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After 43 years in business, the owners are apparently retiring with their last day on 7/31 - unfortunate that they're not being bought by someone to continue the store. Probably hard to sustain such a business with so much of music now being digital. Been going to the Fords location for at least 35 years and bought many, many albums and CDs there, as well as seeing numerous bands play there, including the Old 97s, Cloud Nothings, Titus Andronicus and Fountains of Wayne (4 of my favorite bands). Will have to pay a visit shortly - they'll be missed.

https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/vintage-vinyl-the-end-of-an-era-in-nj.1093781/
 
Hardly any record stores left booo. I don’t think kids have any idea what they are missing spending hours in a store, just looking around at all the album covers, meeting people interested in all kinds of music, talking about concerts they went to or upcoming shows. Some sold concert tickets in the shop too. I think Princeton Record Exchange and Jacks are still around. I don’t think there are any Compact Disc World locations left. —Boooo
 
After 43 years in business, the owners are apparently retiring with their last day on 7/31 - unfortunate that they're not being bought by someone to continue the store. Probably hard to sustain such a business with so much of music now being digital. Been going to the Fords location for at least 35 years and bought many, many albums and CDs there, as well as seeing numerous bands play there, including the Old 97s, Cloud Nothings, Titus Andronicus and Fountains of Wayne (4 of my favorite bands). Will have to pay a visit shortly - they'll be missed.

https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/vintage-vinyl-the-end-of-an-era-in-nj.1093781/
Wow... sounds cliche but it's the end of an era. That place was an indie music lover's dream. We used to go there and spend an hour just flipping through CDs. Changing world and changing business, the writing has been on the wall for a while.

Does Curmudgeon still exist (right near Tastee Subs)?
 
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Bummer. Fond memories of stopping there after school during my last few weeks of high school on our way to the grease trucks.
 
Can't recall how many concert tickets I bought from there also, will have to visit one last time myself
 
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Some people, myself included, think vinyl sounds better that compressed digital. I think it is making a comeback of sorts, though streaming is most popular. Here is a good article on this. Sad to see Vintage Vinyl go.
 
I'm surprised to hear it still exists. So many of those shops are long gone.

I seem to remember getting Sponge tix there for a show at the Tradewinds.
 
Good riddance.

Everyone is always.. so sad to see them go.. with stories like this.

Bah! Humbug!

Make it 6/31.. or better yet a day in June that actually exists... 6/30.

(I once was in dire need and asked to use their bathroom.. they said no. Now thirty-some years later.. F'em)
 
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I was just thinking of the Vintage Vinyl the other day (I must've read something here on the board that reminded me). I started going to Vintage Vinyl back in the mid-/late-80s. I cannot possibly count the number of hours I spent in that store, or the dollars I spent (although, frankly, sometimes you could spend hours and buy nothing). It was a great place, and a great community. It will definitely be missed.
 
Wow... sounds cliche but it's the end of an era. That place was an indie music lover's dream. We used to go there and spend an hour just flipping through CDs. Changing world and changing business, the writing has been on the wall for a while.

Does Curmudgeon still exist (right near Tastee Subs)?

Curmudgeon was great. I hope it's still there. After college, me an a bunch of friends rented a house on Prospect Ave, the street behind the store. The best part was Tastee Subs was on that corner along with the Cork & Bottle. Pretty much all you would ever need within walking distance. I should never have left.
 
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Growing up we use to go to Vogel’s in Elizabeth, Broad Street


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Growing up we use to go to Vogel’s in Elizabeth, Broad Street


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I always went to Vogel's and then Alwicks (across the street) when it closed. Alwicks used to be the ticketmaster. Spent many nights on that line.
 
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I'm surprised to hear it still exists. So many of those shops are long gone.

I seem to remember getting Sponge tix there for a show at the Tradewinds.
Was that the show where Everclear opened up for them (right before Everclear's first album took off) in 1995, iirc? If so, I was at that Tradewinds show also - was a fantastic show.
 
Curmudgeon was great. I hope it's still there. After college, me an a bunch of friends rented a house on Prospect Ave, the street behind the store. The best part was Tastee Subs was on that corner along with the Cork & Bottle. Pretty much all you would ever need within walking distance. I should never have left.
Curmudgeon closed years ago, sadly - had Tastee Subs for dinner tonight, lol...
 
