So how much will we have saved by going cheap on Flood?

[Bleed_Scarlet]

When all is said and done, how penny wise and pound foolish was it to keep that piece of garbage here?

F@ck you Kyle Flood and F@ck anyone who was responsible for his promotion and tenure.

 

[TMCB]

It set our program back 6 yrs and caused tons of bad press etc. tim hired him so its on him, as was rice..,... tim p does not look so good now

 

[bac2therac]

Rutgers has a history of doing this. I think signs are they have changed but this school has wasted literally millions on trying to go cheap with athletics dating back 30 years, all of these decisions led to worse decisions which blew up in their face

 

[RUJMM78]

Administering a sports department on the cheap was a necessity without financial backing but a disaster in perception,won/loss record and expanding a fan base.With Hobbs in charge things are changing in a positive manner because there is a greater attention to detail .

 

[waretown]

When all is said and done, how penny wise and pound foolish was it to keep that piece of garbage here?

F@ck you Kyle Flood and F@ck anyone who was responsible for his promotion and tenure.

No, No , F@ck you, you piece of garbage, and F@ck anyone responsible for having you

 

[rufamily]

Well we saved money on bonuses and the. Pat of going to bowl games, but we are probably going to lose that in the fines we have to pay.

 

[WhiteBus]

Well we saved money on bonuses and the. Pat of going to bowl games, but we are probably going to lose that in the fines we have to pay.

We paid millions for garbage. Not feeling so warm and fuzzy about that. Plus he left the cubbard bare so we will feel his "legacy" for at least another year of not 2.

 

[KingHigh]

He's like a stink bug.

 

[Bleed_Scarlet]

No, No , F@ck you, you piece of garbage, and F@ck anyone responsible for having you

Hi Tim

Sorry I hurt your feelings

 

[Armor and Sword]

I'm pretty sure RU saved a tad less with Flood that the 15 minutes I spent saving on car insurance with GEICO.

 

[NotInRHouse]

Flood is next to "lo barato sale caro" in the Spanish dictionary.

 

[SkilletHead2]

Yeah, but we saved that recruiting class, and that was key.

 

[rume]

Yeah, but we saved that recruiting class, and that was key.

 

[RUonBrain]

On the naughty list.

 

[PiscRuFan]

Don't forget the millions they are spending on lawyers, settlements with players(basketball), coach search committees, investigations and buyouts. We could have paid Saban yearly contract on what we didn't save long run.

Don't blow a gasket, not saying we can get Saban, just all the money spent on the side to clean up the bargains and the mess they created. Could have went to better coaching, assistant coaching, facilities.

 

[ScarletCrimson]

ugh

 

[JQRU91]

Flood turned out to be a mistake, but there's no guarantee that anyone else we would have gotten would have been successful. Even a storied program like Michigan hired a guy like Brady Hoke. Flood was our Brady Hoke with a few infractions thrown in.

 

[BoroKnight]

Would you have preferred we went into signing day without a coach? Or do you think throwing a few baubles at Mario Cristobal's wife would have changed anything?

Look, Flood was a disaster, but tapping him right then and there was not an awful idea. What SHOULD have been done was give him an interim coach label and open up a real search the following year.

Early February is NOT the time to start looking for a football coach, so I've never been a fan of the "on the cheap" reference as the No.1 reason for giving Flood the job. It fits Rutgers' MO, no doubt, but there was other considerations.

But now I never, ever will worry about keeping a recruiting class together when making such decisions. That's short-term thinking. Lesson learned.

 

[Blitz8RUCrazy]

-$5million+ was saved EASILY.

Especially if you factor in the financial cost of the media damage to the Rutgers brand and lost ticket revenue opportunity cost (also future compound ticket revenue if we had a winning team which would spawn future generations of ticket holders).

 

[brgRC90]

Tim Pernetti was lazy as all hell.

 

[LotusAggressor]

I'm pretty sure RU saved a tad less with Flood that the 15 minutes I spent saving on car insurance with GEICO.

When you're some RU fans, you rehash the Kyle Flood era endlessly on message boards. It's what you do.

 

[vkj91]

People love to blame this on money. It wasn't money....money was there. Pernetti panicked when Mario waivered. End of story.

 

[RUSK97]

Would you have preferred we went into signing day without a coach? Or do you think throwing a few baubles at Mario Cristobal's wife would have changed anything?

