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Ray Rice belongs in the Rutgers Hall of Fame after a decade spent atoning for ‘worst moment’

Don't forget lunging at his eyes with her fingers and nails... while both were so very drunk. It looked like a very defensive and instinctual reaction... and then his drunken state prevented him from showing any remorse. I thought the courts handled it correctly.. and so should Rutgers and the rest of us. If his victim.. his wife.. forgave him and there were no such incidents before or after... why should he continue to be punished?

A curious thing was the wife is from Mt Vernon High and they have a long history of fights with New Rochelle High.
A few of the rivalry football games (started in 1897) had fans banned from stadium and only police were present.
When I read his girl was from Mt Vernon I was like "uh oh" lol.
 
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Fagetabout it. Let him in . He has atoned. Have you never felt like slugging your wife? Mine has thrown knives at me. But it’s just an Italian thing. Still in love 56 years later. Conbat combat ability . LOL
 
He has atoned and should be in, maybe greatest RU player ever, if he stayed his final year probably breaks NCAA rushing record. Schiano should stand up for him because no RR and his career is trajectory aint the same.
 
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He has atoned and should be in, maybe greatest RU player ever, if he stayed his final year probably breaks NCAA rushing record. Schiano should stand up for him because no RR and his career is trajectory aint the same.
Greg should stand up for Rice not just because of the player Ray was but how Ray Rice admitted he had a problem, went out and did something about the problem then became a spokesman that went out trying to help others keep from having the same problem or if they have it, get help so it can be fixed and become a better person..
 
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Speaking of controversy... and no one should reply to this here.. but take the idea over to CE board... these campus protests all over the news.. over-under on it directly affecting Rutgers football games at home or the road? It is football-related.. so people maybe should be cognizant of the possibilities.. but is too politically charged to discuss here.
 
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Laurence Taylor and Ray Lewis were both first vote NFL HOFs, and they make Ray Rice look like a choir boy. Given our very uninspiring sports history, why are we coming up with excuses to keep Ray out? Rutgers should very clearly state this only has to do with on the field performance while at Rutgers. If there is any blow back it will be very short lived.
 
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If your daughter forgave him (and she did) why wouldn’t you? Christianity is all about forgiveness. The law forgave him, the Ravens forgave him and his wife forgave him. Time for RU to do the same
If my daughter forgave a man who punched her full force in a casino elevator I would have some SERIOUS self reflection to do in my shortcomings of a father in teaching her about self respect.

Again, I will state in NO WAY do I believe Ray Rice should be dragged through the mud again, he clearly has made an effort to better himself and has earned the right to live his life however he chooses. No one's denying that. The disconnect comes when you celebrate the man. A man capable of doing such a thing in NO CAPACITY should be celebrated. Some things are bigger than sports
 
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Forgiveness is one thing, to celebrate an individual is something completely different. While I may not personally forgive Rice for what he did I am no person to judge how others want to forgive, and if they choose to forgive that's absolutely fine. It's an entirely different discussion when it comes to "celebrating and honoring" the man. Some things are too egregious to forgive, see Joe Paterno. I will never support honoring an abuser. Regardless of forgiveness, you don't celebrate abusers
 
Many people feel the way you do.
It's just that the woman involved forgave him, married him and still is with him that makes me think those that can't forgive aren't looking at the whole picture and might not even try.
Especially after what Rice has been doing since that incident to make himself a better person, admit his behavior was unacceptable and be out there trying to keep others from doing the same.
The main thing is relationships need to be loving and violence has no part in in any relationship.
Ray was wrong and no excuse s can be given, but when alcohol is involved bad things tend to happen a lot easier especially when both have a bit too much .
Being drunk isn't an excuse or even a valid reason, at any time, for hitting a woman .

But trying to atone for what you did and how the injured party feels needs to be taking into consideration when it comes to forgiveness .
That is unless you qualify to be the one to "cast the first stone" and that isn't just in this case alone, but any and every mistake one made that could have adversely affected others .

for added thought
Janay Rice gives her own account of night in Atlantic City - ESPN
Which is why he deserves to live his life as he wants, as his family is able to.

However I will die on the hill that it is inappropriate to HONOR a man who the entire world has seen punch a woman in the face with such furiosity that she was knocked immediately unconscious.

When we HONOR someone, it's due to that person being a model citizen. If people want to forgive Rice that is perfectly acceptable. We don't "Honor" abusers though. Not where I come from and not how I was raised
 
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