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OT: Three Virginia Football Players Murdered By Former Player

Holy crap. Just touched base with Tyler, it's crazy down there. He's staying away from UVA for now.
 
Bus retuning from a field trip on a Sunday night? Football players on it (not the shooter) who had played a game the day before. Tragic no matter what the details are, but curious.
 
Bus retuning from a field trip on a Sunday night? Football players on it (not the shooter) who had played a game the day before. Tragic no matter what the details are, but curious.
It was to a play for a class. I am guessing they probably went to a play in Richmond or DC for the day.
 
UVA canceled their basketball game tonight against Northern Iowa. I would imagine they cancel their football game against Coastal Carolina this weekend.
 
Bus retuning from a field trip on a Sunday night? Football players on it (not the shooter) who had played a game the day before. Tragic no matter what the details are, but curious.
God forbid on the off chance that these student athletes were doing actual college student things with the university they attend.
 
God forbid on the off chance that these student athletes were doing actual college student things with the university they attend.

How many Sunday class sessions did you take in college? I said it was terrible.
 
Tragic

Pitt played UVA Saturday.

Devin Chandler was a WR for UVA and transferred from the University of Wisconsin.
 
This is a prime example of the mental , drug infected world you live in. I pray for the victims and their families. I also pray for the perpetrator in this ghastly killing.This is still not being addressed .Rampant hard core drugs being allowed to proliferate in this country through our borders to our children and that needs to be stopped.
So tell me how are you going to magically stop drugs? You must not be paying close attention because many of the drugs rampant in this country were manufactured in this country or brought into this country legally. Purdue Pharmaceutical ring a bell? Ever hear of meth? Let me guess you think the Mexico wall will magically stop them? I got news for you as long as humans are looking for an escape there will be ways for people to get drugs.
 
Tragic. Wonder what kind of problems this kid had in his last. RIP to the victims, and hope the two kids in the hospital pull through.
 
Yes. Just as bad are those bringing politics into this thread.
I agree that politics and finger pointing are not what's called for in a thread like this (or ever, IMO, since it's such a waste of time).

However, rotten as those things are, they're just a minor irritant compared to the fact that these innocent kids lost their lives. My heart goes out to their parents and families. It's an awful thing.
 
Zero.

Doesn’t matter how many I took.
They did and they’re dead.

Oh, and IN.
It's common to have to attend a cultural or arts event to fulfill a course requirement. I had a Humanities core class and needed to attend a University music, dance or theater performance, which was a small percentage of my grade.
 
Horrible. I hope we learn more about this…

“The police chief also revealed there had been a prior criminal incident involving a concealed weapon violation that occurred outside of the city of Charlottesville” in February last year”.

there isn’t a simple answer to these problems but mandatory federal time for anyone breaking gun laws or committing a crime with a gun would be an easy start.
 
It's common to have to attend a cultural or arts event to fulfill a course requirement. I had a Humanities core class and needed to attend a University music, dance or theater performance, which was a small percentage of my grade.
Back in the day, we had a geology class field trip on a Saturday- not a Sunday of course, but still not regular class time
 
I wonder if this had anything to do with the killings.
>Jones was involved in a hazing investigation ( don't know when article didn't say) on campus that was closed because witnesses would not cooperate<
Article also had this in it:
>Jones had come to campus authorities’ attention in September, when authorities found out Jones “had made a comment about possessing a gun” to someone “unaffiliated with the university,” Longo said at Monday’s news conference. But that person never actually saw the gun in question, he said.
“Through the course of the threat assessment team’s investigation, we learned of a prior criminal incident involving a concealed weapon violation that occurred outside the city of Charlotteville in February of 2021,” Longo said, adding the suspect was required to report that incident to the university but never did. The school’s judicial council took over the case, and the results are pending. <

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/13/us/university-of-virginia-shooting

Ill wait until more info is available before arguing over political implications, drug issues , mental health , thoughts and prayers or if this tragedy could have been avoided somehow .
 
I wonder if this had anything to do with the killings.
>Jones was involved in a hazing investigation ( don't know when article didn't say) on campus that was closed because witnesses would not cooperate<
Article also had this in it:
>Jones had come to campus authorities’ attention in September, when authorities found out Jones “had made a comment about possessing a gun” to someone “unaffiliated with the university,” Longo said at Monday’s news conference. But that person never actually saw the gun in question, he said.
“Through the course of the threat assessment team’s investigation, we learned of a prior criminal incident involving a concealed weapon violation that occurred outside the city of Charlotteville in February of 2021,” Longo said, adding the suspect was required to report that incident to the university but never did. The school’s judicial council took over the case, and the results are pending. <

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/13/us/university-of-virginia-shooting

Ill wait until more info is available before arguing over political implications, drug issues , mental health , thoughts and prayers or if this tragedy could have been avoided somehow .
This is a young guy who evidently has a long term mental disorder which is documented prior to this killing of 3 other former teammates.The most telling thing is he mentions his father running out with no reasons when he was 5. He claimed it always in simple terms caused him to wonder why? That certainly could have impacted him in his life. No excuse to kill someone needless to say he kills 3 . This wasn’t political … mental disturbance yup… drugs and alcohol are always in our current society very possible. Don’t think he used an automatic high powered assault weapon. Probably he purchased the gun legally.
 
I have no problem with harsh penalties for crimes involving firearms. However, I'm not a fan of fixed mandatory sentencing.

It's impossible for legislators to envision all possible scenarios and contexts for lots of different types of crimes. So I prefer a judge have some leeway to adjudicate stuff in almost every instance, based on specific circumstances.
In this circumstance it would appear he has taken 3 young lives and members of families who deserved a better outcome in life. The failure lies within the medical, Judicial and educational systems . Do we assume even after he told of his early life and his father leaving did anyone this man has some possible psychological needs conjecture . This is the problem and to make lite of it is shameful. The drugs, the homelessness , the simple dissolution of the nuclear family environment. People claiming this is not a big thing are someday going to be confronted with much worse on our streets and schools.
 
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Back in the day, we had a geology class field trip on a Saturday- not a Sunday of course, but still not regular class time
That brings back memories. HS biology we had this huge leaf project and were out all over the place trying to get all the weird leaf samples on the project list. That was definitely not during class time!
 
You are ranting like a lunatic and I am totally wacked? LOL.

You should start another War on Drugs. The last one worked so well.
You joke about something that is really a serious problem for decades. I hope in your lifetime RUDead you never have to bury a loved one because of drug OD. I guarantee you’ll rant…
 
Horrible. I hope we learn more about this…

“The police chief also revealed there had been a prior criminal incident involving a concealed weapon violation that occurred outside of the city of Charlottesville” in February last year”.

there isn’t a simple answer to these problems but mandatory federal time for anyone breaking gun laws or committing a crime with a gun would be an easy start.

Yeah but most of those are pled out - also the Feds never prosecute folks lying to get past background checks. Almost like they want the issue to continue.
 
UVA President James Ryan is from my hometown of Midland Park NJ. Knew he and his sister Claire very well. Jimmy was captain of the debate team. Feel horrible for the victims, their families and everyone and the school that their lives have changed.
 
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