You are way overreacting to one game. Shooting jump shots will not be the team's strength, and they will have bad nights, but think about it. Instead of 1-16 if they were 5-16 (mediocre percentage) it is an even score. Calm down.
Scrimmages
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Anyone who was drinking the Kool-Aid after the rumored "win" over Monmouth in our first scrimmage should come back down to earth after this result. It's only a srimmage, so it's not the "win" or "loss" that matters. However, the lack of 3 point shooting and the inability to defend the 3 were huge Achilles heels for this team last year that will not automatically disappear with a new staff and a handful of new players.
The staff better go out and hire the best shooting coaches in the world to come and teach these guys something. Honestly it would be worth whatever the school has to pay
We are going to be a .500 team.
We won't ever go 1-16 again. We are not a good shooting team but I promise you we will be better than 7% as a team for the season. I'm not sure we'll even shoot 16 threes in a game.
On a side note, why did Williams only play 8 minutes?
We won't ever go 1-16 again. We are not a good shooting team but I promise you we will be better than 7% as a team for the season. I'm not sure we'll even shoot 16 threes in a game.
On a side note, why did Williams only play 8 minutes?
Lots to be happy about in that stat sheet
Most importantly, Deshawn Freeman. Secondly, not a ton of turn overs. I do not think we will become a great shooting team out of nowhere. We will do better from three this year, but it will not be astronomical.
Big picture thinking helps so much.
Most importantly, Deshawn Freeman. Secondly, not a ton of turn overs. I do not think we will become a great shooting team out of nowhere. We will do better from three this year, but it will not be astronomical.
Big picture thinking helps so much.
I do not think that is the case. Our team will be okay enough to keep teams honest. Four of our players can shoot 10 threes and hit 8 of them. Can they do it guarded?Too early to know.
I will say-there is a shooting cancer that is going around AAU,D1, and NBA. Shooting and coming down on one foot. I have seen Sanders,Johnson, and Williams do a lot of it. Unbalanced, shots wont hit.
It will be better during the season, but I do not expect anything crazy.
We have to change our defense to counter the big shooting teams.
This is NOT the same Yale team that hung with Duke last NCAA Tourney. They lost 4 senior starters from last year's team. They have Mason and a bunch of promising freshman and not much else.
What are you talking about. We don't have 4 players that can shoot 8 for 10 from the free throw line.
You do not think Thiam, Johnson, Sanders, Sa could hit 7/10 from the 3 pt line in practice unguarded?
No.
Nigel Johnson shot 67.7% from the free throw line at Kansas State so I doubt he shoots higher from 3 unguarded.
Candido Sa shot 69.9% from the free throw line last year in JC.
Don't know Issa's stats from HS last year.
How can you even make this statement without seeing the team on the court once?
It's a scrimmage! Coaches don't necessarily care about the score, often they don't play to win, the play to learn things about their teams. Stop drawing conclusions about the team based on the outcome. This team needs to learn how to play together and that takes time.
So 3/5 from free throw line? 60%. Sa made 4-4 in scrimmage.
Whatever it is, I think they will shoot better this year than last year. It was just a scrimmage.
He played 16 minutes. 1 pt, 1 reb, 1 TO, no assists, blocks or fouls. Kind of invisible, probably very tentative.
It would be quite impressive if we did, considering there were 11 total players in the Big Ten conference that shot over 80% from the free throw line last year.
I agree. That's why when a poster above said four guys could shoot 80% from 3 unguarded, I pointed out they can't do that from the free throw line, much less than 3pt line.
Fair enough. Just sounded like you a were implying that good shooting teams have multiple guys shooting over 80% from ft line. 2 guys, at most. I actually think sanders and Williams have a chance to do that this year. Williams was over 79% last year
People judging the team from the 2nd time practicing against another team... still getting used to the coaches and all of their "new" teammates. Step away from the keyboard and have some perspective.
sorry the baseline is going to be 9-4/3-15...anything better than 12-19 is going to be considered a very very good coaching job by Pikiell
fans here need a reality check...i didnt comment too much after the Monmouth scrimmage because I saw the usual suspects overdosed on kool aid...its going to be tough this year. RU does not exist in a vacuum, it is still the least talented school in the league
Understatement of the year to suggest fans needing a "reality check."
