Rutgers class is ranked 8th in the B1G, 35th nationally per Rivals & Scout.

[ruready4somefootball]

I find this pretty amazing considering all the bad press we have gotten. Hopefully this class holds together despite what could be a very bad regular season, and possible off season filled with major changes. As far as whether Coach Flood stays or goes, and the timing of that decision,I have no idea which is best. Too early, and there is plenty of time for recruits to jump ship. Too late,I don't know, is there a too late? I've said before, I don't see Rutgers ever getting past Ohio St, Michigan St. Michigan, Wisconsin, Penn St. and Nebraska in the recruiting wars. Too much tradition, too much loyal fan bases,too much of a head start in trying to catch up, or keep up in the facilities war. We are 8th, and 7th or 6th should be doable every now and then. That means a HC who can out coach opponents is a must, and who can excite recruits to come here when there was no chance before.

 

[newell138]

Looks like you jinxed us, we have our first de-commit

 

[Scarlet Shack]

Brace for impact

 

[derleider]

I find this pretty amazing considering all the bad press we have gotten. Hopefully this class holds together despite what could be a very bad regular season, and possible off season filled with major changes. As far as whether Coach Flood stays or goes, and the timing of that decision,I have no idea which is best. Too early, and there is plenty of time for recruits to jump ship. Too late,I don't know, is there a too late? I've said before, I don't see Rutgers ever getting past Ohio St, Michigan St. Michigan, Wisconsin, Penn St. and Nebraska in the recruiting wars. Too much tradition, too much loyal fan bases,too much of a head start in trying to catch up, or keep up in the facilities war. We are 8th, and 7th or 6th should be doable every now and then. That means a HC who can out coach opponents is a must, and who can excite recruits to come here when there was no chance before.

This class would have been as good as if not better than MSU, Wisconsin, and Nebraska classes of the recent past, and this class isnt as good as we can do.

Ill concede that OSU, Michigan, and PSU will likely outrecruit us in most years. But this shouldnt be our peak class, it should be an average class for a Big Ten team in a top 10 recruiting state.

We'll see when Flood is gone that the problem was first and foremost Flood.

 

[Panthergrowl13]

The ranking in February is the only one that counts.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

 

[RUfan121]

Waaa wa waaaaaaaa

 

[lighty]

"This class would have been as good as if not better than MSU, Wisconsin, and Nebraska classes of the recent past, and this class isnt as good as we can do."

I agree with Derleider.

When Schiano had us going head to head with places like Ohio State and reeling in guys like Anthony Davis, we were in a conference that few cared about. Nobody can convince me that recruiting in the Big Ten shouldn't HELP BOOST our recruiting. IMO, it will always be difficult to truly lock down all of the players in New Jersey that we want since many people grow up here with the country looking down on NJ so they want to see what else is out there; however, the Big Ten should help us greatly with getting the players we want and with expanding the Rutgers footprint from the tri-state area and parts of Florida to across the country (another reason I wish Rettig got a shot at playing time).

Flood is really not a great example of how our recruiting can be in the Big Ten. He may or may not be a good gameday coach (he's had his moments both ways imo) but he's never shown me to be a great salesperson. If we had a guy that was an incredible recruiter, I don't see why regular Top 25 classes couldn't be the norm. I mean, didn't Ron Zook bring top 25 like classes to Illinois? Good recruiters bring in top talent wherever they go.

 

[brgossRU90]

Way too soon to tell. Since we are currently not one of the programs talented de-commits jump towards odds are the ranking will only go down as we get closer to signing day.

 

[Yeah Baby]

"This class would have been as good as if not better than MSU, Wisconsin, and Nebraska classes of the recent past, and this class isnt as good as we can do."

I agree with Derleider.

