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Top NJ QB who was a priority-gone
Top out of state QB who was a priority-gone
3rd choice QB with NO Divison 1 offers... Do we offer him cause we are desperate to get a QB on board? Who else even wants to play QB here?

Most thought we would land JG or DH. Another great job by Flood and we get neither. Yup neither. You delusional fans who don't see this as a MAJOR issue keep staying positive about the future. Can't wait for the guys "who want to be here" plan works going against top talent in the B1G. Yes I'll continue to post and complain about this everytime we lose a top (20 priority)recruit until the problem is fixed and I don't really have much else to talk about regarding RU football until the season is here. This is now the year 3 of recruiting for the B1G and it has not shown any change. And no transfers don't count. There is plenty of time left until Feburary but what does another solid season in the B1G even get us? Winning 8 games winning a bowl game apparently isn't enough. Do we need to win 10 games for local recruits to finally stay home? We are consistently in top 3-5 of these kids schools. Why won't any top 20 recruit committ? Where's the red flag?
 
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RUchip said:
Top NJ QB who was a priority-gone
Top out of state QB who was a priority-gone
3rd choice QB with NO Divison 1 offers... Do we offer him cause we are desperate to get a QB on board? Who else even wants to play QB here?

Most thought we would land JG or DH. Another great job by Flood and we get neither. Yup neither. You delusional fans who don't see this as a MAJOR issue keep staying positive about the future. Can't wait for the guys "who want to be here" plan works going against top talent in the B1G. Yes I'll continue to post and complain about this everytime we lose a top (20 priority)recruit until the problem is fixed and I don't really have much else to talk about regarding RU football until the season is here. This is now the year 3 of recruiting for the B1G and it has not shown any change. And no transfers don't count. There is plenty of time left until Feburary but what does another solid season in the B1G even get us? Winning 8 games winning a bowl game apparently isn't enough. Do we need to win 10 games for local recruits to finally stay home? We are consistently in top 3-5 of these kids schools. Why won't any top 20 recruit committ? Where's the red flag?
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Sadly, this hits the nail on the head.
 
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RUchip said:
Top NJ QB who was a priority-gone
Top out of state QB who was a priority-gone
3rd choice QB with NO Divison 1 offers... Do we offer him cause we are desperate to get a QB on board? Who else even wants to play QB here?

Most thought we would land JG or DH. Another great job by Flood and we get neither. Yup neither. You delusional fans who don't see this as a MAJOR issue keep staying positive about the future. Can't wait for the guys "who want to be here" plan works going against top talent in the B1G. Yes I'll continue to post and complain about this everytime we lose a top (20 priority)recruit until the problem is fixed and I don't really have much else to talk about regarding RU football until the season is here. This is now the year 3 of recruiting for the B1G and it has not shown any change. And no transfers don't count. There is plenty of time left until Feburary but what does another solid season in the B1G even get us? Winning 8 games winning a bowl game apparently isn't enough. Do we need to win 10 games for local recruits to finally stay home? We are consistently in top 3-5 of these kids schools. Why won't any top 20 recruit committ? Where's the red flag?
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Who do you want to coach this team?
 
I don't get the impression hes coming here either but why not wait a few hrs until he makes it official? I don't see the point in these posts let alone another thread.
 
If our next QB commit is a kid with no offers, that will make him like almost all of our other QB commits in recent years - kids with no D1 offer maybe one low level D1 offer - and we see how those careers turned out - Shimko (a while back), Rankin, Bimonte, etc. -these are not walk-ons, but schollie kids - and often the only QB in the class. They simply lacked the skills to contribute to the program. There's no crime in bringing in a QB prospect with no offers as long as you can recruit some high quality, sought after kids at the same time. The problem is that we rarely get the latter and are too often stuck with the former, so if our starting QB isn't up to snuff or are not playing well, we have few options.

It couldn't be clearer that our high integrity and high decency HC can't recruit the QBs and others that we need to be truly competitive in the B1G. This will not change. You either can recruit or you can't. Period. Despite this, due to financial limitations, unless he has an abysmal year this year, he will be back for 2016 and more poor recruiting and mediocre play will follow.
 