Look, Flood was a disaster, but tapping him right then and there was not an awful idea. What SHOULD have been done was give him an interim coach label and open up a real search the following year.

Early February is NOT the time to start looking for a football coach, so I've never been a fan of the "on the cheap" reference as the No.1 reason for giving Flood the job. It fits Rutgers' MO, no doubt, but there was other considerations.

This. Really, do you think paying 2.5 million for "Super" Mario (who got fired from FIU a year later) when we thought we were stuck in the AAC would have brought us to the promised land?

 

[bac2therac]

Would you have preferred we went into signing day without a coach? Or do you think throwing a few baubles at Mario Cristobal's wife would have changed anything?

Look, Flood was a disaster, but tapping him right then and there was not an awful idea. What SHOULD have been done was give him an interim coach label and open up a real search the following year.

Early February is NOT the time to start looking for a football coach, so I've never been a fan of the "on the cheap" reference as the No.1 reason for giving Flood the job. It fits Rutgers' MO, no doubt, but there was other considerations.

But now I never, ever will worry about keeping a recruiting class together when making such decisions. That's short-term thinking. Lesson learned.

Flood was bad as OC and rumored to be fired possibly...why would you pick the least qualified guy..panicked move by Pernetti to save a class

 

[rutgersal]

This. Really, do you think paying 2.5 million for "Super" Mario (who got fired from FIU a year later) when we thought we were stuck in the AAC would have brought us to the promised land?

Not the promised land, but we would have been competitive, at the least. He would have been able to recruit, would have had a disciplined team, and if nothing else, had a solid offensive line. He would have stocked the roster with adequate talent. a big problem we've had is that the best recruits simply did not respect Flood.

Mario with his multiple national championship rings has a lot of credibility, and thats part of the reason why he was recruiter of the year in 2015, recruiting Minkah Fitzpatrick, among others.

http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2015/02/alabamas_mario_cristobal_earns.html

Mario would have come for 2 Million. Instead, we're paying Flood to do nothing till 2018. Then think of the opportunity cost of these wasted years. I feel angry thinking about what a waste these years have been.

 

[Knight Shift]

Not the promised land, but we would have been competitive, at the least. He would have been able to recruit, would have had a disciplined team, and if nothing else, had a solid offensive line. He would have stocked the roster with adequate talent. a big problem we've had is that the best recruits simply did not respect Flood.

Mario with his multiple national championship rings has a lot of credibility, and thats part of the reason why he was recruiter of the year in 2015, recruiting Minkah Fitzpatrick, among others.

http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2015/02/alabamas_mario_cristobal_earns.html

Mario would have come for 2 Million. Instead, we're paying Flood to do nothing till 2018. Then think of the opportunity cost of these wasted years. I feel angry thinking about what a waste these years have been.

If that is not the best revisionist history story I have ever read, it has to be close. Mario got those rings AFTER he left working for Nick Saban at Alabama. I am quite sure Minkah Fitzpatrick wanted to go to the #1 football team in the country because it was Alabama, not because of Super Mario. Pretty easy to recruit when you are Alabama. Remember, Flood recruited initially, until the on field results and off field issues caused recruits to flee.

 

[cicero grimes]

This would have made a great reality show.

 

[rutgersal]

If that is not the best revisionist history story I have ever read, it has to be close. Mario got those rings AFTER he left working for Nick Saban at Alabama. I am quite sure Minkah Fitzpatrick wanted to go to the #1 football team in the country because it was Alabama, not because of Super Mario. Pretty easy to recruit when you are Alabama. Remember, Flood recruited initially, until the on field results and off field issues caused recruits to flee.

This is not true. Mario won a National Championship Ring from his playing days at Miami. Mario still had to beat out Notre Dame, Ohio State, and others for Minkah, so he gets the credit. To say its easy to recruit for Alabama is pretty silly, especially when you're going up against the best of the best. If the brand is all you need, then why did Charlie Strong struggle to recruit effectively at Texas?

Mario has always been known as a strong recruiter even while at Rutgers, and did his part to turn things around here, when it wasn't so easy to recruit for Rutgers after the Terry Shea era. The 2013 class should have been much stronger than what Flood was able to land, coming off a big east co-championship. Schiano recruited the 2012 class, and by the time he decided to leave,recruits had already made up their mind to come to Rutgers.