When Schiano had us going head to head with places like Ohio State and reeling in guys like Anthony Davis, we were in a conference that few cared about. Nobody can convince me that recruiting in the Big Ten shouldn't HELP BOOST our recruiting. IMO, it will always be difficult to truly lock down all of the players in New Jersey that we want since many people grow up here with the country looking down on NJ so they want to see what else is out there; however, the Big Ten should help us greatly with getting the players we want and with expanding the Rutgers footprint from the tri-state area and parts of Florida to across the country (another reason I wish Rettig got a shot at playing time).

Flood is really not a great example of how our recruiting can be in the Big Ten. He may or may not be a good gameday coach (he's had his moments both ways imo) but he's never shown me to be a great salesperson. If we had a guy that was an incredible recruiter, I don't see why regular Top 25 classes couldn't be the norm. I mean, didn't Ron Zook bring top 25 like classes to Illinois? Good recruiters bring in top talent wherever they go.

You sure you want to agree with someone who takes a positive thread and turns it negative?

I mean I agree the opportunity is there to improve on this but if being in the BIG means we should be in the Top 10 then why does MSU still struggle in recruiting rankings? I mean they are in the Top 5 2 years in a row. What about Northwestern in Chicago, Illinois and Indiana? Minnesota? Why are they not all hauling in Top 10 recruiting rankings after so many years in the BIG?

Answer that and then maybe I will consider to give you and Mr Congeniality my ear. Until then, you are dismissed. Just kidding.

 

[rutgersdave]

You sure you want to agree with someone who takes a positive thread and turns it negative?

I mean I agree the opportunity is there to improve on this but if being in the BIG means we should be in the Top 10 then why does MSU still struggle in recruiting rankings? I mean they are in the Top 5 2 years in a row. What about Northwestern in Chicago, Illinois and Indiana? Minnesota? Why are they not all hauling in Top 10 recruiting rankings after so many years in the BIG?

Answer that and then maybe I will consider to give you and Mr Congeniality my ear. Until then, you are dismissed. Just kidding.

MSU 2016 recruiting class is ranked 11th in the nation with 7 4 stars almost half of the class. MSU 2015 recruiting class is 22th in the nation with 7 4 stars. MSU 2014 class is 22th with 1 5 star and 6 4 stars.

Most of their starters I'll be 4 stars recruits.

 

[Caliknight]

B1G recruiting at the top end is going through the stratosphere.

 

[bitnez]

"This class would have been as good as if not better than MSU, Wisconsin, and Nebraska classes of the recent past, and this class isnt as good as we can do."

I agree with Derleider.

When Schiano had us going head to head with places like Ohio State and reeling in guys like Anthony Davis, we were in a conference that few cared about. Nobody can convince me that recruiting in the Big Ten shouldn't HELP BOOST our recruiting. IMO, it will always be difficult to truly lock down all of the players in New Jersey that we want since many people grow up here with the country looking down on NJ so they want to see what else is out there; however, the Big Ten should help us greatly with getting the players we want and with expanding the Rutgers footprint from the tri-state area and parts of Florida to across the country (another reason I wish Rettig got a shot at playing time).

Flood is really not a great example of how our recruiting can be in the Big Ten. He may or may not be a good gameday coach (he's had his moments both ways imo) but he's never shown me to be a great salesperson. If we had a guy that was an incredible recruiter, I don't see why regular Top 25 classes couldn't be the norm. I mean, didn't Ron Zook bring top 25 like classes to Illinois? Good recruiters bring in top talent wherever they go.

Speaking of Ron Zook they mentioned last night that he's now the special teams coach for the Packers. He may have been a mess as HC but he's a great recruiter and would be great as an assistant HC.

 

[rutgersdave]

We are now eleven in recruiting in the Big Ten out of 14 teams and 41th nationally.

 

[S.B. Crumb]

Whoever is at RU is not going to out-recruit the top B1G teams , so they better know how to f-ing coach them up big time.