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If we don't recruit this year, then when? I'm lost and I'm not confident right now. We supposedly had "momentum," but no one is committing. How have we not gotten a commitment from any Camden guys or Kelvin Harmon yet. Get it done
 
The sky is falling
The sky is falling
You are living vicariously thru 18 year old kids who just want to pick a college to enjoy for the next 4 years.
I am old enough to remember when there was no stars no announcements no school ranking all the wins//loses were made on Saturday afternoon.
Go get a life and realize it not the stars on a kids back it his the desire in his heart.................... M. Burton enough said
 
imbazza said:
The sky is falling
The sky is falling
You are living vicariously thru 18 year old kids who just want to pick a college to enjoy for the next 4 years.
I am old enough to remember when there was no stars no announcements no school ranking all the wins//loses were made on Saturday afternoon.
Go get a life and realize it not the stars on a kids back it his the desire in his heart.................... M. Burton enough said
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And that my friends is a typical post of a Kool-Aid drinker.
 
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Stars are irrelevant. It's who else offers the kid (though that often coincides with stars). Coaches jobs depend on making good recruiting decisions, so like in many areas, the market tells the story best.

For every Burton, there are 20 unrecruited kids who demonstrate at the P5 level why they were unrecruited. It is much more likely that a kid with offers from top programs turns out to be a quality player. Especially at QB. That's why the teams that consistently win are made up to a large extent of kids who had offers from multiple top programs. If going the route of "diamonds in the rough" were so effective, why doesn't OSU, Alabama, UF etc. fill their rosters with kids with no offers? Enough said.
 
Flood's recruiting is going to catch up to us. There's no getting around that. The real question is what are we going to do about it. Do we really want to win or don't we? These are questions that can't be answered by the coaching staff. And I haven't got the vibe that we're of a mind to do what needs to be done. It's entirely possible that we will never get there.
 
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RUchip said:
Top NJ QB who was a priority-gone
Top out of state QB who was a priority-gone
3rd choice QB with NO Divison 1 offers... Do we offer him cause we are desperate to get a QB on board? Who else even wants to play QB here?

Most thought we would land JG or DH. Another great job by Flood and we get neither. Yup neither. You delusional fans who don't see this as a MAJOR issue keep staying positive about the future. Can't wait for the guys "who want to be here" plan works going against top talent in the B1G. Yes I'll continue to post and complain about this everytime we lose a top (20 priority)recruit until the problem is fixed and I don't really have much else to talk about regarding RU football until the season is here. This is now the year 3 of recruiting for the B1G and it has not shown any change. And no transfers don't count. There is plenty of time left until Feburary but what does another solid season in the B1G even get us? Winning 8 games winning a bowl game apparently isn't enough. Do we need to win 10 games for local recruits to finally stay home? We are consistently in top 3-5 of these kids schools. Why won't any top 20 recruit committ? Where's the red flag?
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Most informed readers did not think we were going to get JG or DH. While I would have loved to have either one, especially Haskins, the chance they were going to commit to Rutgers was slim to none from the beginning.

The sky is not falling. Russo looks like a great QB, and I hope he commits to us soon.
 
Speaking of O-Coordinators, If you're a QB do you really want to go to a program that has had five of them in the last five years with the current one a first timer?
 
RUfan121 said:
Interview as many O-coordinators from the Big 5 conferences you can. I certainly wouldn't hire a failed position coach who cant recruit.
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The fact that you called him a failed position coach illustrates that fact that you really don't have a clue
 
Underdogs88 said:
Most informed readers did not think we were going to get JG or DH. While I would have loved to have either one, especially Haskins, the chance they were going to commit to Rutgers was slim to none from the beginning.

The sky is not falling. Russo looks like a great QB, and I hope he commits to us soon.
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Russo looks like a good QB? Says who - Why are his best other offers Monmouth and UConn. Here we go again, another QB recruit that every P5 passes on except us. This will not get it done.
 
RUfan121 said:
Interview as many O-coordinators from the Big 5 conferences you can. I certainly wouldn't hire a failed position coach who cant recruit.
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So you want to spend $4m on a guy that has never been a head coach?
 
csphi said:
The fact that you called him a failed position coach illustrates that fact that you really don't have a clue
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Yeah, why don't you tell me a little more about his offense's running prowess over the past several years and his own o-line star recruits.
 
