I've been pumping my own gas in New England for a long time. My hands never smelled like gas when I was done.
Also, the reason gas is cheap in New Jersey? N.J. has the second lowest state tax per gallon, Alaska being the cheapest.
OT: Why do people from out of state get out of their cars at full serve gas stations
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Also, the reason gas is cheap in New Jersey? N.J. has the second lowest state tax per gallon, Alaska being the cheapest.
I'm going with:
they're simply used to doing as much and/or, at least for a good % of out-of-state drivers, they simply don't realize they're not pumping their own gas until they are out of the car.
they're simply used to doing as much and/or, at least for a good % of out-of-state drivers, they simply don't realize they're not pumping their own gas until they are out of the car.
I've never felt like I ended up with my hands smelling like gasoline? Maybe you just need more practice. [winking]
That's a really good question, and falls under the purview of the Philosophy Department's examination of Contemporary Existentialist Concerns. Very heady stuff but undoubtedly solvable. The flip side is--which you've no doubt already thought about--is the Horsepower Neutrality Principle, which states that the gas station loses a horsepower for every one the horse gains. Just saying.
On a side note, I'm winning this thread, which is very important to me today.
I mostly like Upstream's posts, but he should really stop talking about this. That whole rambling post to complain about waiting ... What, an extra 45 seconds? Since you don't seem to know, maybe the guy was wearing the jacket when he got there and got out to take it off because he was hot, grabbing some fresh air while he was out.
Maybe the problem isn't people pumping their own gas, maybe it's that so many people in NJ act like impatient, self-important brats. Where I live, people leave their cars at the pump (gasp) while they run in to the store to get something. Mostly it doesn't matter because it's not that busy, but even if it is, you wait two extra minutes and move on with your happy day ... And you don't even complain about it after the fact on your favorite football message board.
Maybe the problem isn't people pumping their own gas, maybe it's that so many people in NJ act like impatient, self-important brats. Where I live, people leave their cars at the pump (gasp) while they run in to the store to get something. Mostly it doesn't matter because it's not that busy, but even if it is, you wait two extra minutes and move on with your happy day ... And you don't even complain about it after the fact on your favorite football message board.
really am surprised that most folks really want to pump on their own - I've done it in my travels and disagree the fumes and the smell does get on your hands regardless of a spill free fill up. As far as time savings - really not that great. Surprised at other commentators who do not comprehend the words "one of the reasons". By the way - I am sure your wives or significant others do not want NJ to be self service - but hey so be it!
Some people need their man cards taken away.
The OP's complaint that he had to wait because the other guy pumped it himself is completely bogus. Someone who drives in, gets out and pumps their own always be faster than waiting for an attendant to show up and start the process. What is even a bigger waste of time is waiting for the attendant to recognize that the pump stopped some time ago and take the pump handle out of your car.
Besides by me pumping my own they have more time to cater to those won't do it themselfs.
The OP's complaint that he had to wait because the other guy pumped it himself is completely bogus. Someone who drives in, gets out and pumps their own always be faster than waiting for an attendant to show up and start the process. What is even a bigger waste of time is waiting for the attendant to recognize that the pump stopped some time ago and take the pump handle out of your car.
Besides by me pumping my own they have more time to cater to those won't do it themselfs.
I have, in fact, given a great deal of thought to the aforementioned flip-side. Although I tend to think of it more as the law of conservation than horsepower neutrality. Regardless of what one calls it, there are clearly some very concerning issues in play.
For example, if a horse were to consume 93 octane fuel blended with a fairly large percentage of ethanol, enough so as to double the horse's power, could the horse potentially explode? I mean, we're talking some highly combustible stuff here.
Which begs a separate, but related question about the genesis of the word combustible. As pronounced, it's hard to say if the word originated in the world of physics or engineering, or if it originated in the porn world. This I find most troubling as I'm not very good at dealing with ambiguity.
I used to pump my own gas all the time in NJ as the attendant was taking his time. By the time he'd waddle over tank was mostly full. Other times I'd get out just to make them hustle over but most of the time they had no issue. Very rarely would I be told that I wasn't supposed to.
I took a 6 minute process and turned it into 2-3 most of the time.
I took a 6 minute process and turned it into 2-3 most of the time.
30 years in Jersey. 15 years in CA. whenever I visit NJ I still get out of the care at the gas station- force of habit.
And for the record, self-service is waaaaay better.
And for the record, self-service is waaaaay better.
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BTW the safety reason was always a cover for protecting Mom & Pop gas stations from price competition from bigger more efficient cost cutters. They had a good lobby and pliant legislators. Sort of like if today they banned self service check outs at the supermarket because corner bodegas couldn't compete.
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The real reason self-service gas was banned in NJ: Corruption (Mulshine)
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The real reason self-service gas was banned in NJ: Corruption (Mulshine)
Welcome to NJ ... where grown men on a football forum make up weak, nonsense reasons for not wanting to do simple, everyday things like pump gas. "Oh noes! Gas on my hand! And it's chilly ... my nipples are so hard they ache!"