 

[yesrutgers01]

I think in a few years, we could be up there with those guys...we need to do more on the field though.
And to go back in time...during the mid/late 2000's...we did start to out recruit PSU or at the very least, stay on par. We also were not much different then MSU or Wisconsin
But...we were out recruited by Pitt, WVU and often times, L'Ville. So, what exactly does that say? And let's be real about PSU, sans scandal, if they had anyone recruiting before November in those years, they would have cleaned outNJ then...

 

[bac2therac]

Whoever is at RU is not going to out-recruit the top B1G teams , so they better know how to f-ing coach them up big time.

this is the truth. Look at the entire coaching staff now and can anyone realistically say this is the dynamic staff that is going to overcome it

 

[Upstream]

I can't really get excited about being ranked 8 of 14 B1G teams and 35 of 65 P5 teams.

Being slightly below average suggests that we will struggle to win 6 or 7 games each season.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

We are now eleven in recruiting in the Big Ten out of 14 teams and 41th nationally.

47th on 247 Sports. Closer to Flood'

Whoever is at RU is not going to out-recruit the top B1G teams , so they better know how to f-ing coach them up big time.

No, but we CAN out-recruit Minny, NW, Mary, and even Nebraska and Wisconsin, with a cosch who is a "closer."

Sitting 47th now Per 247 Sports.

 

[RCTrooper]

We need to flush the current coaching staff because this team has seen its brand destroyed in one month. What parent of a 4 star player who is a good kid will buy the family mantra after all the arrests and the focus on academics when Flood is actively trying to work around academic requirements?

You need a new coach with a new spin on RU because the current spin is ruined. Can you imagine what the other recruiting staffs are saying about RU right now?

 

[srru86]

Record
College football: Rutgers getting benefit of doubt

 

[AreYouNUTS]

We need to flush the current coaching staff because this team has seen its brand destroyed in one month. What parent of a 4 star player who is a good kid will buy the family mantra after all the arrests and the focus on academics when Flood is actively trying to work around academic requirements?

You need a new coach with a new spin on RU because the current spin is ruined. Can you imagine what the other recruiting staffs are saying about RU right now?

Not-for-nothing but they pretty much weren't "buying" prior to the past month. Kyle Flood has recruited and signed EXACTLY 2 - TWO - 4-star high school athletes in his 3 classes thus far (2013-2015). Man that's scary.

 

[realhoops2]

"This class would have been as good as if not better than MSU, Wisconsin, and Nebraska classes of the recent past, and this class isnt as good as we can do."

I agree with Derleider.

When Schiano had us going head to head with places like Ohio State and reeling in guys like Anthony Davis, we were in a conference that few cared about. Nobody can convince me that recruiting in the Big Ten shouldn't HELP BOOST our recruiting. IMO, it will always be difficult to truly lock down all of the players in New Jersey that we want since many people grow up here with the country looking down on NJ so they want to see what else is out there; however, the Big Ten should help us greatly with getting the players we want and with expanding the Rutgers footprint from the tri-state area and parts of Florida to across the country (another reason I wish Rettig got a shot at playing time).

Flood is really not a great example of how our recruiting can be in the Big Ten. He may or may not be a good gameday coach (he's had his moments both ways imo) but he's never shown me to be a great salesperson. If we had a guy that was an incredible recruiter, I don't see why regular Top 25 classes couldn't be the norm. I mean, didn't Ron Zook bring top 25 like classes to Illinois? Good recruiters bring in top talent wherever they go.

While I don't disagree with many of your points I must say that you are greatly overstating RU recruiting under Schiano. The only guy they ever reeled in like Anthony Davis is Anthony Davis! Most if not all of Schiano's (and Flood's) recruits were significantly below Davis's 5 stars. He was one of the top high school offensive lineman in the country that just happened to be from Piscataway. At this point I would say he recruitment was an anomaly not necessarily a sign of what could be.

 

[realhoops2]

"This class would have been as good as if not better than MSU, Wisconsin, and Nebraska classes of the recent past, and this class isnt as good as we can do."

