Rutgers basketball: Is Jamichael Davis the point guard of the future?
With Dylan Harper sidelined, sophomore point guard Jamichael Davis is playing better. His opportunity continues against Illinois.
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Rutgers basketball: Is Jamichael Davis the point guard of the future?
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Keep and continue to develop. We have guards coming in as freshman next year that will need guidance. Would rather have a scoring guard from the portal then have to pursue another point guard.
He has had two really nice games, plus he was great against the press in the UCLA game. But beyond that, we have seen a lot of subpar play from him. It’s a positive sign his recent games, but not ready yet to say he is the RU starting point guard of the future. Let’s see how he finishes out the season in a larger sample size and if he can continue to maintain the improved level of play.
My stat line in the last 11 games is
30 assists to 5 Turnovers
6.6PPG
2.7 APG,
10 of 29 from 3 PT range (34.5%)
19 steals (almost 2 steals a game)
7 of 12 from FT line (58%)
22 minutes a game.
I dont think it matters that JMike is a starter or not, as long as he generates that type of productivity next year, he's then a reliable bench player, at worse.
The question would be strictly on whether he can maintain the trend line of shooting 34% over 30 to 35 games next year, with more shot attempts.
I am fairly certain that Lino Mark can generate 7 to 8PPG, 34% from 3, 70% from the FT line in 20 to 24 minutes a game. Add another guard that also shoots 34% from 3, and RU is much better next year.
Right now, RU has Derkack shooting 26.3% (10 of 38) from 3 and JWill shooting 22.6% (7 of 31) from 3 and in a dozen or so games last year, 5 of 24 from 3 for JWill in 2023-24. That's 12 for 55, which is very tough to overcome (21.8%)....
Keep in mind, Tyson Acuff is shooting 37.5 from 3 this year (23 of 61)....so we don't necessarily need to find some elite 47% 3 point shooter to be effective, just not 22 to 25% range.
What makes Derkack and his skill sets so enticing is he has 3 games (ND, MSU and Ohio State) where he's 8 of 14 from 3....in all the other games, he is 2 of 24 from 3.
It's about being somewhat consistent or reliable. JMike has 11 games where he's trending up, but he also has another 10 to 14 more games this year (depending how things go) to solidify those numbers.
30 assists to 5 Turnovers
6.6PPG
2.7 APG,
10 of 29 from 3 PT range (34.5%)
19 steals (almost 2 steals a game)
7 of 12 from FT line (58%)
22 minutes a game.
I dont think it matters that JMike is a starter or not, as long as he generates that type of productivity next year, he's then a reliable bench player, at worse.
The question would be strictly on whether he can maintain the trend line of shooting 34% over 30 to 35 games next year, with more shot attempts.
I am fairly certain that Lino Mark can generate 7 to 8PPG, 34% from 3, 70% from the FT line in 20 to 24 minutes a game. Add another guard that also shoots 34% from 3, and RU is much better next year.
Right now, RU has Derkack shooting 26.3% (10 of 38) from 3 and JWill shooting 22.6% (7 of 31) from 3 and in a dozen or so games last year, 5 of 24 from 3 for JWill in 2023-24. That's 12 for 55, which is very tough to overcome (21.8%)....
Keep in mind, Tyson Acuff is shooting 37.5 from 3 this year (23 of 61)....so we don't necessarily need to find some elite 47% 3 point shooter to be effective, just not 22 to 25% range.
What makes Derkack and his skill sets so enticing is he has 3 games (ND, MSU and Ohio State) where he's 8 of 14 from 3....in all the other games, he is 2 of 24 from 3.
It's about being somewhat consistent or reliable. JMike has 11 games where he's trending up, but he also has another 10 to 14 more games this year (depending how things go) to solidify those numbers.
That 34% is heavily influenced by going 4-7.
Remove it and its back to 6-22 (27.2%) over the prior 10 games.
Projecting him to maintain at his literal peak seems a little unlikely.
He can play the one, but I think we’d still need a solid scorer at the 2.
That's cool Hawk, but how did J-Mike do?
As a role player off of the bench, he can be a contributor next year.
If he continues to play well, having an upper classmen guard who knows Pike's system and plays hard with energy is valuable. Very nice fit as the backup PG
Majority of the season I was ready to write him off and move on next year.
He’s shown some growth the past few games and if he keeps it up he could be a great backup for 10-15 mins a game.
He’s shown some growth the past few games and if he keeps it up he could be a great backup for 10-15 mins a game.
