RU OT: Sober Dorming - Rutgers Spotlighted

[eceres]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...0cfc48-3317-11e6-8758-d58e76e11b12_story.html

Rutger's has had sober dorm "Recovery House" since 1988. Never heard of this before.

 

[MrsScrew]

Great article about an excellent program. It seems like a very low cost easy way to help these students in need stay sober & graduate at the same time. Good find, thanks for sharing.

 

[R1776U]

unless they drug test everyone every few days .. how do you know they're sober????... NA and AA are just groups that get together for coffee and donuts then get effed up with their buddies after the meeting .. basically a social way of getting in touch with other users and calling it sobriety.. i know this for fact

 

[Plum Street]

unless they drug test everyone every few days .. how do you know they're sober????... NA and AA are just groups that get together for coffee and donuts then get effed up with their buddies after the meeting .. basically a social way of getting in touch with other users and calling it sobriety.. i know this for fact

This should be interesting

 

[Scarlet Engineer]

unless they drug test everyone every few days .. how do you know they're sober????... NA and AA are just groups that get together for coffee and donuts then get effed up with their buddies after the meeting .. basically a social way of getting in touch with other users and calling it sobriety.. i know this for fact

The university is not guaranteeing that every student will be sober. It's simply providing a dorm environment that doesn't have the social pressure of drinking or pot smoking. And that environment has worked for many students.

 

[R1776U]

fine... i'll just put it out there then @Plum Street and @Scarlet Engineer

i used to use drugs and have been to many NA meetings in many different towns and the only consistent thing was 90% of people use sobriety and attending meetings just use it as a social network to get fked up... the only way to really get clean is up to you and finding your own inner strength to do it.. also to disconnect yourself from everyone you knew and find new friends that never have ever used.. period... took me a good chunk of my young life to figure that out

 

[RUDutch]

unless they drug test everyone every few days .. how do you know they're sober????... NA and AA are just groups that get together for coffee and donuts then get effed up with their buddies after the meeting .. basically a social way of getting in touch with other users and calling it sobriety.. i know this for fact

Were you sober when you wrote this?

 

[R1776U]

Were you sober when you wrote this?

umm.. no shit.. otherwise i wouldn't be saying it.. at least i'm honest

 

[rubaseball78]

fine... i'll just put it out there then @Plum Street and @Scarlet Engineer

i used to use drugs and have been to many NA meetings in many different towns and the only consistent thing was 90% of people use sobriety and attending meetings just use it as a social network to get fked up... the only way to really get clean is up to you and finding your own inner strength to do it.. also to disconnect yourself from everyone you knew and find new friends that never have ever used.. period... took me a good chunk of my young life to figure that out

So you are saying RU shouldn't have this dorm? RU has been in the forefront of providing this type of atmosphere. There are only a handful of colleges that do. If it helps someone who has a problem avoid relapsing, why shouldn't we encourage providing a sober environment?

 

[R1776U]

So you are saying RU shouldn't have this dorm? RU has been in the forefront of providing this type of atmosphere. There are only a handful of colleges that do. If it helps someone who has a problem avoid relapsing, why shouldn't we encourage providing a sober environment?

i'm not saying that RU shouldn't try... i'm only stating facts on my personal experiences which i cannot provide links to

 

[Arizona Knight]

unless they drug test everyone every few days .. how do you know they're sober????... NA and AA are just groups that get together for coffee and donuts then get effed up with their buddies after the meeting .. basically a social way of getting in touch with other users and calling it sobriety.. i know this for fact

I can see this being the case for a lot of the court appointed attendees. I can't imagine too many people needing to scope out the local church to find a buddy to get high with. You either have friends to get high with already or you just get high alone because you are on the road.

 

[srru86]

This program is yet another Rutgers trailblazing moment. Way ahead of the relatively few that currently offer such a program.

 

[R1776U]

I can see this being the case for a lot of the court appointed attendees. I can't imagine too many people needing to scope out the local church to find a buddy to get high with. You either have friends to get high with already or you just get high alone because you are on the road.

there are many groups that don't attend .. and i mean many.. that don't attend groups at churches/synogauges(sp?)... mostly community centers/halls.. that's where most groups are held... but the 12 step program crap is full of shit(surrender yourself to a higher power... really?)... even narconon(aka scientology) is full of shit

 

[Knight Shift]

fine... i'll just put it out there then @Plum Street and @Scarlet Engineer

i used to use drugs and have been to many NA meetings in many different towns and the only consistent thing was 90% of people use sobriety and attending meetings just use it as a social network to get fked up... the only way to really get clean is up to you and finding your own inner strength to do it.. also to disconnect yourself from everyone you knew and find new friends that never have ever used.. period... took me a good chunk of my young life to figure that out

Different methods work for different people. I know people who went through AA, and got sober. But I will not dispute your personal account, as someone I know quite well has drug and alcohol issues, and after years of trying to help him, I realize that in his particular case, he is going to need to summon his own will and inner strength to stop. There are a lot of people like this. In his case, he drank/smoked himself to getting throat cancer, and after surgical treatment "cured" his cancer, this may be the wake up call he needed to get clean. Some are lucky enough to not get this severe a kick in the ass to change, and it sounds like you are one of them. Congratulations.

 

[R1776U]

Different methods work for different people. I know people who went through AA, and got sober. But I will not dispute your personal account, as someone I know quite well has drug and alcohol issues, and after years of trying to help him, I realize that in his particular case, he is going to need to summon his own will and inner strength to stop. There are a lot of people like this. In his case, he drank/smoked himself to getting throat cancer, and after surgical treatment "cured" his cancer, this may be the wake up call he needed to get clean. Some are lucky enough to not get this severe a kick in the ass to change, and it sounds like you are one of them. Congratulations.

thank you sir as i still have my day to day shit (and it's been 12 years)... one thing that helped me is to get it in the mind that you hate drugs and drug users.. that can only be done on the personal level

what i do is just push myself everyday to not be a statistic or a claim and NA/AA is good.. i do it for myself and only me... and i keep kicking my own ass by pushing myself harder and harder to be the best i can be

still have my brewski's .. but not an alcoholic [cheers]

EDIT: physical labor always helps... like chainsawing crappy limbs off your trees.. trimming bushes.... hell dig a hole and make a pool if needed.. shit like that