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OT: Schiano Knew Too

I guess we'll have to rename a few buildings, take down his statue, stop naming ice cream flavors after him, change street signs, etc. I mean, his name & image are all over campus, and Rutgers is synonymous with the man...
I've already poured all my Gregory Gary Schiano beer out and written a letter to Barchi demanding his library be closed.
 
That isn't a quote from Bradley. It's someone saying they heard it from Bradley. That's a big difference. Schiano will have to address this at some point though.

I do feel there is a high chance that every person who worked in the program knew something was up. How could you not?

You'd have to be one of those GWB pulled the wool over the whole worlds eyes Iraq thing to think someone like Sandusky could get away with this for all those years with few people knowing. Impossible.
Pretty sure it all checks out. McQueary talks to Bradley about one of the most traumatic incidents of his life, Bradley says Schiano knew. I have a hard time thinking Bradley had a memory lapse and that it was someone other than Schiano that witnessed something...and I doubt McQueary forgot who Bradely mentioned.

It all adds up.
 
Hindsight is 20/20. Baylor is new. This happened in the 1970s/80/90s. Back then on planet earth, you start with local law enforcement. Now, perhaps, things are done differently, genius.
Read my quote again son. After the good ol boys do nothing, then you run it up. Since the beginning of time, by five years old you learn there are parties that will protect the line at all cost.
 
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So...on that snippet of indirect information...we should condemn that guy who built our football program?

I'm not defending it, really. I just think that's some pretty harsh judgment. (And I do have compassion for Schiano and his family.)
 
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We don't have to really. We didn't build a statue for him. We didn't paint a mural with a halo over his head. He was a football coach that moved on, and we moved on from him. That's how this stuff is supposed to work.
Well said.
 
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Would love to ask Schiano two questions:

Did you witness Sandusky acting inappropriately with a young boy?

What did you do with that information?
 
Schiano doesn't need to be removed from our history books, for sure. But he won't be idolized at RU to any extent ever again unless he is 100% cleared of this allegation.

He would get points if he manned up and admitted he knew and asked forgiveness for not doing more.
 
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Greg needs to address this. He was a Grad assistant at the time, I think, and I assume that everyone there heard whispers, but whispers are just that. Actually witnessing something inappropriate in another thing. What did he witness, if anything?

I suppose that if Bradley felt the need to tell McQueary that story when he reported what he saw (meaning that that story was not common knowledge), maybe the circle who knew about this was very small.
 
Read my quote again son. After the good ol boys do nothing, then you run it up. Since the beginning of time, by five years old you learn there are parties that will protect the line at all cost.
Maybe 5 year old kids slip anonymous letters under police station/FBI doors. Did not get what you were getting at. Real men call or go to the police immediately to file a report and take action. More importantly, real men interview and stop a child from being raped if that indeed happened.
 
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So...on that snippet of indirect information...we should condemn that guy who built our football program?

I'm not defending it, really. I just think that's some pretty harsh judgment. (And I do have compassion for Schiano and his family.)

Whether the guy built our football program or not is completely irrelevant here.
 
Schiano will eventually get questioned on this by a reporter. And he'll have to answer. And, "no comment" would probably be a bad idea. In fact, he'd be better off addressing it affirmatively before he's asked. Of course, if what McQueary said is true and Schiano did in fact see something that turned him white and only informed his boss football coach, that's bad and I'm not sure how he explains that away.

In any event, he'll have an opportunity to address it, and he will or won't take that opportunity. Let's see.
 
Contemptible, if true.

You can argue that if Schiano saw something one time and/or knew it's not as bad as Paterno's decades of enabling. But, really, you can't be a little bit pregnant. If true, Schiano has to be thrown on the Penn State shitpile of history with the rest of them.
 
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Maybe 5 year old kids slip anonymous letters under police station/FBI doors. Did not get what you were getting at. Real men call or go to the police immediately to file a report and take action. More importantly, real men interview and stop a child from being raped if that indeed happened.
Throughout history we have millions of example- NO THEY DON'T. They protect their family and their job.

We now have two current examples where men looked the other way (PSU & Baylor). Is Tenn having issues of intimidation as well?

And your first line here is completely immature. You have no idea what I am trying to get across in my first post which is really sad.
 
We don't have to really. We didn't build a statue for him. We didn't paint a mural with a halo over his head. He was a football coach that moved on, and we moved on from him. That's how this stuff is supposed to work.

Yeah, but what if he had taken Rutgers to "the next level" ? What if he had remained head coach here as long as JoePa had at Pedd St. and had a comparable level of success ? I'm not so sure everyone here would be calling for his statue to be taken down.
 
Maybe 5 year old kids slip anonymous letters under police station/FBI doors. Did not get what you were getting at. Real men call or go to the police immediately to file a report and take action. More importantly, real men interview and stop a child from being raped if that indeed happened.

For Schiano, as a lowly graduate assistant, the issue of professional backlash and the financial repercussions of being a whistleblower were probably legitimate concerns. So the idea of an anonymous tip would actually be a safe avenue to at least do something. Having said that, we don't know for sure this didn't happen. The coverup went so high up the chain, it wouldn't surprise me if multiple anonymous reports were ignored. But I agree with the sentiment that at some point, if no action was being taken, someone needed to step up and shout it from the rooftops, careers be damned, so save those kids. But sadly, neither Greg nor anyone else at that place had the courage to do so.
 
For Schiano, as a lowly graduate assistant, the issue of professional backlash and the financial repercussions of being a whistleblower were probably legitimate concerns. So the idea of an anonymous tip would actually be a safe avenue to at least do something. Having said that, we don't know for sure this didn't happen. The coverup went so high up the chain, it wouldn't surprise me if multiple anonymous reports were ignored. But I agree with the sentiment that at some point, if no action was being taken, someone needed to step up and shout it from the rooftops, careers be damned, so save those kids. But sadly, neither Greg nor anyone else at that place had the courage to do so.
Sorry. Not legitimate in light of child rape. Disagree.
 