Good riddance.

Everyone is always.. so sad to see them go.. with stories like this.

Bah! Humbug!

Make it 6/31.. or better yet a day 98in June that actually exists... 6/30.

(I once was in dire need and asked to use their bathroom.. they said no. Now thirty-some years later.. F'em)
Fantastic addition to the thread - you must be proud.
 
Curmudgeon closed years ago, sadly - had Tastee Subs for dinner tonight, lol...

Is The Cork & Bottle still there? It looks like a liquor store, but there's a tiny bar in the back. You could enter the bar from the back door. Nobody would ever know you were there. It was the perfect set up.
 
Sad to hear. The powers that be have used technology to indocranate people to give up physical copies, ie privacy, for what some call convenience. So what has happened since Napster? The music business is a shell of it's former self. People don't listen to or buy music the way they used too. Artists, are putting out less product, because they don't make the money. Artists used to make most of their money from album sales. Yes for my generation CD's. Now it is concerts, (pre-pandemic) or bust.
Lastly, it used to be that a person could not be tracked after purchase. No one knew if it was for you or a 🎁. No one knew how often you listened. Now everything is tracked, and music is not as important to the Z's and other younger people, because they can get it for free, or not much at all. When you had limited funds and decided what to buy, it meant more. A person had skin in the game. Which led it to be more important to a person imo.
 
Man this sucks I've been putting off taking a trip there for years, gonna finally go this weekend.

We hit up Princeton Record Exchange, if that place ever goes under I'm gonna croak. I have a genuine fear COVID is going to kill off the (good) music industry once and for all.
 
Sad to hear. The powers that be have used technology to indocranate people to give up physical copies, ie privacy, for what some call convenience. So what has happened since Napster? The music business is a shell of it's former self. People don't listen to or buy music the way they used too. Artists, are putting out less product, because they don't make the money. Artists used to make most of their money from album sales. Yes for my generation CD's. Now it is concerts, (pre-pandemic) or bust.
Lastly, it used to be that a person could not be tracked after purchase. No one knew if it was for you or a 🎁. No one knew how often you listened. Now everything is tracked, and music is not as important to the Z's and other younger people, because they can get it for free, or not much at all. When you had limited funds and decided what to buy, it meant more. A person had skin in the game. Which led it to be more important to a person imo.
I grew up just in time to experience this transition and I really think we are better off with the way things are now and it's not even close. With the internet, it is infinitely easier to find new music and give it a listen before deciding if you want to spend any money on it, and it's that much easier for bands to reach fans because they can record a song and post it on their social media instead of having to be one of the select few to get on the radio or rely on magazines, TV, word of mouth, etc. I discover a few new bands every month with no effort. In high school it was much less for the reasons I stated. There is no shortage of new music out there, artists are not creating less than they used to.

Okay Fauci fan.. whatever you say.

THEY are choosing to close. I had nothing to do with it.

You really do have a problem with people thinking differently than you do. What's that about?
Please don't ruin this thread with this garbage.
 
I wish Albert Music Hall would open other nights other than Saturdays for various forms of music. 52 Saturday nights a year you get to hear live music and that’s it for concert use. Would bring in more money to the non-profit group that runs it and they could offer more college scholarships. Also would like to see movie theaters use their auditoriums for live music. Might be a situation where you show up ready to walk out and play, but for a little rent they would still make more money than showing some iffy movie in front of 14 people on a Thursday night.
 
I grew up just in time to experience this transition and I really think we are better off with the way things are now and it's not even close. With the internet, it is infinitely easier to find new music and give it a listen before deciding if you want to spend any money on it, and it's that much easier for bands to reach fans because they can record a song and post it on their social media instead of having to be one of the select few to get on the radio or rely on magazines, TV, word of mouth, etc. I discover a few new bands every month with no effort. In high school it was much less for the reasons I stated. There is no shortage of new music out there, artists are not creating less than they used to.


Please don't ruin this thread with this garbage.
I agree, but it seems like people used to care much more about music in the 2000s and prior. Part of me thinks it's a scarcity thing where it had more appeal when it wasn't completely available like it is now. I'm 30 and outside of a core group of friends I go to shows with the majority of people in my generation don't have a favorite band/artist.
 
