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Responses to People Giving You Grief About Rutgers

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I know I ,and probably many of you have had people you know (and even strangers), come up to you and give you grief about Rutgers. What responses do you give them ? Please keep this clean (nothing that rhymes with duck). Here are my three depending on the situation--

1) Rutgers runs one of the cleanest programs in the country decade after decade. We have been to bowl games in 9 of the last ten years. We aren't in the Top 10,but our kids graduate. --What schools do you know of that are consistently in the Top 10,have very good academics,and don't cheat. Sometimes, I'll hear Stanford,but usually just crickets

2) If they keep saying "your school" and they are from New Jersey, I remind them that it is their school too.

3) If they are wearing something from a school in another state, I ask them when did they move to New Jersey from Pennsy,Alabama,Indiana,Ohio,Michigan,Florida,etc.
 
You should put these talking points on a sign, sell the sign on a website, and earn your own referral fees through your linking process.
 
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RBS,
I just got lifetime rights to those phrases. For those of you would like to lease Heaven's "Rutgers Semi-witty Responses", here is the website--
 
No young boys were raped during our transgressions.

Joe REALLY didn't know about what HCKF was doing.
 
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I am sure Areyounuts tried to find a picture that said Meanie or Poopyhead,but google was all out today.
 
Honestly: tell them to look up "The Fulmer Cup" as well as articles regarding the insane # of arrests, at State Penn, during JoePa's last 5-6 seasons. Most are beyond shocked to find out how many schools have ridiculous #'s of arrests, yearly, once showed the facts.
 
The only response I have is that at least the school has enough integrity to take these situations seriously (particularly the Flood incident) and that most places...UNC...Auburn...would look to hide any appearance of impropriety. Additionally, Flood's actions, while buffoonish, weren't particularly serious in terms of how much pressure he was willing to exert on the academic side of the university.
 
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I say: "I have no explanation other than we're learning to do what other big-time schools do, only we're new at it and stumbling a bit, as is evident in our admitting thugs to play for us and trying to keep them eligible and on the straight and narrow, within the rules as outlined by the university, the B1G, the NCAA, and Our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ. If you have a moment I'd like to tell you about my close personal relationship with the Lord and my path to salvation, of which, you may know, is as narrow and as difficult to travel as a razor's edge. It won't take long, really. An hour or two should do it. And I'll only ask for a small contribution to my ministry at the conclusion. It began, you see, with my . . . . ."

As they walk away shaking their head, I follow for a bit then stop, and say, "Hey, Buddy. Come back. You started this. Let me share."
 
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Problems taken care of without trying to make them look less than they were and not trying to cover up anything that happened
Punishment handed out to those Rutgers can discipline and courts will take care of those Rutgers already dismissed from the school.
FB HC's actions weren't tolerated or excused and he was punished for not following Rutgers' Academic Support System policy like he was supposed to do.
Lastly I would say Rutgers handled every problem it faced quickly and efficiently once it received all the facts regarding those incidents.
Adding I'm proud of the way RU took full responsibility and from the beginning admitted the problems it faced were serious ones and handled them that way.
 
I tell them to look at Florida States back field last year and this year. Explain what they've done and then ask why are they still allowed to play and how does a coach get away with this? Most people look at me dumb founded and have no answer. Stops the conversation pretty quick.
 
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Here's what to say...

Rutgers academic standing has improved since joining the Big Ten.

Rutgers Football costs the taxpayer ZERO and will actually be a profit center in a few years, guaranteed by Big Ten money coming in.

If these problems happened at an SEC school you'd have never heard about them. At Rutgers they all get investigated and prosecuted, as it should be.

Rutgers Football has been a leader in academics for over a decade. This is an aberration that is being corrected.

I am actually more concerned as to why the Faculty representative at Rutgers is playing to the media by suggesting Rutgers is in academic free-fall. By all objective measurements this is not the case, so why is this guy saying it is.. and that Football is to blame?
 
Depends on who the person busting balls roots for. Here's some I had try to bust mine:

Penn St.: Seriously?

Ohio State: Two Words, Maurice Clarett

Notre Dame: You do realize you had players dismissed from your program two years in a row for academic misconduct right?

Wake Forest: Seriously, you lost to Syracuse last weekend in a huge ACC rivalry game and you want to bust my balls.

USF: Dude, Jason Pierre Paul never attended one class, and was so stupid he blew his hand off. Your coaches are/were all idiots like Leavitt, and you are in a rinky dink conference with Uconn as your biggest game. Go worry about playing UCF.

For the rest, I just joke....."hey when you are in a big time conference, you need a little scandal once in a while to act like you belong!"
 
Usually I have to fill them in on the 14 other things that they didn't realize happened recently to Rutgers players, and then I remind them how pointless most of the stuff was (other than Flood's stupidity to flaunt his disregard of the rules, and of course I can't defend the players' idiocy). Honestly, nobody seems to care, or at least whoever I talk to.
 
Here's what to say...

Rutgers academic standing has improved since joining the Big Ten.