Greg needs to address this. He was a Grad assistant at the time, I think, and I assume that everyone there heard whispers, but whispers are just that. Actually witnessing something inappropriate in another thing. What did he witness, if anything?

I suppose that if Bradley felt the need to tell McQueary that story when he reported what he saw (meaning that that story was not common knowledge), maybe the circle who knew about this was very small.

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
In order to get this matter settled Greg Schiano must address the issue of his knowing or not.
As it stands now the accusation of guilt will stick to him and it should unless he speaks out on exactly what he knew while he was at Penn St and if he found out anything after he left.
 
Even if he knew, the difference is that RU fans would crucify him, not demand a statue be erected. And that's if he was still here...not our problem.
Not buying it for a second. If Greg was still here and let's say he won us a national championship the reaction on this board would be totally different. There would be posters coming out of the woodwork to defend him and discredit the alleged victim's statements. Let's keep it real.
 
For Schiano, as a lowly graduate assistant, the issue of professional backlash and the financial repercussions of being a whistleblower were probably legitimate concerns. So the idea of an anonymous tip would actually be a safe avenue to at least do something. Having said that, we don't know for sure this didn't happen. The coverup went so high up the chain, it wouldn't surprise me if multiple anonymous reports were ignored. But I agree with the sentiment that at some point, if no action was being taken, someone needed to step up and shout it from the rooftops, careers be damned, so save those kids. But sadly, neither Greg nor anyone else at that place had the courage to do so.

He was a GA in 1990. From '91 through '95 he was DB coach.
 
Not buying it for a second. If Greg was still here and let's say he won us a national championship the reaction on this board would be totally different. There would be posters coming out of the woodwork to defend him and discredit the alleged victim's statements. Let's keep it real.

Schiano deserves a chance to defend himself. If it turns out that he did know and did nothing, I doubt anyone here would defend him. Football is not that big a deal here, as it should be.
 
He needs to make a statment ASAP. He also needs Bradley to come out and say it's not true. If he doesn't he's as bad as Paterno and anyone who stands up for him is as bad as PSU cult.
 
And if my Aunt had balls she'd be my Uncle.

What you're doing is not keeping it real, it's keeping it hypothetical.
 
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SEE BAYLOR DUDE

(God what planet do you live on?)
See. Baylor See Vandy when FRANKLIN coached there and alerted players to lawyer up and that the police were comimg..then CALLED the VICTIM.
bad for Schiano..if true ,and its hard to see why it wouldnt be true,they all looked the other way at State Penn.
 
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Not buying it for a second. If Greg was still here and let's say he won us a national championship the reaction on this board would be totally different. There would be posters coming out of the woodwork to defend him and discredit the alleged victim's statements. Let's keep it real.
I believe you're right about that.
My first reaction after reading the OP was disbelief and thinking it was posted to smear Schiano's reputation by a Greg hater.
Then started thinking about how the cult refuses to consider what they don't like and decided not to be that way.
I'm not totally convinced Schiano knew, but feel there's a good possibility that he did and he needs to address this or be found guilty in the court of public opinion.
Right now he looks guilty to me, but wait till I see what he does about being accused of knowing and decide after I hear what he has to say about being accused of knowing , while he was at PSU, Sandusky was molesting children and did nothing to stop that disgusting pervert.
 
He needs to make a statment ASAP. He also needs Bradley to come out and say it's not true. If he doesn't he's as bad as Paterno and anyone who stands up for him is as bad as PSU cult.
Unless of course it is true...which I would bet it is.
 
lot of tOSU fans calling for his head, others want to hear a statement from him first. I can promise you he is in hot water right now and needs to comment soon.
 
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And if my Aunt had balls she'd be my Uncle.

What you're doing is not keeping it real, it's keeping it hypothetical.
What I am doing is not pretending to be holier than thou. I have no doubt that the tone of the response would be vastly different if these revelations threatened our football season and our current recruiting class, let alone if Greg had led us to great success in the last few years. We can afford to be righteous, he is not our problem.
 
What I am doing is not pretending to be holier than thou. I have no doubt that the tone of the response would be vastly different if these revelations threatened our football season and our current recruiting class, let alone if Greg had led us to great success in the last few years. We can afford to be righteous, he is not our problem.
There is probably some truth to this, but it is 100% fair to say that the Rutgers fan base as a whole is not as invested in football as they are at Penn State...so I think the response would be more balanced. While the 'Joe-Bots' may be a minority of Penn State fans, they are numerous enough to be the loudest voices and numerous enough to get people voted onto the Board of Trustees (see Lubrano) with the explicit mission of restoring Paterno's legacy.
 
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It's a false premise because Gary couldn't even win the Big East in 11 tries let alone the NC. :joy:
 
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lot of tOSU fans calling for his head, others want to hear a statement from him first. I can promise you he is in hot water right now and needs to comment soon.

Interesting development, Akron Buck. -I'm certain that both Buckeye and Scarlet nations will be very curious to see how he handles this. (But I agree, he'd better handle it somehow...and quickly).
 
There is probably some truth to this, but it is 100% fair to say that the Rutgers fan base as a whole is not as invested in football as they are at Penn State...so I think the response would be more balanced. While the 'Joe-Bots' may be a minority of Penn State fans, they are numerous enough to be the loudest voices and numerous enough to get people voted onto the Board of Trustees (see Lubrano) with the explicit mission of restoring Paterno's legacy.
Oh, I agree it would not be anything like the denial at Penn State. But the tone would be different and people would be more likely to give Greg the benefit of the doubt.
 
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