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I agree, but it seems like people used to care much more about music in the 2000s and prior. Part of me thinks it's a scarcity thing where it had more appeal when it wasn't completely available like it is now. I'm 30 and outside of a core group of friends I go to shows with the majority of people in my generation don't have a favorite band/artist.
Hmm could just be anecdotal evidence for either one of us but I'm only a few years older than you and I too have a group of friends I go to shows with, but I also see tons of facebook friends posting about traveling to festivals etc.
 
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I grew up just in time to experience this transition and I really think we are better off with the way things are now and it's not even close. With the internet, it is infinitely easier to find new music and give it a listen before deciding if you want to spend any money on it, and it's that much easier for bands to reach fans because they can record a song and post it on their social media instead of having to be one of the select few to get on the radio or rely on magazines, TV, word of mouth, etc. I discover a few new bands every month with no effort. In high school it was much less for the reasons I stated. There is no shortage of new music out there, artists are not creating less than they used to.


Please don't ruin this thread with this garbage.
That is your opinion. I agree with parts. I also am old enough to have lived the transition. I think it comes down strictly to how you look at things. It is easier for anyone to use the computer to reach perfect pitch, and say, You Tube to put music out there. However the drawbacks as I see them, are in no particular order, 1. Much of this is not good. 2. The Artists has not worked on there craft, putting on a show. 3. Simply because of financial difficulties in the new system, many albums don't get made, because of the lack of profit.
My biggest problem, comes from the big-brother tracking. The powers that be, not only know what you buy, but also for who. As well as how much you listen to it, and so forth. I know it will not change, but even with the pluses of checking out music before you buy it, if you can find it, I prefer the way it was before personally. It is like Rob Zombie has theorized, how much longer will artists put out albums? Not to mention the technology has led to star search like music, and computer noises on steroids. I like real drumming not drum machines and alike.
 
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One last quick point. I think people are missing, and/or forgetting how relaxing browsing in a music store, I could add movies/tv DVDs, was. For me, I always found it incredible for relaxation. Looking through the stacks, you would remember good stuff you were not thinking of. It was also a nice place to meet people.
 
Okay Fauci fan.. whatever you say.

THEY are choosing to close. I had nothing to do with it.

You really do have a problem with people thinking differently than you do. What's that about?
What the hell does Fauci have to do with this thread? A business many people have loved for decades closes and for some reason you seem to take pleasure in that. This isn't about someone "thinking differently," from me, this is about you behaving like a complete tool.
 
That is your opinion. I agree with parts. I also am old enough to have lived the transition. I think it comes down strictly to how you look at things. It is easier for anyone to use the computer to reach perfect pitch, and say, You Tube to put music out there. However the drawbacks as I see them, are in no particular order, 1. Much of this is not good. 2. The Artists has not worked on there craft, putting on a show. 3. Simply because of financial difficulties in the new system, many albums don't get made, because of the lack of profit.
My biggest problem, comes from the big-brother tracking. The powers that be, not only know what you buy, but also for who. As well as how much you listen to it, and so forth. I know it will not change, but even with the pluses of checking out music before you buy it, if you can find it, I prefer the way it was before personally. It is like Rob Zombie has theorized, how much longer will artists put out albums? Not to mention the technology has led to star search like music, and computer noises on steroids. I like real drumming not drum machines and alike.
I think we're talking about different things now. My point is that it is easier than ever before for new bands to reach fans, and easier for fans to discover new music. Seems like you're talking specifically about the quality of pop music, which I agree is a mass-produced shame these days where marketability matters a lot more than actual talent. To make it in any variety of rock, you still need to know how to play the instruments like always, and there are still new bands coming out and putting out good music.

One last quick point. I think people are missing, and/or forgetting how relaxing browsing in a music store, I could add movies/tv DVDs, was. For me, I always found it incredible for relaxation. Looking through the stacks, you would remember good stuff you were not thinking of. It was also a nice place to meet people.
I do miss the social aspect of those days, but I still prefer the unlimited accessibility of music today. Record stores couldn't stock EVERYTHING, so you were limited to what they had, and you couldn't really check out a band you haven't heard from before without having to buy an album first. I remember giving and receiving recommendations to and from strangers in the store, but not everyone has the same tastes so sometimes it was a swing and a miss, which made me more hesitant to spend money on newer bands going forward. Now, I get into new bands much more frequently because that obstacle is gone, and that's a great thing for the bands too.
 