I agree with Derleider.

When Schiano had us going head to head with places like Ohio State and reeling in guys like Anthony Davis, we were in a conference that few cared about. Nobody can convince me that recruiting in the Big Ten shouldn't HELP BOOST our recruiting. IMO, it will always be difficult to truly lock down all of the players in New Jersey that we want since many people grow up here with the country looking down on NJ so they want to see what else is out there; however, the Big Ten should help us greatly with getting the players we want and with expanding the Rutgers footprint from the tri-state area and parts of Florida to across the country (another reason I wish Rettig got a shot at playing time).

Flood is really not a great example of how our recruiting can be in the Big Ten. He may or may not be a good gameday coach (he's had his moments both ways imo) but he's never shown me to be a great salesperson. If we had a guy that was an incredible recruiter, I don't see why regular Top 25 classes couldn't be the norm. I mean, didn't Ron Zook bring top 25 like classes to Illinois? Good recruiters bring in top talent wherever they go.

While I don't disagree with many of your points I must say that you are greatly overstating RU recruiting under Schiano. The only guy they ever reeled in like Anthony Davis is Anthony Davis! Most if not all of Schiano's (and Flood's) recruits were significantly below Davis's 5 stars. He was one of the top high school offensive lineman in the country that just happened to be from Piscataway. At this point I would say he recruitment was an anomaly not necessarily a sign of what could be.

 

[realhoops2]

"This class would have been as good as if not better than MSU, Wisconsin, and Nebraska classes of the recent past, and this class isnt as good as we can do."

I agree with Derleider.

When Schiano had us going head to head with places like Ohio State and reeling in guys like Anthony Davis, we were in a conference that few cared about. Nobody can convince me that recruiting in the Big Ten shouldn't HELP BOOST our recruiting. IMO, it will always be difficult to truly lock down all of the players in New Jersey that we want since many people grow up here with the country looking down on NJ so they want to see what else is out there; however, the Big Ten should help us greatly with getting the players we want and with expanding the Rutgers footprint from the tri-state area and parts of Florida to across the country (another reason I wish Rettig got a shot at playing time).

Flood is really not a great example of how our recruiting can be in the Big Ten. He may or may not be a good gameday coach (he's had his moments both ways imo) but he's never shown me to be a great salesperson. If we had a guy that was an incredible recruiter, I don't see why regular Top 25 classes couldn't be the norm. I mean, didn't Ron Zook bring top 25 like classes to Illinois? Good recruiters bring in top talent wherever they go.

While I don't disagree with many of your points I must say that you are greatly overstating RU recruiting under Schiano. The only guy they ever reeled in like Anthony Davis is Anthony Davis! Most if not all of Schiano's (and Flood's) recruits were significantly below Davis's 5 stars. He was one of the top high school offensive lineman in the country that just happened to be from Piscataway. At this point I would say he recruitment was an anomaly not necessarily a sign of what could be.

 

[RUich]

Like most conferences, you have your top programs and the bottom feeders. We are pretty much with the bottom feeders and that will not get us anywhere near being a respected program in this conference.
For years, we blamed our conference affiliations with holding us back in recruiting. When we knew we were going to the BIG, a lot of fans immediately assumed that our recruiting would just jump up with what this offered. Well, so far it isn't all that different from what we had become used to seeing.
We still see way too many of NJ's top kids go elsewhere. I really can't put this all on Flood as there is little real evidence that anyone else, including Schiano, did all that much better. Going to Rutgers is still not all that cool for top players.
Simply put, you have to get top recruits first and then have the good coaching to make them really a team. Michigan looks like a prime example of just getting the correct coaching staff in place and :boom:! They always had good recruiting classes, just less than great coaching staffs to win.
Right now, we do not have anywhere near the high level of players for a top coach to just start winning with. I see a pretty big building plan ahead for whomever will be coaching here.