"Rutgers basketball's tip time at Washington is a Big Ten disgrace"

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Rutgers basketball's tip time at Washington is a Big Ten disgrace

Multiple Big Ten basketball coaches have called out the league for its excessive travel and ridiculous scheduling. Rutgers is the latest victim.

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[rtabachk]

Rutgers basketball is a disgrace. Doesn't matter what time they tip-off.

 

[NickRU714]

Remind me how many of those programs voted against Big Ten expansion and against the media deal?

 

[NickRU714]

How is a 7:30pm local tip off a disgrace btw?

 

[Smols]

How is a 7:30pm local tip off a disgrace btw?

My thoughts too. It's a weeknight, how much earlier would they be able to go?

 

[ancienthooper]

How is a 7:30pm local tip off a disgrace btw?

Thanks. Thought I was missing something.

 

[RUChoppin]

My thoughts too. It's a weeknight, how much earlier would they be able to go?

We've only had one weeknight game start later than 7:00 p.m. this year, and it was against Illinois (an hour earlier local time for their fans).

They could have easily started this one at 6:00 or 6:30, as we have done on weekdays several times this year.

 

[Smols]

We've only had one weeknight game start later than 7:00 p.m. this year, and it was against Illinois (an hour earlier local time for their fans).

They could have easily started this one at 6:00 or 6:30, as we have done on weekdays several times this year.

Well if you really want to watch it, you'll have to stay up. If not, DVR it. Even if this game were in prime time you wouldn't get many to watch this team at this point.

 

[RUChoppin]

Well if you really want to watch it, you'll have to stay up. If not, DVR it. Even if this game were in prime time you wouldn't get many to watch this team at this point.

At this point, it'll really depend on how they look in the first half whether I stay up. There's very little chance that I'll watch it on delay Thursday, it will probably just check the box score in the morning.

This was a scheduling flub by the Big Ten, imo.

 

[Smols]

At this point, it'll really depend on how they look in the first half whether I stay up. There's very little chance that I'll watch it on delay Thursday, it will probably just check the box score in the morning.

This was a scheduling flub by the Big Ten, imo.

There are 2 other games at 6:30, 8:30 and our game. All on BTN that's the reason.

 

[dconifer]

It's not a disgrace or a mistake. It's the price of raking in the big bucks as a member of a coast-to-coast conference. Every team will have an occasional tipoff time that isn't optimal for the fans at home, especially the west coast teams. Should Washington fans have to endure a pre-dinner tipoff to accommodate us on the East Coast?

The networks are always going to put the most desirable matchups in prime time for the largest viewing audience. This isn't such a matchup...

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

There's a local TV time of 730 Pacific and there's absolutely nothing wrong with this or the schedule or TV revenue.

If Carino and his school (Seton Hall) had a chance to play UCLA, USC, Gonzaga or even Oregon, Stanford or California and it provided some revenue to help keep Kadary Richmond from leaving for St Johns, Dre Davis from leaving for Ole Miss and kept Tyrese Samuel from leaving for Florida after the 2022-23 season, Seton Hall might have made the NCAAS last year instead of the NIT and Seton Hall wouldn't be the worse program in all of Power 4/5 this year.....there's not a program outside the SEC, B1G ACC or Big 12 that wouldn't immediately sign for this.

Every major program or team has to make the trip every year or every other year in a major conference...and I didn't see any complaints about flying to Vegas for the NIL check back in November around Thanksgiving, because that's what CBB writers and media want....which is more coverage in November when football is in full swing.

Just put some coffee on and prepare the post game stuff at 1AM to 2AM....I'm sure these media folks will cash the checks or they can run down and cover Rider or Monmouth....see how many clicks that generates instead.....

 

[fatsam98]

Did anyone actually read the article? He's saying non-football sports should be more regionalized. That Rutgers and Washington should never be playing basketball against each other.

Not that a local tipoff time of 7:30 is ridiculous.

Not sure how anyone can argue against that.

 

[RUBubba]

There are 6 teams in the Eastern Time zone. Scheduling should NOT be that hard.

RU has played 6:00 games at home, so why can't the four teams in the PCT, when playing the teams here have 6:00 tip offs? 9:00 is much more manageable. When those four teams are playing in the EST, its a 9:00 tip off our time when in the middle of the week.

Considering these games are joined up with a second game, one mid week and one on the weekend, its really shouldn't be a huge difficulty.

 

[PiscatawayMike]

Not as bad as Jan 13, 1992. Midnight (eastern time) tip-off vs. Utah State in Logan, UT.

The game was a part of ESPN's legendary Big Monday lineup that night.

I know you old-timers remember! It was a big game for RU back then. As most are well aware, most games were untelevised in our Atlantic 10 days.

