RU commits Reynolds and Morgan to take OV's...

[Raritan83]

When you applied to college, did you have a safety school? Maybe it was Rutgers. Is this really all that different?

Sure, I might have had a safety school but I didn't send in my deposit to that school while waiting to hear back from others. I didn't commit to a school until I knew I was going there.

 

[ag67]

I will start questioning the character or recruits when you start question the charachter of the coaches who can pull a scholarship offer at anytime. It easy for us to judge but we are not the ones gambling with a free education. Some kids are one injury away from not getting a free education. Until scholarship offer is non revocable I see no problem with a kid committing to hold a spot. These kids get lied to non stop by coaches. They are constantly being told you are our guy. We want you then all the sudden the calls stop and they won't even return your calls. Both sides are playing games. So it best the player looks out for their future. You like to judge 17 or 18 years kids but I bet you broken more then your fair share of commitments. Have you ever left a job or broke up with a girl friend? Did you forfeit your character then?

The bottom line is the system is broken and until it get fixed I don't blame either side for playing games.

I agree with your take on the situation. The young men are also at a disadvantage, since this is their first time dealing with the kinds of "sharks" you find at some of these schools. The kids are naive; their suitors are not.

 

[JQRU91]

Sure, I might have had a safety school but I didn't send in my deposit to that school while waiting to hear back from others. I didn't commit to a school until I knew I was going there.

Suppose these kids did it the way you'd like them to. They checked out other programs and waited for better offers right up to before signing day. Say they went and told the coaches then that they wanted to commit to Rutgers. What are the chances that there would still be spots available to take them? Yes, it stinks that it works this way, but these kids are doing what they need to do to keep their options open.

 

[Queztastic]

Need to have an early signing period in the summer where they can take official visits. The early signing period that the NCAA proposed is only two months earlier and I don't see that it helps too much. Kids should be able to take official visits and sign in the summer before their senior year if they want to.

 

[Raritan83]

Suppose these kids did it the way you'd like them to. They checked out other programs and waited for better offers right up to before signing day. Say they went and told the coaches then that they wanted to commit to Rutgers. What are the chances that there would still be spots available to take them? Yes, it stinks that it works this way, but these kids are doing what they need to do to keep their options open.

I agree the system stinks. it works both ways too, what if while these kids hold their spot in case, there really is a kid who KF would offer and RU is that better offer? Well now we have two just holding a spot preventing that kid from getting the offer he wants.

That said his quote still bothers me. To be on the record, as a current RU commit, that he is still seeing if a better offer comes along just seems wrong. He basically said sure I am committed to RU but there are better places out there. I tend to want the kids who want to be here not the ones who want to be here because no one else asked them out

 

[eceres]

Need to have an early signing period in the summer where they can take official visits. The early signing period that the NCAA proposed is only two months earlier and I don't see that it helps too much. Kids should be able to take official visits and sign in the summer before their senior year if they want to.

OV are the problem. I think they should allow officials starting as soon as The prior class commits. They still would be limited to the 5...

Early signing is helpful but the lack of officials is what stops kids without money from being 100%

 

[JoeRU0304]

...he really said he's waiting to see if a 'better offer' comes along??? What was the point of a public commitment then? That makes just as much sense as saying "I want to come here, but I don't, but I might if I don't."


Joe P.

 

[red_sky]

And people have problems with Kelvin Harmon wanting to take some OVs before deciding???

 

[Caliknight]

If Pitt is the main comp, lock em up for Rutgers. We are killing them on the recruiting trail.

 

[Section118]

In today's day and age, you can't hard line recruits. It doesn't matter what program you are.

Not trying to turn this into a PSU thread, but that's what I know.

Lavert Hill has been flirting with Michigan and MSU for the last few months but has yet to flip. PSU would be doing themselves a disservice by cutting him IMO. If they hang on to him it will be a big deal.

Miles Sanders has been at PITT since recruiting to PSU and said he would take his officials when he did commit. He is a R100 RB. It does PSU no good to hardline him.

Shane Simmons said the same thing. He has yet to take visits but could. He is a R100 and an ESPN 5*.

Until CFB comes up with an early signing period, this is what we should expect it. Do I like it? No. I absolutely loved that Seymour stuck with you last year after being courted by Penn State. Says a lot about the kid IMO.

I don't get caught up with it with PSU kids any longer because I think that letting them play things out is better than going the Brady Hoke route. If a kid doesn't stick (Fuller, Barajas, Wimbush) then so be it.

yea no one cares about your recruits and what they are doing, have a nice day

 

[mdk01]

And people have problems with Kelvin Harmon wanting to take some OVs before deciding???

Harmon hasn't verballed anywhere yet. It's an entirely different set of circumstances. If people have problems with that, I suggest it is they who have the problem.

 

[rucoe89]

As I posted in another thread, this is why it makes complete sense that Flood may be looking to bring in more recruits as he knows a couple of the kids may decommit. May explain the continued push for Harmon, Liang, Valentin and a few others. This is a smart move by Flood. If one of these folks commits, such as Valentin, I think we have to be ready for an equivalent 'ship to be pulled from those taking visits, such as Morgan. It seems fair and the kids need to understand aspect or just not commit. To that extent, props to Harmon for not committing until he is absolutely sure.

 

[red_sky]

Harmon hasn't verballed anywhere yet. It's an entirely different set of circumstances. If people have problems with that, I suggest it is they who have the problem.

That is my point. These same people were upset Harmon didn't commit back in June.

 

[devoted2ru]

The discrepancy between the stance recruits take regarding loyalty to a program once they've given a verbal can be pretty dramatic.

Case in point is 2* Rutgers DB commit Damon Hayes from Upper Maryland, Md. -When Damon recently made a return trip to RU he was asked if he was being pursued by any other program? Damon's reply to that question was, "Maryland tried talking to me, but I'm sold on Rutgers".

A somewhat different response came from Justin Morgan, also a 2* recruit, when asked about the status of his verbal: "I'm a loyal person", he said. "I committed to a school for a reason. I'm not gonna break my loyalty. But if something better comes along, you have to consider it".

Could simply be the result of my own interpretation of things, but to me, the first statement given is an example of a young guy who understands the meaning of a commitment. -The 2nd one? Well, somehow I doubt that in the dictionary definition of the word "loyalty" there's a caveat about being loyal until "something better comes along". ...Just sayin'.