Rutgers Football costs the taxpayer ZERO and will actually be a profit center in a few years, guaranteed by Big Ten money coming in.

If these problems happened at an SEC school you'd have never heard about them. At Rutgers they all get investigated and prosecuted, as it should be.

Rutgers Football has been a leader in academics for over a decade. This is an aberration that is being corrected.

I am actually more concerned as to why the Faculty representative at Rutgers is playing to the media by suggesting Rutgers is in academic free-fall. By all objective measurements this is not the case, so why is this guy saying it is.. and that Football is to blame?

Because Union leaders love using the football program as a scapegoat as to why they couldn't get them a better contract, which of course is completely and utter bullsh!t. If Rutgers dropped football, they wouldn't get paid anymore than they do now. Their naivety in this is truly mind-blowing. The real reason why Princeton professors get paid more is not because Princeton doesn't offer sports scholarships (that said every single member of the football team is on a full scholarship, just not a sports one) the real reason is because you know they are PRINCETON PROFESSORS. Do professors at Stanford, Duke, Northwestern make any less because those schools have Power 5 football teams?

Why people think they should get rich at a non-profit is beyond me. Time to get real. If they wanted to blame anyone legitimately, blame Trenton for cutting funding every year.
 
I know I ,and probably many of you have had people you know (and even strangers), come up to you and give you grief about Rutgers. What responses do you give them ? Please keep this clean (nothing that rhymes with duck). Here are my three depending on the situation--

1) Rutgers runs one of the cleanest programs in the country decade after decade. We have been to bowl games in 9 of the last ten years. We aren't in the Top 10,but our kids graduate. --What schools do you know of that are consistently in the Top 10,have very good academics,and don't cheat. Sometimes, I'll hear Stanford,but usually just crickets

2) If they keep saying "your school" and they are from New Jersey, I remind them that it is their school too.

3) If they are wearing something from a school in another state, I ask them when did they move to New Jersey from Pennsy,Alabama,Indiana,Ohio,Michigan,Florida,etc.

1. Prior to these arrests, Rutgers had one of the highest ratios of wins to arrests in the nation and this was more attributable to the very low number of arrests than winning all of our games.
2. At most of the football factories, these incidences would either be considered business as usual or, in the case of Flood's email and the altercations, would not have been reported.
 
A former Rutgers roller hockey teammate of mine posted this blog post, which I think does a good job of summing the whole thing up from a Rutgers perspective. http://www.unsportsmanlike-conduct....-lines-calls-rutgers-a-national-embarrassment

I shared it on Facebook and added the following:

What makes it even more of a double-standard is that the school has punished these infractions much better than other schools have done with theirs, but this is just being completely ignored by the self-serving media. The people who were arrested before the season started were quickly kicked off the team without waiting for them to be convicted first, Leonte Carroo has been suspended indefinitely, regardless of the fact that he is one of the best players, for intervening in a fight between his ex-girlfriend and his current girlfriend, and the head coach has been suspended for three games and fined for emailing a professor about a player's grade.

On the other hand, we have Florida State, who waited until football season was over before starting their weak investigation of their quarterback raping another student, which ended with no punishment even though there was a video of it and the DNA test showed it was him.
http://www.nytimes.com/.../errors-in-inquiry-on-rape...

Regarding athletics intersecting with academics, there is Auburn University, whose curriculum review committee decided to eliminate the public administration major because it was found to contribute very little to the school's academic mission, but the committee was overruled because over half of the major's students were athletes, including most of the football team's best players.
http://www.wsj.com/.../at-auburn-athletics-and-academics...

Next up is North Carolina, who provided fake classes to thousands of athletes over a span of 18 years, resulting in some people receiving straight A's without ever having stepped into a classroom so that they can remain academically eligible to play sports.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/22/us/unc-report-academic-fraud/

Then there is Penn State, whose football coach, athletic director, president, and vice president were all found by the FBI in 2012 to have been aware of an assistant coach raping children in the football team's locker room as far back as 1998, but they lied about it to a grand jury and continued to employ him as he continued raping children for another eleven years, but their cult of a fanbase still worships this head coach.
https://en.wikipedia.org/.../Penn_State_child_sex_abuse...

But no, Rutgers University, where the football team is actually NOT bigger than the school, is a national embarrassment.
 
Here's what to say...

Rutgers academic standing has improved since joining the Big Ten.

Rutgers Football costs the taxpayer ZERO and will actually be a profit center in a few years, guaranteed by Big Ten money coming in.

If these problems happened at an SEC school you'd have never heard about them. At Rutgers they all get investigated and prosecuted, as it should be.

Rutgers Football has been a leader in academics for over a decade. This is an aberration that is being corrected.

I am actually more concerned as to why the Faculty representative at Rutgers is playing to the media by suggesting Rutgers is in academic free-fall. By all objective measurements this is not the case, so why is this guy saying it is.. and that Football is to blame?

Because Professor Hughes feels the money and attention that goes to Football should be focused on SAS instead.
 
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