If you are a Rutgers fan you would sign for that 9-4/3-15 RIGHT NOW!!! Assuming a few of the 15 losses were competitive as well.
If you are a Rutgers fan you would sign for that 9-4/3-15 RIGHT NOW!!! Assuming a few of the 15 losses were competitive as well.
A few things from the scrimmage box score...
- Doubt we are going to shoot that poorly most nights, if ever that poorly again. It's encouraging that we found 64 points while hitting just one from beyond the arc. Have to attribute that to Corey and DeShawn finding some scoring around the rim.
- 11 TOs. That's pretty good, and you have to assume that if we can keep it around that number this season, we will have more opportunities to win than not.
- Out-rebounded Yale 44-37, including 23-7 on the offensive glass!
- Yale shot the ball very well -- 26-54, 8-22 from deep, 17-19 from the line. We did not. Could have been an off day.
- My only question/concern is to why Mike Williams played only 9 minutes. He's got the most B1G experience on the roster, hustles, defends, and is still one of our top-3 long-range shooters.
- We're still 0-0 and have a lot of reasons to be excited.
I just do not see a path to 15 wins. In my opinion here is the best case scenario, with some reality thrown in. OCC, we can beat Molloy, Drexel, Niagara, North Texas, Hartford, Morgan State, Central Connecticut, Stoney Brook, FDU and Fordham. That is 10 wins. ( I also think it is very possible we loss to SB, Fordham and Niagara). But, lets say we come out of OCC with 10 wins. I can not find more than 2-3 BIG wins. So for me, our best case is 12-13 wins. We are more likely to win 9-10 than we are to get up to 15 wins.
How about overreacting to no games. The usual off-season echo chamber on this board has been in full force over the last couple of months. Talk, talk, talk about stuff and suddenly RU's greatly improved and there's a some sort of buzz no one else hears, and freshman will be shooting the lights out, transfers who were "the best player on the practice floor" last year will tear it up, big guys are in better shape and therefore poised for huge performance improvements, marginal players transferring for a fifth year will make big differences, injured players who weren't all that impressive before they were injured will have a year of development, emotional, physical, or whatever, that will make them much better, and so on and so on.
Every off season, always the same.
It'll be a funny turn of events this season if guys like Bac and me are talking others off the ledge about Pikiell once the B1G season starts and the losses mount. Buckle up. If Pickiell is to be successful, it will be a hard slog, not a quick turnaround via vast off-season improvements that can only be deduced by a small group of fans on a message board.
Last years team won 7 games with one of the worst runs of injuries I have ever seen. So if we stay healthy and we have better depth. Our key players are all a year older. We added some nice pieces we have better coaching and a weaker schedule and you can't envision more than two or three more wins than last season?
I find it so funny that when we were losing last year and we clearly outmatched due to the injuries people were killing Eddie and saying he should be doing better. Now we have better players and people are expecting the same results when we have better coaching, and a weaker schedule. 10 wins oout of conference and 5 wins in conference should be the expectation.
I find it so funny that when we were losing last year and we clearly outmatched due to the injuries people were killing Eddie and saying he should be doing better. Now we have better players and people are expecting the same results when we have better coaching, and a weaker schedule. 10 wins oout of conference and 5 wins in conference should be the expectation.
Seriously who pissed in your cornflakes this morning. I guess you are so jaded from all the years of losing that no matter what its worse case scenario. Its a fact that one of your not that impressive players who was injured last year was a four star in Rivals. Its a fact that the other was a four star in ESPN (Rivals basically doesn't rate overseas players). Its a fact that the third highest scoring returning B1G player is on this team. I can go on but I am sure you will tell me how our four stars don't count but how every other teams four stars are special.