 

[ru66]

Hope they play well, I'll enjoy watching after midnight-- times no big deal-- how they'll play us more important

 

[letitrip2]

A non-story. Perfectly appropriate tip off time.

 

[fatsam98]

There are 6 teams in the Eastern Time zone. Scheduling should NOT be that hard.

RU has played 6:00 games at home, so why can't the four teams in the PCT, when playing the teams here have 6:00 tip offs? 9:00 is much more manageable. When those four teams are playing in the EST, its a 9:00 tip off our time when in the middle of the week.

Considering these games are joined up with a second game, one mid week and one on the weekend, its really shouldn't be a huge difficulty.

It's for TV.

BTN gets three games in one night, 6:30/8:30/10:30.

It's all about content. Fans that have to get to a 6:30 tip in NJ rush hour be damned. Fans having to stay up past midnight to watch a game be damned. All about the greed at the top.

 

[TRU2RU]

Carino is mad that he has to stay up past his bedtime

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

The disgrace is a pacific time zone team in the B1G. Quite frankly it is a disgrace that we have to be in B1G and conferences should be by geography to keep traveling time and costs down.

Would be nice to put the genie back in the bottle and do this all over again.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

It is unbelievable that the women's volleyball team has to travel to the West Coast and play Oregon and Washington.

6-25 team probably had 7 or 8 airplane rides and 12-15 nights in a hotel.

Seriously

Shouldnt matter what the record was, not sure I felt the need to add.

 

[ScarletKid2008]

When (hopefully) the television revenue gets relegated to the ncaa level or whatever governing body is called of a new semi pro league of 48-60 “schools” … then hopefully we can go back to sensible local divisions rooted in history and a chance for rivalries.

 

[Mr Magoo]

Not as bad as Jan 13, 1992. Midnight (eastern time) tip-off vs. Utah State in Logan, UT.

The game was a part of ESPN's legendary Big Monday lineup that night.

I know you old-timers remember! It was a big game for RU back then. As most are well aware, most games were untelevised in our Atlantic 10 days.

I remember it like it was yesterday. I had to give a work presentation at 9:00 AM the next morning and stayed up for the disappointment.

 

[G- RUnit]

I remember Bob W saying we will play anybody, anywhere, any time…

Needed tv time.

Big East really killed us

 

[NickRU714]

We've only had one weeknight game start later than 7:00 p.m. this year, and it was against Illinois (an hour earlier local time for their fans).

They could have easily started this one at 6:00 or 6:30, as we have done on weekdays several times this year.

Actually they couldn't.
There is a game at 6:30pm and 8:30pm on BTN before our game.

Imagine this place if we had weekday game start at 3pm?
Rutgers needs to revamp "Time Zones 101"course

Now....if the game was on Peacock....

 

[RUChoppin]

Actually they couldn't.
There is a game at 6:30pm and 8:30pm on BTN before our game.

Imagine this place if we had weekday game start at 3pm?
Rutgers needs to revamp "Time Zones 101"course

Now....if the game was on Peacock....

They make the schedules before the season. There really isn't a need to have an east coast team play at 10:30 pm or a West Coast team play at 9:00 am. This game didn't need to be on this day at all.

 

[RutgersClassof2004]

I like the late tip, just not the product

 

[PiscatawayMike]

I remember Bob W saying we will play anybody, anywhere, any time…

Needed tv time.

Big East really killed us

It's the reason Tom Young left. Every recruit wanted to know how often they would be on TV. Young always had to reply, "Not enough."

I remember Young saying the Sun Belt Conference's TV package was outstanding in comparison to the Atlantic 10.

 

[NickRU714]

They make the schedules before the season. There really isn't a need to have an east coast team play at 10:30 pm or a West Coast team play at 9:00 am. This game didn't need to be on this day at all.

Eh. The team has been on the West Coast since Friday.
Not sure how playing at 7:30pm is a problem for the team.
It's not like the game actually starts at 10:30pm.
It'll be like every other game.

 

[Shelby65]

Not as bad as Jan 13, 1992. Midnight (eastern time) tip-off vs. Utah State in Logan, UT.

The game was a part of ESPN's legendary Big Monday lineup that night.

I know you old-timers remember! It was a big game for RU back then. As most are well aware, most games were untelevised in our Atlantic 10 days.

PMike ain’t wrong.

 

[RUChoppin]

Eh. The team has been on the West Coast since Friday.
Not sure how playing at 7:30pm is a problem for the team.
It's not like the game actually starts at 10:30pm.
It'll be like every other game.

Not about the team, but the fans. Tip time really has no impact on the players.

 

[ScarletDave]

A Wednesday night midnight game with the two worst teams in the league. Will be a throwback to the Big East days playing depaul on SNY at 9pm on a Wednesday night in february. What flavor bowl of cereal is everyone having?