JWill healthy or not has been the biggest disappointment this year. So may believed he would be the third scoring threat and it never panned out. Don't understad why Pike puts up with dribbling away 22 seconds and we go into desperation mode. ?
No, I think he starts and we find a back-up. With the rest of the year' experience and a year older, and familiarity with the program, we're not finding any better after this year's debacle.
If we are able to cherry-pick the stats, why not remove his worst game?
absolutely,
has he has made positive strides this year, granted, with still some fine tuning needed, need to remember he's a soph, with still 2 to play
add another off season of film and S & C, and the Banks will be grateful for his experience, maturity and leadership
not saying he's going to be All B1G, however a key cog to have for the 25/26 season
has he has made positive strides this year, granted, with still some fine tuning needed, need to remember he's a soph, with still 2 to play
add another off season of film and S & C, and the Banks will be grateful for his experience, maturity and leadership
not saying he's going to be All B1G, however a key cog to have for the 25/26 season
I haven’t been his biggest fan but to ignore what he has done lately isn’t fair. Let’s see what happens the rest of the season but to me he has clearly improved. If he can stay at this level why would you ever get rid of an experienced guard who has already assimilated to our style of play and coaching staff?
Just about to say the same thing. He is always the dark cloud in every silver lining thread.
Nice job lately by JMike. Always fun to watch but now the game is starting to slow down for him offensively.
Or maybe he will. We don't know. Other guys have stepped up year by year in this Conference.
Also I met him at a Football game and he was very friendly and seemed like a really great kid. That still means something in a world devoid of manners and class. He's well above many of our fans in my book, obviously as a player but as a person too.
At some point this season he realized that driving to the basket into 3 guys much taller and creating a turnover wasn't a good idea. Since then, I think he's been solid.
This might be an indicator that he should take more threes per game.
If you look at his history going back to last year, it’s very common for him to take only one 3-point attempt. Coming in cold off the bench makes it slightly harder to make that first one.
On the other hand, his form is good, he squares up, has a nice release and good rotation on the ball, and he does not force it unless the shot clock is running down.
As a PG, if he can alternate making 1 of 4 and 2 of 5 from deep, at 33% he’ll be enough of a threat to keep the defense from sagging back on him, which would open up the floor a bit.
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Your perception is spot on--he is a good guy.
While that is legitimate and fair, the assists to turnover ratio over about a dozen games, is what you need from any lead guard, who is committed or willing to defend.
It's Davis or Derkack or JWill as your options for the rest of this season, as the primary option along side Dylan Harper and Tyson Acuff.
Even with the 4 for 7 influence to 34%, if you remove it and it's 27%, it's still better than JWILL at 22% and Derkack at 26%. And my breakdown on Derkack by removing his 3 best games, is a large enough sample size of 17 other games, where he's 2 for 24 from 3....(8%).....JMike is better than a 26% or 8% shooter from 3.
Sure. Let's do that.
Davis went 0-3 from deep to start the season against Wagner.
Remove his best (4-7) and also his worst (0-3): result is 6-24 from 3 for 25%
Right at his career average coincidentally.
Note: Davis has 7 OTHER games where he took at least 1 3pt shot and made zero.
Lets throw those best/worst games back in.
5 games where Davis made a 3 (10-22 45%) - of those 5 games he made multiple 3s in 3 of them
8 games where Davis missed all this 3s (0-12)
9 games where Davis didn't attempt a 3
Incredibly hit or miss. It's actually a little crazy.
If he makes one, then he makes a couple.
It's either 45% or 0%.
Maybe he just needs to take 3 deep shots early in the game. If 1 goes in then keep shooting.
Dark cloud = analyzing the actual stats and not just default to "it's a Rutgers player so everything must be positive and great".
Other times I was a "dark cloud" after providing statistical evidence:
- RHJ would average 20ppg
- Dean Reiber is a 3pt threat
- Clif is going to be an outside shooting threat
- Hyatt will be an elite 3pt shooter his last year
- JWill and Davis will be great next Dylan Harper
I remember him more as a Hawk not a Net.
As a Net was a little before I remember.
Never got into Pearl Jam.
Not because of dislike but honestly never gave them a chance.
In conference play this year, 20 assists vs 8 turnovers ( 3 of them in the Purdue game)
Anybody fit that description last year?
Asking for a friend? And that guy shot better from three and almost twice as good from the line? Bueller? Bueller?
It's not crazy to miss all your 3's in a game when you take only 1... or even 2
It's actually the expected outcome percentage wise
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