After 43 years in business, the owners are apparently retiring with their last day on 7/31 - unfortunate that they're not being bought by someone to continue the store. Probably hard to sustain such a business with so much of music now being digital. Been going to the Fords location for at least 35 years and bought many, many albums and CDs there, as well as seeing numerous bands play there, including the Old 97s, Cloud Nothings, Titus Andronicus and Fountains of Wayne (4 of my favorite bands). Will have to pay a visit shortly - they'll be missed.

https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/vintage-vinyl-the-end-of-an-era-in-nj.1093781/
Very sad day. Musicians I have seen perform at Vintage Vinyl include Rhett Miller, Alejandro Escoveda, Everclear, Pinegrove, Julien Baker …
 
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I think we're talking about different things now. My point is that it is easier than ever before for new bands to reach fans, and easier for fans to discover new music. Seems like you're talking specifically about the quality of pop music, which I agree is a mass-produced shame these days where marketability matters a lot more than actual talent. To make it in any variety of rock, you still need to know how to play the instruments like always, and there are still new bands coming out and putting out good music.


I do miss the social aspect of those days, but I still prefer the unlimited accessibility of music today. Record stores couldn't stock EVERYTHING, so you were limited to what they had, and you couldn't really check out a band you haven't heard from before without having to buy an album first. I remember giving and receiving recommendations to and from strangers in the store, but not everyone has the same tastes so sometimes it was a swing and a miss, which made me more hesitant to spend money on newer bands going forward. Now, I get into new bands much more frequently because that obstacle is gone, and that's a great thing for the bands too.
Good points from both you and @TM94goRU . While I enjoyed the experience of going to the record/CD store, there are a lot of positive aspects to digital music.

I get introduced to a lot of new music from listening to various radio stations such as Brookdale's altrok station, and several internet radio stations such as hard radio (www.hardradio.com ) and crucial velocity (crucialvelocity.ca ). Then, going to YouTube to check out something new, I have found some interesting new (and old bands) in the YouTube feed.

The lead singer of a mostly disbanded hardcore band out of Buffalo called Snapcase has some interesting thoughts that are in line with mine on how the music listening/purchasing landscape has changed for the better in the digital age. Things evolve.

"Streaming services and the Internet in general have given today’s young music fans a much more complete view of music history than any generation before, and that, he says, has made the era a band was active almost unimportant.

It's not always about what's the most current thing, the latest thing,” he says. “Younger people have access to so much more music and so quickly. A lot of younger kids want to know where everything came from and listen to the roots. Of course, whenever you listen to music from some source online, it will recommend other things you might like, and I think that's another thing that leads kids to different music. I’m always surprised that there are younger kids who come to the shows and sing along. That's always a cool thing.”
Taberski, a confessed late adopter of social media, says he, too, has had his eyes opened by the myriad ways the Internet has changed the music landscape.

“I never really got into it,” he says, “but I did pick up on Instagram a few years ago, and I really enjoy it, actually, seeing a lot of bands that I was acquainted with over the years, to see what they're up to and see all these bands that are still playing, whether it's Gorilla Biscuits, Shelter, Youth of Today or Sick of It All. But also, you learn about so many new bands and see that not only are these old bands reuniting and playing, but they're having current bands playing as well. I have to tell you, it's like the most positive experience I've had in years.” "

 
At first, I wondered what would lead to a fixation on vintage vinyl clothes. And then I thought, not that there’s anything wrong with that.
 
Hardly any record stores left booo. I don’t think kids have any idea what they are missing spending hours in a store, just looking around at all the album covers, meeting people interested in all kinds of music, talking about concerts they went to or upcoming shows. Some sold concert tickets in the shop too. I think Princeton Record Exchange and Jacks are still around. I don’t think there are any Compact Disc World locations left. —Boooo
Actually the buying and selling of records is HUGE again. We listen to records more then anything now. There are lots of new businesses that sell records and record players.
 
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