 

[NickRU714]

Not about the team, but the fans. Tip time really has no impact on the players.

Which fans?
Doesn't everyone complain about making it to 6pm tip offs after work?
Seems 7:30pm is just about ideal.

Did you mean away fans?
If Rutgers was hosting Washington, a 7:30pm EST tip off would literally be during the work day for Washington fans. Earlier start time would be even worse.
Should we accommodate them and start the game at 9:30pm or later EST?

 

[RUChoppin]

Which fans?
Doesn't everyone complain about making it to 6pm tip offs after work?
Seems 7:30pm is just about ideal.

Did you mean away fans?
If Rutgers was hosting Washington, a 7:30pm EST tip off would literally be during the work day for Washington fans. Earlier start time would be even worse.
Should we accommodate them and start the game at 9:30pm or later EST?

BTN puts games on television - the tip times are based on television, not on attendance.

Rutgers' home weekday tip times have mostly been in the 6-7pm range for conference games.
6:00 Thu - Purdue (5:00)
6:30 Wed - Iowa (5:30)
6:30 Mon - UCLA (3:30 - very tough for UCLA fans, should have been the 8:30 game, imo)
7:00 Mon - Wisconsin (6:00)
7:00 Tue - Penn St (7:00)
8:30 Wed - Illinois (7:30)

Looking at all the west coast teams and their weekday conference games, it looks like there were 22 games, and 4 of them started at 10:30 for the away fans (Michigan x2, Ohio State x1, Rutgers x1).

Michigan fans definitely got the short end of this one. If it's truly unavoidable (I still have my doubts), hopefully the league can rotate those games so that the impact is spread around roughly equally over a several-years stretch.

Washington's home weekday tip times for conference games (local time for away fans in parentheses):
6:30 Wed - Purdue (9:30)
6:30 Thu - Maryland (9:30)
7:30 Wed - Rutgers (10:30)
7:30 Wed - Nebraska (9:30)
8:00 Fri - UCLA (8:00)

UCLA's home weekday tip times for conference games:
6:00 Fri - Iowa (8:00)
6:30 Tue - Wisconsin (8:30)
7:00 Tue - Michigan St (10:00)
7:30 Tue - Washington (7:30)
7:30 Thu - Oregon (7:30)
7:30 Tue - Minnesota (9:30)
7:30 Tue - Michigan (10:30)

USC's home weekday tip times for conference games:
6:00 Tue - Penn St (9:00)
7:00 Mon - UCLA (7:00)
7:30 Wed - Oregon (7:30)
7:30 Tue - Iowa (9:30)
7:30 Wed - Ohio St (10:30)
7:30 Wed - Michigan (10:30)

Oregon's home weekday tip times for conference games:
6:00 Tue - Indiana (9:00)
7:00 Thu - Illinois (9:00)
8:00 Tue - Washington (8:00)
8:00 Tue - Northwestern (10:00)

 

[BigEastPhil]

Tip time doesn’t matter.

There will be very few eyeballs 👀 watching this game except for the diehards.

Wonder if Don McLean - of UCLA and not the American Pie himself - will be the color analyst for this game ?

 

[HeavenUniv.]

It's the reason Tom Young left. Every recruit wanted to know how often they would be on TV. Young always had to reply, "Not enough."

I remember Young saying the Sun Belt Conference's TV package was outstanding in comparison to the Atlantic 10.

Why on Earth is Saint Louis still in the Atlantic Ten? It has to cost a ton being half way across the country and sending all your sports teams to Rhode Island, Virginia, Washington, DC, and of course almost North Pole. Just play somewhat local schools in the Missouri Valley, Horizon, etc.

 

[rutgersal]

Did anyone actually read the article? He's saying non-football sports should be more regionalized. That Rutgers and Washington should never be playing basketball against each other.

Not that a local tipoff time of 7:30 is ridiculous.

Not sure how anyone can argue against that.

That’s not practical under the current setup because they are very few west coast teams

 

[fatsam98]

That’s not practical under the current setup because they are very few west coast teams

He's saying keep football in the Big Ten, but create regionalized conferences for the other sports (e.g., the old big east)

I agree with him 100%

 

[RocktheRac]

Not as bad as Jan 13, 1992. Midnight (eastern time) tip-off vs. Utah State in Logan, UT.

The game was a part of ESPN's legendary Big Monday lineup that night.

I know you old-timers remember! It was a big game for RU back then. As most are well aware, most games were untelevised in our Atlantic 10 days.

I remember the game RU played in Hawaii I think. Gary Waters was sick and I think the game came on radio at 1 or 2 am.

 

[bethlehemfan]

Carino is mad that he has to stay up past his bedtime

I would be too haha