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Shots per 40 minutes conference play and effective FG%

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Greene Rice FIG

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Eugene 15.1 42.3%
Mathis 14.6 42.7%
Baker 13.7 41.0%
Harper 11.9 52.5%
Kiss 11.8 46.0%
Caleb 11.1 52.5%
Myles 9.5 56.5%
Shaqc 8.2 54.6%

What happens to effective FG% as shot distribution changes? That is the 2nd most important thing in my eyes (defense #1)

As a whole we were 46.8%...48% is middle of the pack so we aren't far away.
 
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While I don't dismiss Effective Fg% as a meaningful stat I believe it is much less meaningful in the college game than the NBA game. My mantra remains the rarest skill at the college level is the ability to put the ball in the basket. I do not believe it to be a coincidence our two best seasons in the past twenty years happened to feature our best offensive player(s) from the past 20 years.
 
RutgHoops said:
While I don't dismiss Effective Fg% as a meaningful stat I believe it is much less meaningful in the college game than the NBA game. My mantra remains the rarest skill at the college level is the ability to put the ball in the basket. I do not believe it to be a coincidence our two best seasons in the past twenty years happened to feature our best offensive player(s) from the past 20 years.
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This post seems to be contradictory? Putting the ball in the basket is what effective FG% measures.
 
Mr. Douby
FR 53.3% EFF FG
SO 47.4%
JR 55.6%

Guess which year the team disappointed in?

JR numbers are just sick....he wasn't taking Issa shots. Tons of Ricky Dadika like shots
 
What is "effective FG%" and how does it differ from ACTUAL FG%?
 
Greene Rice FIG said:
Mr. Douby
FR 53.3% EFF FG
SO 47.4%
JR 55.6%

Guess which year the team disappointed in?

JR numbers are just sick....he wasn't taking Issa shots. Tons of Ricky Dadika like shots
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Thanks. Would not have thought his Frosh efg% was that good.
 
kcg88 said:
This post seems to be contradictory? Putting the ball in the basket is what effective FG% measures.
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No it is not contradictory. James Palmer (for example, a could do dozens more) had an efg% at Nebraska last season under 43%. He was a very good college basketball player because he averaged almost 20 points per game. efg% isn't as good a measure in CBB as it is in the NBA
 
RutgHoops said:
Thanks. Would not have thought his Frosh efg% was that good.
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Quincy shot 51.5% from 2 his junior year. 40.1% from 3. 4.3RPG

I was way too critical of his defense. You can't do that much on the offensive end and still be a good defender.....unless you are Michael Jordan
 
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RutgHoops said:
No it is not contradictory. James Palmer (for example, a could do dozens more) had an efg% at Nebraska last season under 43%. He was a very good college basketball player because he averaged almost 20 points per game. efg% isn't as good a measure in CBB as it is in the NBA
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His conference eff fg% was 38.2% with a usage of 31.2%....not OK in my book....especially when you have Johnny Trueblood on your team.
 
Greene Rice FIG said:
Quincy shot 51.5% from 2 his junior year. 40.1% from 3. 4.3RPG

I was way too critical of his defense. You can't do that much on the offensive end and still be a good defender.....unless you are Michael Jordan
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Douby was exerting sooooo much energy on offense. He had quick hands and got steals but you just can't give that much effort on offense essentially every play and then give maximal effort on defense too. Really wish he had more talent around him but man he was so fun to watch when he was in the zone.
 
Greene Rice FIG said:
Eugene 15.1 42.3%
Mathis 14.6 42.7%
Baker 13.7 41.0%
Harper 11.9 52.5%
Kiss 11.8 46.0%
Caleb 11.1 52.5%
Myles 9.5 56.5%
Shaqc 8.2 54.6%

What happens to effective FG% as shot distribution changes? That is the 2nd most important thing in my eyes (defense #1)

As a whole we were 46.8%...48% is middle of the pack so we aren't far away.
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I really think this is going waaaay up this year. These guys are going to make the extra lass and move the ball like we haven’t seen in a long time
 
Baker won't have to force it this year and Mathis hopefully won't be allowed to force it. I thought Mathis had more poor decision shots than anyone else.
 
