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RU Football APR Ranking Slips

While I hope we don't totally forsake our academic traditions, I'm hopeful that we won't have to use the APR as our claim to fame going forward. That usually means we aren't getting things done on the football field. I would rather we excel on the field. Let that be our calling card from now on.
 
While I hope we don't totally forsake our academic traditions, I'm hopeful that we won't have to use the APR as our claim to fame going forward. That usually means we aren't getting things done on the football field. I would rather we excel on the field. Let that be our calling card from now on.

I understand but don't fully agree with your point. Our APR slipped at the same time our on-field performance slipped. We can both agree that this is never good!
 
I expected the APR to drop now that flood is not writing papers for the players.
 
Something to consider- the recent scores don't include Fall '15 nor the fallout from SummerScandal '15 either.


Joe P.
 
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Something to consider- the recent scores don't include Fall '15 nor the fallout from SummerScandal '15 either.


Joe P.

BINGO. APR is calculated on a four year cumulative rolling basis. It will take a few years to purge the effects of Kyle Flood.

This is why I found it funny when the Floodies were giving Elmer credit for the good APR years under Schiano. These same Floodies will trash Ash next year when the APR ranking is still bad - just watch.
 
While I hope we don't totally forsake our academic traditions, I'm hopeful that we won't have to use the APR as our claim to fame going forward. That usually means we aren't getting things done on the football field. I would rather we excel on the field. Let that be our calling card from now on.
YEA go tell Stanford that, there is no correlation between APR and on field performance as Schiano was building up our ARP average 2001 to 2005 our field performance sucked royally

If that Dance Appreciation TA wasn't such a prick and passed Barnwell, things would have been different. . . . . . :flush:

IF barnwell even showed up the "prick" would have most likely passed him!
the kid was and is a scum bag. The TA was doing her job.
This is Rutgers like it or not and we are in the B10 not the SEC; U want a football factory BAMA want you to join the mindless redneck
 
BINGO. APR is calculated on a four year cumulative rolling basis. It will take a few years to purge the effects of Kyle Flood.

This is why I found it funny when the Floodies were giving Elmer credit for the good APR years under Schiano. These same Floodies will trash Ash next year when the APR ranking is still bad - just watch.
If Ash wins they'll(media) put in their articles how this is related to Flood and not Ash's fault. If Ash loses they'll(media) conveniently leave that part out of the story and attribute it to Ash. It just makes for a more sensational story either way. The Media have all taken their cue from the National Enquirer, sensationalism sells. And the sheep in this world eat it up like it's fact and there's lots of sheep in this world. Stupid bastards
 
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Let's wait to see how far we fell. The numbers also are impacted by transfers and kids being kicked out of school. Not a defense, I'd just like to see the numbers.
 
Let's wait to see how far we fell. The numbers also are impacted by transfers and kids being kicked out of school. Not a defense, I'd just like to see the numbers.
This is incorrect it says it right in the article...
 
another story: http://www.app.com/story/sports/col...ootball-drops-elite-apr-score-ranks/82983640/

Like I mention in another thread today, before this came out. This is what happens when you take shortcuts and focus on the wrong things.


The culture that Flood build here was toxic on all levels, ALL OF THEM.

Thankfully, we are now heading in the right direction on all levels.

A big issue I took from the info was a 4 consecutive semester decline in team GPA with it bottoming out in 2014.


Joe P.
 
The Floodies were and are a cancer on this board. People were pointing out his flaws only to get swarmed by the narrow minded Flood supporters. Those like myself got banned for going against the grain and saying that Flood wasn't the nice man you all were fooled into believing he was. Rutgers Football and image continues to slide because of him.
 
