RU Ranked Top 50 Global University
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Not sure I agree with the methodology for Quality of Education and Employment which is ranked based on size of student body. That unduly punishes any institution that seeks to serve more students.
That said, the faculty needs to publish more. Though I wonder if the "reputable journals" favor Ivies and similar faculty over State Us in choosing which papers to publish.
That said, the faculty needs to publish more. Though I wonder if the "reputable journals" favor Ivies and similar faculty over State Us in choosing which papers to publish.
When using a more results oriented evaluation similar to the rating above even USWR ranks Rutgers top 55 internationally of all world universities. It really depends on the methodology selected. This particular USNWR method takes out many of the touchy-feely criteria and the peer assessments.
http://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/rutgers-state-university-186380
Rankings depend on the criteria used and these criteria vary. As someone with a rising senior looking at colleges and as someone who has recruited at many university campuses, I find these rankings (including the highly followed US News) absolutely meaningless.
There are two general issues when looking at which college is "better". First, is the personal one and include three sub-issues - (i) what is the type of school and campus that will allow your child to thrive to the best of their ability, (ii) whether the course offerings match your child's interest and (iii) financial limitations affecting a student's choices.
The second issue is the more empirical one (to the extent it can be empirical) of which college is actually "better" than others you are considering. Since for most people, the end game of going to college is to get the best job you can (or at least have the most options of jobs to choose from) or go to the best grad school you can (subject to financial and other constraints) the only issue to me as to whether one college is better than others under consideration is - (a) which employers recruit on campus or otherwise regularly hire recent grads of the school and (b) how low the top graduate and professional schools will go in terms of grades and boards as relates to grads of that school (ie, the lower the credentials required to get into a top law school, MBA programs Med schools etc. from a particular undergrad school, the better the undergrad school is viewed).
So to me, what makes a school "better" than another school (putting aside the above personal and subjective factors (I), (ii) and (iii), above) only matters in the eyes of those that count - employers and post-undergrad academic programs.
There are two general issues when looking at which college is "better". First, is the personal one and include three sub-issues - (i) what is the type of school and campus that will allow your child to thrive to the best of their ability, (ii) whether the course offerings match your child's interest and (iii) financial limitations affecting a student's choices.
The second issue is the more empirical one (to the extent it can be empirical) of which college is actually "better" than others you are considering. Since for most people, the end game of going to college is to get the best job you can (or at least have the most options of jobs to choose from) or go to the best grad school you can (subject to financial and other constraints) the only issue to me as to whether one college is better than others under consideration is - (a) which employers recruit on campus or otherwise regularly hire recent grads of the school and (b) how low the top graduate and professional schools will go in terms of grades and boards as relates to grads of that school (ie, the lower the credentials required to get into a top law school, MBA programs Med schools etc. from a particular undergrad school, the better the undergrad school is viewed).
So to me, what makes a school "better" than another school (putting aside the above personal and subjective factors (I), (ii) and (iii), above) only matters in the eyes of those that count - employers and post-undergrad academic programs.
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No. RU is an R1 university and no journal would fail to publish quality work from Rutgers faculty for reasons of institutional bias. Peer review is a blind process anwyay.
RU dropped from 33 World/24 US (2014) to 50 World/33 US (2015)...big move, wonder what happened.
http://cwur.org/2014/
http://cwur.org/2015/
http://cwur.org/2014/
http://cwur.org/2015/
You're talking about a score change from 59 to 55. Maybe there was a heavily cited paper last year.
UNC is an extremely reputable university. Don't judge the university or the degree on that scandal.
+1000
Athletes take fake classes everywhere, UNC was just super bad, but for normal students who work hard to go to college it's an amazing school
You can take out the peer assessments and US News ends up pretty much the same. And you could give different weights to each category in this rating and get different results. Those are editorial decisions that sometimes lead to kooky results (without looking, Im guessing there are at least a half a dozen very highly regarded universities that rank worse than RU on this list, that none-the-less, nearly everyone on this board would send their kids to over RU if the money were the same.)
The difference is that US News Best Colleges ranking basically looks at which school gets the kids with choices (i.e. rich kids and smart non-rich kids) and the rankings that RU does well in largely look at research, or at things where RU benefits directly from being near NYC.
Neither really measures what I would consider to be the neutral question for which is the best college - which one is going to take you and make you the most money in the future. But thats a ridiculously hard question to measure - how do you know what someones earning potential was before they went in, and how do you track people once they get out? How do you account for grad school? How do you deal with the fact that some majors (engineering) make alot of money without graduate degrees almost regardless of which school you went to, or the fact that not everyone is meant to be an engineer?
But then again - thats not really what students look at either. If they did, almost no one would pay for private school or would go to four year schools at all. Bang for your buck - 2 years of community college, living at home, and then transfer to the best in state school for your preferred field is almost surely the best deal unless you are a very good student who would really make the most of the kind of professional connections you can make at elite school.
What US News measures is basically the question- basically - which school do people think is the best, in particular people who have choices.
Rankings are ranking,,,,this one is well respected.....I am happy to be ranked well
I cant believe all the people that COMPLAIN about something like this(OK..I lied,,I can believe it here)
I cant believe all the people that COMPLAIN about something like this(OK..I lied,,I can believe it here)
Whos complaining.
Well respected by whom? Certainly not the people who matter - high school students, their parents, and their advisers. To them this is just another in a line of rankings that dont matter. I would add that even US News is probably less important now a days than it was in the late 1990s or early 2000s when it had established a rep, but the internet wasnt the all powerful information beast that it is now.
But obviously RU should publicize any time they are highly ranked in a notable ranking. Give people the information and let them consider whether its useful or not.
This is great news again. We always do well on this ranking as nd it's a great testament to our overall quality. But I do wonder what factors caused us to we drop from 33 to 50 this year
Several people above complained about methodology among other things.
As long as they have rankings...we might as well enjoy it when we are ranked well.
I like this stuff.....always have.
I am also very proud my Cornell was #10
