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RU Econ Prof Killingsworth Op-Ed in NJcom

Meh

RU averaged 22-24k fans at games just before GS. Then McCormick, Bob M and GS worked together to infuse program with energy and vision. Ticket sales went up over 20% a year for like 8 years. Then Bob M got fired for nothing much. GS and McCormick departures followed. Pres Barky, Ms Doubtfire and Flood now hold command - the commitment and fire are gone - so are the fanst.

There is so much misinformation, right here, I had to stop reading (and I agree re: Flood).

That being said , YES, our fans are "cheap." No doubt about it.
 
This is all very easily solved, increase the state sales tax from 7% to 7.25% and earmark the additional funds to Rutgers athletics. After all, Rutgers is the state flagship university, every citizen of the state should be expected to contribute to its success. I don't see how anybody could object to that small increase going to such a great cause.
 
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This is all very easily solved, increase the state sales tax from 7% to 7.25% and earmark the additional funds to Rutgers athletics. After all, Rutgers is the state flagship university, every citizen of the state should be expected to contribute to its success. I don't see how anybody could object to that small increase going to such a great cause.

Increasing the sales tax and earmarking that increase towards RU Athletics will just get the State Legislator making even more noise in their effort to control the BOG and will have more NJ residents support that idea because of the increase.
A good idea, but could backfire .
 
Rutgers fans and alums are cheap in general. If not our endowment would not be as pitifully low as it is. We have been around for 250 years to boot. A cheap and old fan base that complain about everything. That is why we have Flood. Thank you to the get off my lawn crowd lol. Just teasing but we are a horrid cheap fanbase. That article has a boat load of truths in it.
 
So what are the fine Professors accolades? What is the rating, undergraduate and graduate, of the economics department?
 
Rutgers fans and alums are cheap in general. If not our endowment would not be as pitifully low as it is. We have been around for 250 years to boot. A cheap and old fan base that complain about everything. That is why we have Flood. Thank you to the get off my lawn crowd lol. Just teasing but we are a horrid cheap fanbase. That article has a boat load of truths in it.

It's why the school should try and appeal to the more affluent of NJ, and focus less on the rest.

NJ's greatest export isn't tomatoes. It's college students from wealthy families who are more apt to give.

It's a process though. Our fan base has to develop, just as our programs and department have to at this level.
 
I'm motivated to make another donation. We need to vote with our wallets. But I also think that RU AD needs to get more aggressive with their fundraising. Maybe they need Killingsworh to sign on as an advisor!
I don't think the AD needs another person lecturing alumni they need to raise more money
"And if you claim you'd contribute, but only if the team wins first, then you don't deserve to be called a fan."
Completely and entirely agree.

"Instead, they, and the presidents they have appointed, have taken ever-increasing amounts of money from academics without ever achieving anything serious for athletics."
Dead wrong. HPSS+Expansion = B1G invite. I'd call that something serious. We're a B1G school, as he's happy to say as his main point. That's something serious achieved for athletics.

His other points are meh to me. Those two stood out.
Neither of those two things are achievements in this context. The stadium expansion was supposed to be funded by private, outside money and it wasn't, and the Big Ten invitation (a) was about television sets instead of Rutgers Athletics success and (b) isn't an achievement if Rutgers is always DFL in the standings. -- all points sustained by the op-ed's thesis.
 
What that tells me is that RU knew all along it couldn't afford to compete in the Big10 and was/is only interested in the bigger paycheck.

By the time RU reaches the donation levels the others are at now, those others will be even farther ahead.

I think we all hope this isn't true, but it isn't easy finding evidence to the contrary.
 
This is all very easily solved, increase the state sales tax from 7% to 7.25% and earmark the additional funds to Rutgers athletics. After all, Rutgers is the state flagship university, every citizen of the state should be expected to contribute to its success. I don't see how anybody could object to that small increase going to such a great cause.
The Star Ledger and NJ 101.5 would get very large erections. And that would not end well.
 
Money helps but is not the end all to success. For all those who missed it, the Kansas City Royals won the World Series this year,
 
It's unrealistic to expect fans to donate huge amounts of money to a football program that doesn't give them much in return. Maybe it's not fair to demand the team win a lot before donating but it's NOT too much to ask that the team ENTERTAIN fans. Here is yet another place where our dull ass offense hurts us. You can lose and still give fans some excitement and something to latch onto with pride like a cutting edge offense or you can lose boring with an offense that doesn't score and has rbs hitting the pile again and again.

There is always the horse. Great video and quite entertaining.
 
I can't argue with any of what Killingsworth said in that opinion piece. He's right. If you don't give then don't bitch about the piss poor situation we're in. NJ is one of the richest states in the US and Rutgers is treated by so many of the New Jersey population, not as a source of pride like all of the other state schools nationwide, but rather an unnecessary evil that the state has to put up with.

I've never seen anything like it and I've lived for 32 years outside of NJ. Where I live in California the UC schools have so much pride while Rutgers is treated like the red headed stepchild that no one wants to be with. It's time more people in NJ realize they have a GREAT SCHOOL and start giving to it instead of bitching why Rutgers isn't better in sports and slipping in the academic rankings. Rutgers needs to be a source of pride and not a loathsome school students apply to and attend because it's their best or only option. For many in NJ it should be their FIRST OPTION!
 
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Rutgers Football Wishlist
1. A president that gives a damn about football and is willing to support it
2. An AD that can actually talk to the press, isn't afraid of them, realizes that football and football only has a chance of being a profit-maker and stops wasting time on soccer and baseball fields, and yes basketball as well.
3. A head coach that can at least recruit his home state.
4. A football program that will make fans want to see it and support it.
5. The fans noted in #4 above.

We had all 5 until 2012. Barchi, Hermann, and Flood have been a disaster for Rutgers football. Now we have none of these. When the Three Horsemen of the Apocalypse (Ambivalence, Incompetence, and Ignorance) are gone, then and only then can Rutgers Football start rebuilding. Until then, welcome to the 1990's. The more I think about it, I don't want the present administration to choose the next football coach. They'll only doom us for another four years with some cheap, bargain-basement fill-in.
 
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We had all 5 until 2012. .... The more I think about it, I don't want the present administration to choose the next football coach. They'll only doom us for another four years with some cheap, bargain-basement fill-in.

I don't get it. You're pining for the previous administration? They've the ones who hired the current "cheap, bargain-basement fill-in."
 
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