Ted Field has only two offers ?
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Pretty sure Rutgers told him that he wasn't a fit. Then he "reluctantly" decommited. That ship has sailed and he has about a 0% chance to sign with RU. Hope it works out for him and congrats to him for having a couple options at a free degree.
Our previous staff decided to offer him. The current staff members decided they could do better and moved on. End of story.
Previous as in a guy on the staff who had a lot of say in who we recruited in the past but has since moved on in the past year or two.
If he's not here anymore why the reluctance to give a name? A lot of guys have "moved on" in the past 2 years.
You are making it sound like Flood isn't the final decision maker on recruits. That's disturbing.
Of course the headcoach is the final decision maker, the coach is still going to listen to his staff's recommendations.
To the point of making two decisions on one player that are 180 degrees the opposite of each other? We can at least agree that that creates a reason to wonder about how he's making his decisions on recruiting.
If a coordinator says he really wants a kid, or conversely, really thinks a certain kid is not a good fit, you do not think the HC give a lot of deference there? I will give you a clue....every HC gives a lot of deference there. Your shtick is growing really old. You talk past conversations on purpose to trigger a re-hash of the same old head coach debate. This thread is not about that.
Of course to the point of making two opposite decisions on the same kid. One coach thinks he fits, a successor coach thinks he doesn't. At the end of the day, the coordinators are responsible to run their systems. They are always going to seek the personnel to run the system they want. In addition, in this case, we learned a lot more about the kid in the meantime.
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Why does Rivals have him ranked so high both by position and state if he isn't that good?
Also, I seriously doubt Flood accepted his commitment without vetting him. Especially an OL.
Also, I seriously doubt Flood accepted his commitment without vetting him. Especially an OL.
If you really care about him you should just drop it and hope he last at WVU.
We don't need to rehash all the negative things that happen.
We don't need to rehash all the negative things that happen.
Tariq Ahmed, our former recruiting coordinator before Galiano, who is now a scout with the 49ers. I have no clue how true it is, but somehow the narrative grew that Ahmed forced Field down Flood's throat. Seemingly by the people who think Flood is useless and can't make his own decisions.
I think the much more likely scenario is that Field was offered early based on size and potential, and fast forward about a year, the staff didn't see him take the next step in his development or see the same future potential so all agreed to move on.
Holy moley you go and twist things like no other. I'm trying to hint premium info without giving everything away.
Flood has final say over everything, but like mentioned above he deferred a lot to other guys who have a big say in recruiting. Compare the current staff (coaching and non-coaching) to the current ones. There haven't been THAT many changes over the past year or two. You know, a guy whose responsibility it is to have a say in the guys we're recruiting. That guy is no longer here and the new people in place have recommended differently.
EDIT: See the above post. And I'm not criticizing any coach or staff. I'm just saying there was a difference of opinion on this player and we moved on.
Flood has final say over everything, but like mentioned above he deferred a lot to other guys who have a big say in recruiting. Compare the current staff (coaching and non-coaching) to the current ones. There haven't been THAT many changes over the past year or two. You know, a guy whose responsibility it is to have a say in the guys we're recruiting. That guy is no longer here and the new people in place have recommended differently.
EDIT: See the above post. And I'm not criticizing any coach or staff. I'm just saying there was a difference of opinion on this player and we moved on.
I guess with recruiting it is either yes or no, but it can be a very close decision and other factors may have played a place in this specific situation.
New blocking scheme? Is RU moving from man to zone? That makes a big difference. Jon Asamoah (now the RG with the Atlanta Falcons) was a good OG with the Chiefs when they ran a man blocking scheme. Andy Reid then installed a zone blocking scheme and Asamoah lost his job to journeymen and signed with the Falcons as a free agent prior to last season. Running a man blocking scheme, Asamoah was the best OL on the Falcons. This year under a new coaching staff, the Falcons are moving to a zone blocking scheme and it will be interesting to see how Asamoah adjusts the second time around.
Some guys are good in one scheme while not fitting in others. It makes no sense to recruit and sign players who do not fit in your scheme. It's a shame if that was the case with Fields because he seemed like a good kid who had a chance to be one of this board's favorite players.
A low level person just a step above GA is not going to determine who and when a player is offered. A recruiting coordinator is essentially a liaison and host to recruits. They do little to no evaluation of recruiting prospects.
Generally agree, but the recruiting coordinator did move on to a scout role for the 49ers, so obviously he has some ability to either evaluate players or convince people that he can evaluate players.
This is the biggest load of crap I have ever heard. I have played in both man and zone schemes and they are basically the same concepts to the individual player. Zone blocking is essentially a running play. Teams who run zone plays still utilize man blocking.
Even the role of scout is a low level NFL position. They have zero input on who they draft sign. They simply gather information on players that can't be gathered by coaches. Practice habits, personality, general research. I have known two NFL scouts. The one got the job because his sister married a coach. The other got it because a former high school coach went to school with a member of the front office who called in a favor.
I that he was just trying to say it in a very PC way without getting into details.
If I'm not correct, then my bad. It's just what I remember reading on premium without going into many other details of which I'm also aware of.
No worries. I believe the current explanation for the entire way the relationship broke down is not accurate. It is not my place to say more but to imply it is directly attributable to Ted's abilities is not accurate and unfairly paints him in a bad light.
Everyone can believe what they want abhout his abilities based on what they see but his abilities were not the reason the Ted and Rutgers split.
I'm not sure how us or even me beating this dead horse is helpful to Rutgers recruiting or Ted's career. it's not my place to ask but maybe we should just respect the decisions and move on.
I think an outside influence that was involved in Ted's return to his HS team and gave out info about that had a role in Field's not committing to RU more than talent evaluation by Flood or any member of his staff.
That mentor could have advised Ted he should look around more before committing to RU and RU seen an attitude change in him brought on because of that mentor's advice, which cooled RU towards Ted and Field towards RU, HAVING BOTH ru and Ted decide that the fit wasn't right for both and best both moved on.
I'm just speculating about what happened, don't have anything solid to prove my opinion is right or even suggest that it is.
That mentor could have advised Ted he should look around more before committing to RU and RU seen an attitude change in him brought on because of that mentor's advice, which cooled RU towards Ted and Field towards RU, HAVING BOTH ru and Ted decide that the fit wasn't right for both and best both moved on.
I'm just speculating about what happened, don't have anything solid to prove my opinion is right or even suggest that it is.
The official answer is that his dad felt he wasn't getting enough attention from the Rutgers' staff during a trip up to Rutgers when Rutgers' was hosting some high profile 4 and 5 star recruits.
What that was the real reason? It doesn't matter.at this point.
What that was the real reason? It doesn't matter.at this point.
In starting this thread I really wasn't interested in rehashing the various theories as to why this kid parted ways with Rutgers.
I WAS interested in the fact that Rivals currently has him listed as only having offers from U Mass and Temple.
That's not a very impressive list. That's all.
I WAS interested in the fact that Rivals currently has him listed as only having offers from U Mass and Temple.
That's not a very impressive list. That's all.
Quotes from Field from a NJ.com article back when it happen. Could be BS but that was what was written.
Nope and stop beating the dead horse. Ted is not the kind of kid that needs to be coddled.
@RUScrew85 is "inside" on this one. I will say no more than that.
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