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I really think this is going waaaay up this year. These guys are going to make the extra lass and move the ball like we haven’t seen in a long time
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The thing to watch for is the relationship of eff fg% to an increase/decrease in usage on a player by player basis. Caleb and Ron probably will be headed lower assuming they are taking more shots AND Baker better be headed way higher with usage headed lower.
 
Greene Rice FIG said:
Eugene 15.1 42.3%
Mathis 14.6 42.7%
Baker 13.7 41.0%
Harper 11.9 52.5%
Kiss 11.8 46.0%
Caleb 11.1 52.5%
Myles 9.5 56.5%
Shaqc 8.2 54.6%

What happens to effective FG% as shot distribution changes? That is the 2nd most important thing in my eyes (defense #1)

As a whole we were 46.8%...48% is middle of the pack so we aren't far away.
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Throw in Yeboah's stats from last year, too. 17.4 shots, 48.8% eFG. Have to think his # of shots will come down this year, as he won't be looked at to be the bulk of the scoring at RU like he was at Stony Brook.

Young's stats from his last year at Texas were 20.4 shots, 50.0% eFG.

Both of those guys like to put the ball up.
 
RUChoppin said:
Throw in Yeboah's stats from last year, too. 17.4 shots, 48.8% eFG. Have to think his # of shots will come down this year, as he won't be looked at to be the bulk of the scoring at RU like he was at Stony Brook.

Young's stats from his last year at Texas were 20.4 shots, 50.0% eFG.

Both of those guys like to put the ball up.
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Those are shots per 40 minutes?
 
Greene Rice FIG said:
Those are shots per 40 minutes?
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Duh, sorry. Yes for Yeboah, but I accidentally grabbed the Per 100 numbers for Young (it should be 13.7).

So, throwing in the true "per 40" numbers

2018-19
Eugene 15.1 42.3% (transfer)
Mathis 14.6 42.7%
Baker 13.7 41.0%
Harper 11.9 52.5%
Kiss 11.8 46.0%
Caleb 11.1 52.5%
Myles 9.5 56.5%
Thiam 9.2 42.3% (dismissed)
Carter 8.2 54.6%
Doorson 5.8 62.5% (graduated)

2019-20
Yeboah, 17.4 48.8% (transfer)
Mathis 14.6 42.7%
Baker 13.7 41.0%
Young 13.7 50.0% (transfer)
Harper 11.9 52.5%
Kiss 11.8 46.0%
Caleb 11.1 52.5%
Myles 9.5 56.5%
Doucoure 9.5 36.2% (coming off injury)
Carter 8.2 54.6%
Mulcahy TBD (freshman)
 
Adding usage %s

2019-20
Yeboah, 17.4 48.8% (transfer)
Mathis 14.6 42.7% 23.3%
Baker 13.7 41.0% 23.1%
Young 13.7 50.0% (transfer)
Harper 11.9 52.5% 17.2%
Kiss 11.8 46.0% 16.7%
Caleb 11.1 52.5% 19.8%
Myles 9.5 56.5% 18.7%
Doucoure 9.5 36.2% (coming off injury)
Carter 8.2 54.6% 16.8%
Mulcahy TBD (freshman)

Eugene was 27% last year

In a perfect world 1 thru 4 usage are 21% each and the 5 is at 16%...or all 5 slots at 20%.....or i suppose the real perfect world is to have a guy with a 55% effective shooting rate with a usage of 30+%
 
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Player....usage...effective FG%
Baker.....21.6%........52.9%
Yeboah..23.2%........50.0%
Harper...19.5%........50.0%
Mathis....23.8%.......46.6%
Paul.......14.3%........55.0%
Myles.....18.7%........61.5%
Caleb.....13.8%........39.3%
Jacob.....25.9%........42.9%
Duke.......15.4%.......75.0%
ShaqC.....14.3%......42.9%
 
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