RUfan121 said:
Yeah, why don't you tell me a little more about his offense's running prowess over the past several years and his own o-line star recruits.
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Memory Loss? Last year RU's 3 top RB's all averaged over 5 yards per carry. James averaged 5.8 YPC in 2013. Before that Jamison ran for over 1,000 yards.

Some people lol.
 
I would have liked G or H but we have two good ones in Loviano and Rettig and the pipeline has potential. None of them may have the ceiling of H but he is a unique player and everyone is after him. I am not concerned about missing on 4 and 5 stars but want a class mostly deviod of 2 stars. If we get 25 3 stars every year we will almost always have a winning record and be competitive with the top of the league. A wild guess is the likelihood a 3 star player becoming productive is twice as good as a 2 star. I know about Burton and Turay and others, but they are exceptions and we need to play the odds. If this class fills out with all 3 stars I'll be happy.
 
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Memory Loss? Last year RU's 3 top RB's all averaged over 5 yards per carry. James averaged 5.8 YPC in 2013. Before that Jamison ran for over 1,000 yards.

Some people lol.
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Ahhhh, I wasn't clear enough. Lets tabulate the stats before uncle Ralph came in and coached the team last year.
 
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Yeah, why don't you tell me a little more about his offense's running prowess over the past several years and his own o-line star recruits.
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Again, if you had any clue what you were talking about, you would know that Schiano had final call on the o line recruits.

As for his own recruits, they haven't seen the field yet due to the fact we had a very experienced o line the past few years.

This year we will see Miller and Cole and have some indication.
 
I'd like to make a bet with RUChip, RCTrooper, cRURah, and B0ski. If Haskins picks RU today, will you guys self impose a ban until the season starts? If he doesn't pick RU today, then I will do the same. Deal?
 
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Also, lose the stats against the porous WSU and Navy type defenses that your Mother could run 200 yards on in one game. Lets match him up to his own conference where he truly earns his paycheck.
 
RUfan121 said:
Ahhhh, I wasn't clear enough. Lets tabulate the stats before uncle Ralph came in and coached the team last year.
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OK so you want to pick and choose which years you want based on who the OC was? What a joke that you don't want to give him credit when things work but are more than willing to blame him when they don't.

When someone does that there's no reason to continue because you're obviously not interested in the truth, just what suits your agenda. I'm done.
 
RUfan121 said:
Also, lose the stats against the porous WSU and Navy type defenses that your Mother could run 200 yards on in one game. Lets match him up to his own conference where he truly earns his paycheck.
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Sorry but had to come back for this.

Now you not only want to pick and choose the years by OC but individual games within those years?????

What's next? Whether or not the sun was out? Time of day? Turf or natural grass?

Some people's children. Sheesh.
 
knightfan7 said:
OK so you want to pick and choose which years you want based on who the OC was? What a joke that you don't want to give him credit when things work but are more than willing to blame him when they don't.

When someone does that there's no reason to continue because you're obviously not interested in the truth, just what suits your agenda. I'm done.
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What it does bring to light is that you and a good deal of others on this board like you will be forever satisfied with mediocrity at best and refuse to accept that Flood is an awful recruiter. I'll take any coach at this point just so I don't have to hear "We're looking to be 1 and 0 this weekend."
 
I haven't seen the critics this excited since the MSU game. The Maryland and UNC games must have been real downers for you.
 
UpstreamRedTeam1 said:
I'd like to make a bet with RUChip, RCTrooper, cRURah, and B0ski. If Haskins picks RU today, will you guys self impose a ban until the season starts? If he doesn't pick RU today, then I will do the same. Deal?
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I won't ban myself but I will gladly yell that I was wrong.
 
This stuff is why this board has tanked....
Guys who said he would never come just want to bash those who thought otherwise and
revel in being correct....yee ha good for you...
Scarlet-colored glasses may not work very well but all this negative crap accomplishes what?

RU has a massive brand-building job to do....maybe with the coming $ they will be able to sell a vision and execute a growth strategy....without that it's lower middle of B1G and nothing better...
Hope they do so but if not no wrist slitting for me and I'll still go ....
 
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