YEA go tell Stanford that, there is no correlation between APR and on field performance as Schiano was building up our ARP average 2001 to 2005 our field performance sucked royally



IF barnwell even showed up the "prick" would have most likely passed him!
the kid was and is a scum bag. The TA was doing her job.
This is Rutgers like it or not and we are in the B10 not the SEC; U want a football factory BAMA want you to join the mindless redneck
Have you ever met or spoken with Barnwell. I will bet 100 to 1 you have not. Calling him a scum bag is absurd. I would call you the scum bag but will stay within the rules of the board and refrain from doing so.
 
team average GPA is 2.5? jesus christ

so much for all that bullshit we heard. Wonder what our APR will be once they factor all the felons
 
YEA go tell Stanford that, there is no correlation between APR and on field performance as Schiano was building up our ARP average 2001 to 2005 our field performance sucked royally
IF barnwell even showed up the "prick" would have most likely passed him!
the kid was and is a scum bag. The TA was doing her job.
This is Rutgers like it or not and we are in the B10 not the SEC; U want a football factory BAMA want you to join the mindless redneck

Imbazza, you really need to understand sarcasm when you see it.
 
YEA go tell Stanford that, there is no correlation between APR and on field performance as Schiano was building up our ARP average 2001 to 2005 our field performance sucked royally

My point is if we have to pat each other on the back because our student athletes got a good APR, then they are probably not doing a great job on the field. Its a consolation prize as far as I'm concerned. I hope the kids all do well in school, but if I was following their educational accomplishments that closely, maybe I should sit in on some Philosophy Classes instead of watching football games on Saturdays.
 
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I've oft oberved that the teams that win do not publicize their apr.
The good ones do, like Stanford.
For Rutgers it was a big thing when Schiano made it a priority. The team that Shea left...or didn't leave could not be found because they couldn't stay eligible.
What Flood did to try to skirt the rules was god awful. I don't care if Ash's recruits don't hit the heights that Schiano hit. Win and be top 25 in the APR rankings is something to be proud of.
 
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team average GPA is 2.5? jesus christ

so much for all that bullshit we heard. Wonder what our APR will be once they factor all the felons
That is an embarrassing drop from 2.968 after Flood's first season

He was an embarassment as a coach, as a leader to our players, and a a human being..I'm willing to bet this isn't our last fallout from the Flood era

He took every shortcut and still couldn't win.. A pigheaded idiot who set our program back years... A sloppy, undisciplined team on the field, off the field, and in the classroom

I'm so happy to have HKCA, who seems to be doing things the right way
 
That is an embarrassing drop from 2.968 after Flood's first season

He was an embarassment as a coach, as a leader to our players, and a a human being..I'm willing to bet this isn't our last fallout from the Flood era

He took every shortcut and still couldn't win.. A pigheaded idiot who set our program back years... A sloppy, undisciplined team on the field, off the field, and in the classroom

I'm so happy to have HKCA, who seems to be doing things the right way

I prefer not to harbor any anger, the man did nothing to me personally. He was paid a great salary, didn't meet the expectations, and was fired. Now we have a much more qualified coach. Lots of reasons to be optimistic
 
I always felt the APR ranking was a total farse. With Schiano and also with Flood it never helped in recruiting imo. Secondly, once Alabama and Ohio State were ranked top 10 I knew it as a total BS award.
 
I prefer not to harbor any anger, the man did nothing to me personally. He was paid a great salary, didn't meet the expectations, and was fired. Now we have a much more qualified coach. Lots of reasons to be optimistic
I agree many reasons to be really happy to have Ash but I do have anger for what Flood did to this program. I don't blame TP or Julie. Money was tight and that was why he was hired and kept on. Finally Trenton stepped in but a few years too late.
 
I know I say this every time one of these threads pops up, so apologies if anybody finds it tedious, but...

APR can be totally gamed. Schiano had great academic supports in place, but they're never going to be 100% effective. His advantage was he knew how to play the APR ratings. I don't think Flood really had the capacity for that. Plus he seemed to have some very strange views on academics, apparently.
 
Flooded recruited loads of players who couldn't athletically or academically cut it. The attrition rate under Kurt was terrible. It was just a matter of time before the APR took a hit.
 
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Flooded recruited loads of players who couldn't athletically or academically cut it. The attrition rate under Kurt was terrible. It was just a matter of time before the APR took a hit.
Shea 2.0
 
Shea > Flood

If I recall, Shea was an honorable man out of his element

Flood was just out of his element
Shea, like Flood, was considered to be a nice guy publicly but both were just smoke and mirrors coaches with no skills running a program
 
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