps, things are done differently, genius.
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