Oh. That's because it's cold? I thought you were just happy to see me.
Now that'd just lead to Upstream having to wait even longer behind the car ..
I find the majority of the people who abandon cars at the pump tend to be from Pennsy.
The thing that annoys me the most is seeing someone drive a Prius hold up a line to get 2 gallons of gas. You have a 10 gallon tank, at 50mpg, you had range to go nearly 400 miles and you're stopping for not even 4 bucks in gas.
The thing that annoys me the most is seeing someone drive a Prius hold up a line to get 2 gallons of gas. You have a 10 gallon tank, at 50mpg, you had range to go nearly 400 miles and you're stopping for not even 4 bucks in gas.
Priuses annoy me in general, not just in gas stations. I know of no other car that more consistently can be found driving very slowly in the fast lanes of every road than Priuses. And Prius drivers seem to have a chip on their shoulder or something. Like driving such a wussy car makes them overcompensate by driving aggressively around town.
It's a wussy car. Own it.
Often ending up with gas smell on your hands is not related to your technique - it can have a lot to do with the sloppy technique of the guy before you - They get it on the hand grip (how? I'm not sure) maybe they got aggressive sloppy trying to squeeze in the last drops ? maybe they were uncoordinated dorks who twist the hose around the wrong way / then the right war trying to put it back in the resting location... spilling a bit in the process - it just take a few drops and then you have " eau de Exxon" on your hands
And until yesterday, I have not waited more than 20 seconds for full serve in NJ, since I can remember.
Maybe your short waits don't have to do with you moving from NJ, but have to do with gas pumps becoming faster (including faster for credit card payments) in the past 26 years.
Or maybe my lack of waiting is that I just go to efficient full serve gas stations.
Toyota should really do a sleeper Prius, the way it did the Sleeper Camry, a beautiful 850 hp piece of wheeled testosterone.
The Sleeper Camry is embarrassed that people are still complaining about getting gas on their freshly Jergensed hands.
The Camry engine is, or maybe was, the engine for one of the boutique exotic sports cars out there. I forget which one, maybe an older model Lotus Evora.Toyota should really do a sleeper Prius, the way it did the Sleeper Camry, a beautiful 850 hp piece of wheeled testosterone.
The Sleeper Camry is embarrassed that people are still complaining about getting gas on their freshly Jergensed hands.
Toyota should really do a sleeper Prius, the way it did the Sleeper Camry, a beautiful 850 hp piece of wheeled testosterone.
The Sleeper Camry is embarrassed that people are still complaining about getting gas on their freshly Jergensed hands.
here you go - -
http://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsports/news/a27977/toyota-prius-super-gt/
see one on right .... not really a 'sleeper' but does retain the Prius' Hybrid Synergy Drive system
There is one legit reason to get out and watch the attendant. On a fill up they try to get to the nearest whole dollar, especially if you are paying cash. I caught one dude dumping about a quart of gas out of my overflow line onto the concrete, just to get to $20.
A simple word study would show that the word "ambiguity" also has its roots in the pernicious world of which you spoke, to which "combustible" may belong.
As for the Exploding Horse Syndrome, early studies show that it is a misnomer, as gasoline simply enables horses to talk.
I don't know that I fully agree that that world is pernicious in it's entirety. And I like to take care to not throw out the baby with the bathwater. I might even hope to find my future ex working as talent in said industry. The trick will be to find a willing wench with an IQ over 150. For that would be the bust of both worlds.
Regarding that last bit, all I can say is: oh, Wilbur.
Growing up in NJ and moving out-of-state, it took some getting used to, to pump your own gas. Now as an out-of-state resident, I've had second-nature urge to get out of my car and pump gas when in NJ. It happens easily. I've tamed it and now know to stay in my car when getting gas in NJ. The rest of the out-of-staters who try to pump their own gas in NJ are those who don't know it's not allowed or are too arrogant and obnoxious to care.
lol This. I don't get some people. Which asscrack of NJ do they live in where it takes more than a few mins to get gassed up by an attendant at a regular station? Why would you want to do a job that ppl are offering to do for you FOR FREE in the same or less amount of time? One less thing to think about. It's putting gas in a tank not painting a portrait. It's not like they're going to screw up.
Also I'm not ready to put my faith in your every day jackass taking a year at the pump and hold everything up. NJ is densely populated as it is. You make everyone pump their own gas here and you have yourself a statewide headache. It wouldn't be the same as other out of state self-serve experiences. I see no logic in wanting to do it yourself other than maybe the convenience of not having stations close on you at night.
Who you? If you meant me, my day has been spectacular and just keeps getting better.
If this was remotely true then why would any station be self service? Just think about it for a second. If you owned a gas station and could save money and lower your gas price why in the world would you have self service?
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