SJU got robbed
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I am glad to see St. John’s be on the wrong end of a referee screw job for a change. But I wish the recipient could have been anyone but Seton Hall.
The call was correct. Clock never ran..hence the play never happened.
Big break for Seton Hall but correct call.
Big break for Seton Hall but correct call.
Mullin is such a bad coach he probably didn't even realize it. But heron and ponds missed free throws at the end of the game that could have sealed it. Ponds was awful in this game
That’s not true – – the clock was changed from 3.5 seconds to 3.1 seconds for the second inbounds.
Clock went from 3.9 to 3.5, then they changed it to 3.1 The sideline official blew the whistle after the ball was tipped. The refs blew it. I think they used the clock as an excuse.
Ok..my bad then. Announcers explained that the reason SHU kept ball is clock never ran.
It was a blown call that was resolved the only way it reasonably could be.
SHU finished stronger than St John’s. It’s a solid win for them.
SHU finished stronger than St John’s. It’s a solid win for them.
SHU lost a National Championship on a bogus call so I guess this is recompense.
That’s the real story. Down by 12 and played great defense down the stretch to get back in it.
SJU took about 3 jumpers within 10 seconds of the shot clock up 8 to 10 with about 8 minutes left. I am not a proponent of milking the clock but once it got to 6 and then 4, they started milking the clock, as if they were up 10.
Mullin is horrific and his bench coaches aren't any better. That's as talented a Top 7 he will ever have, yet doesn't use his bench.
All in all, if SHU made some layups earlier in the game, it could have never come down to the end. I think these 2 might be in the Top 4 of the Big East, but i would have liked to have seen who had the arrow on the alternate possession. If you called a jump ball on the missed call and it was SJU ball, at least give them a chance to inbound the ball and let SHU foul them.
Poorly coached teams usually don't get sympathy from fans but twitter is on fire tonight with complaints about that call. Rarely do you see calls clearly change a game's result but this was as bad as I can recall with a blown call under 5 seconds.
Mullin is horrific and his bench coaches aren't any better. That's as talented a Top 7 he will ever have, yet doesn't use his bench.
All in all, if SHU made some layups earlier in the game, it could have never come down to the end. I think these 2 might be in the Top 4 of the Big East, but i would have liked to have seen who had the arrow on the alternate possession. If you called a jump ball on the missed call and it was SJU ball, at least give them a chance to inbound the ball and let SHU foul them.
Poorly coached teams usually don't get sympathy from fans but twitter is on fire tonight with complaints about that call. Rarely do you see calls clearly change a game's result but this was as bad as I can recall with a blown call under 5 seconds.
The clock doesn't start until someone touechs the ball. It started when it was deflected. The refs screwed up.
Guy made bad calls all night. Guess he evened it out.
Coming into final minute SJU is 94%from the line. They then miss the front end of two consecutive one and ones. That’s what cost them the game.
My Nova fans and friends also state that Josh Hart lost part of his limbs getting fouled at the BE tournament SHU won a couple of years ago....and yeah they're still bitter about that non-call even after winning 2 titles in 3 years.
Yeah right! Look, SJU blew the lead with the way they played the last ten minutes, no one is suggesting otherwise. But the kid made a great play on the inbounds, deflected the pass, then was able to get the ball while in the air and got it to one of his players. He made a great play to save the game and the official blew it. You got lucky. Take the win, you had a great comeback but SJU got robbed.
Im at Redds now, was at the game, atmosphere was sick tonight
Bad call by refs at the end but SHU had to hit that presser shot at da buzzer
Rutgers had more fans here thain sju btw
Bad call by refs at the end but SHU had to hit that presser shot at da buzzer
Rutgers had more fans here thain sju btw
St. John's had the arrow if a jump ball was called. This was like the game in the Olympics when the Russians got to inbound the ball 3 times in the last few seconds. SHU got a huge break. St. John's got a huge break against us in the Big East Tournament when the refs left the court and missed at least 3 fouls against the Johnnies in the last 15 seconds. The Johnnies really got shafted but they played horrible in the last 6 minutes.
Haha. Josh “hard foul” Hart? Please he reaped what he sowed over the years against the Hall
Hart also tried to step on Delgado’s head after tripping him so Nova fans can suck it.
http://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa...ado-video-big-east/1470p8lbml80y1nenw4o1kowew
And RU won two games against SHU on absolutely horrible calls that decided both games: the offensive foul on Pope at the Rock and the foul on Douby in overtime at the Rac. Care to defend those two calls?
The officials were at the scorers table for what seemed like an eternity trying to figure out what to do after seeing the replay where the one official obviously screwed up by blowing his whistle. Nice try at a cover with the clock. Having said that, Ponds was taking stupid shots down the stretch and SJU lacked the discipline necessary to salt away the victory.
The referees made the ultimate decision but St.Johns gave the game away in the last minutes of the game.They have outstanding talent but are poorly coached,Ponds had a horrendous performance but give Seton Hall full credit for hanging tough and winning the game on the last shot.
I didn’t see the game at all, so I have no idea how poorly St Johns blew it down the stretch. That being said, the refs botched this. That’s a terrible job. You can’t rationalize the decision they made. Why does Seton Hall get the ball back just because “the clock didn’t start?” SJU deflected the pass and intercepted it. That makes ZERO sense
3.9 to 3.5....the clock did move nonetheless, if the roles were reversed, i seriously doubt the comments would be the same about some of these items like creating your own luck, missed FTs etc...every team that is in a close game makes mistakes, otherwise the game wouldn't be close.
Unfortunately, this overshadows a walk-on outplaying others like Jordan Walker at PG last year in practice and earning a scholarship for this season, in Shavar Reynolds.....a player no one figured would see this many minutes in crunch time, who played plus defense.
The lesson learned or what's been known for the last 4 seasons since Mullin arrived....he's not a good coach, his staff is inept and it's very easy to create depth and roles for players 8 and 9 on the roster, with as many talented players/scorers. There's no possible way St John's will win the Big East tournament playing 7 players over 3 days.
Sju is good, but depth will be a problem. Getting keita back will help.
Do most think the ref just made the wrong call, assuming they were out of bounds? If so, isn't it best for the ref personally to have the balls to overturn his mistake. And dont the other two refs have to buy in to the decision after reviewing? So it makes little sense to make up the clock as a cover story.
But brutal call for sju, and heroic last play by Seton Hall.
Do most think the ref just made the wrong call, assuming they were out of bounds? If so, isn't it best for the ref personally to have the balls to overturn his mistake. And dont the other two refs have to buy in to the decision after reviewing? So it makes little sense to make up the clock as a cover story.
But brutal call for sju, and heroic last play by Seton Hall.
Sure we’d be pissed. But I’d hope like a significant number of SJU fans on redmen.com, we would acknowledge we gave the game away.
True. But that’s overshadowed by the fact that a blown call effected the outcome of the game.
No point crying over spilled milk though. It happens rarely, but it does happen that a blown call swings the outcome of a game. You take the W and move on. For St. John’s fans it’s harder to accept. But in the end it is what it is.
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